electronic ignition

[126redbomb]

I would like to ask if anyone has bought "Fiat 126 distributor Electronic Ignition Ultra-Spark"
off ebay because I am sooo tempted!  But I don't want to pay out that sort of money and find out it doesn't work!  So I thought there must be some guinea pigs out there?

[Da Londo]

Yes, and this has been covered.... let me see..... O!....here!

http://club126uk.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6076.0

[Rusty's Uncle]

My 126 came with the Ultra-Spark already fitted and it seems to run very well on a standard engine. I have been running the 123 set upon my slightly moadified 500L for about 3 years with no problems but I just ordered an Accu-Spark set up from eBay to give it a try on the 126, I think that it was under £38 and I should be able to report back on it soon. Apart from doing away with the dreaded condensor & points they put a lighter load on your distributor . So in the long term a possible investment and hey I just bought a set of 4 spark plugs for my Seat Arosa today , £32 in Halfords. I thought it must be a mistake but found out that they are even more expensive on eBay 

[126redbomb]

Sounds good to me! Question: does it matter that mine is a zelmot for the bis (and I havn't got a clue whats on the polish aircooled), so I just drop it in and thats it, oh and use a timing light! I will wait for your report before I buy the cheaper model. Thanks all once again.

[dajwid]

Got home from 8ball, after talking to Mr Rusty, I dropped a massive hint to santa (Left it on the computer and pointed to picture)' That's what I would like !!!!! That little bit of wire with a plastic bit on the end, for £37.00

Now it looks like money went out of Paypal 

At least if I can't make it work I can blame Santa and Rusty 

[smallcox]

Hi,

Yes there have been a few fitted and no one has complained. This component just removes the dreded points and condensor. I run one now in the 126 and all I can say is it works well and my tuned engine runs 100 bhp
Just one last thing if you run a twin spark system you may need to check the timing light has a setting to allow you to time the time-ing light up.

Smallcox

[126redbomb]

Thanks folks,
Looks like Santa bumped up the price ! ! Me being tight, I think I might wait for it to drop back down in price (7 quid is 7 quid) .
Whats a twin spark   I know nothing about motors so you must be talking in a foreign language .

[DEYAN IYI]

Hi! I´m the newest AccuSpark owner I managed to catch the discount,also the good thing was the bonus free shipping even to BG. It looks great performed. On day I´ll share more impressions

[126redbomb]

Hi mate, I will get one but after crimbo. I know I shouldn't put all my hopes on this, but it would great if it works. 

[Rusty's Uncle]

I bought the AccuSpark also at the discount price  however it still beats me why it is still more expensive than most of the 4 cylinder cars. Anyway I wanted to replace the existing electronic ignition on the car as I was convinced than some twit had cut the wires too short leading to the coil being mounted directly above the exhaust.
AAAArgh    first thing I found was that the new unit had the same length wires and in the instructions it says that wires may need to be lengthened !
Second thing I found was that the existing unit was also exactly the same 
Glad I did the job though as the existing one had not been very well fitted and would have lead to problems further down the line.
The insulating block where the wires pass through had just had a chunk cut out so the wires were not restrained at all so a little tug on the ignition module wires pulled the wires indide the distributor into contact with the rotor so they would have worn through. I found a spare block and drilled out the hole to 8mms which gave a great fit when the wires & grommet were pulled through.
Before you rush into this job though make a note of the distributor body and the rotor arm positions before you remove the distributor.
to be continued .............

[Rusty's Uncle]

So I have been running the new ignition for about 2 weeks and done about 300 miles. 1st picture shows 3 of the insulator blocks along with the grommet which comes with the unit. There is the bodged one , a standard one & one  drilled out to 8mms.
2nd picture looking down into distributor , cap , rotor arm , points & backing plate removed and the unit ready to fit.
3rd picture , unit in place and I positioned the wires so they could not touch the rotor then se3cured them in place with a spot of superglue to the wires & grommet.
Then rotor arm on and cap and it's ready to go 

[126redbomb]

It looks soooo easy! Thanks for the pics Rustys Uncle.  Oh Just a thought, the two wires! Where do they go?  Not soooo easy then Mine is a zelmot.  Its a bit late to have a look now but im sure I will figure it out.

Another question: on the Bis there is a filter on top of the carb (well I think that's what it is) am I right in thinking that if this is clogged up it will effect the running ( Yes I havn't a clue).  And am I right in thinking can it be cleaned out with petrol.  Oh another thing why would it be clogged up in the first place (another silly question).
Thanks.

[Rusty's Uncle]

The distributor I just fitted is a Zelmot. The main thing is that you need to have the top location for the rotor arm as I had another distributor that did not have this. Another reason why I wanted to to do a swop was that I could see that the rotor arm had been hitting the electrodes inside the distributor cap for some reason. Turned out that the new distributor cap was a tight fit & had not been pushed home on the distriubutor body plus the holding spring clips were a little slack so nipping up the clips with pliers and making sure the cap was located properly eliminated this problem.
As for wiring it is covered in the instuctions but basicaly the red wire goes to the power feed side of the coil ( the wire from the ignition that comes out of the harness) & the black wire goes to the negative side of the coil (where the wire from coil to distributor originaly went).
A guy across the road from me fitted one of these to his Porsce and only came to me when he could not make it work. He fitted it without reading the instructions , got the polarity wrong and blew the module straight away 

[dajwid]

My brain still can't believe this will work. But Boxing day I will find out. Will it work with the distributor I have (rotorless). or will I need to raid the spare engine? If I do, I assume I need to get a coil too ((

[Pete126]

After looking at the Rusty's photos it won't work on the Bis because the Bis has two plates, the top plate moves as its connected to the vacuum advance and the bottom plate is fixed, unless they do a specific ignition module for the Bis you would spend allot of time trying to make it work properly.