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skelz

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2012, 07:05:05 AM »
Okay everything back together ! BUT I know have a consistent vibration with the engine is reved... Almost like a rumble.
My second problem is that the engine seems to be sitting low..I cant get the lower guard on without it hitting the alternator belt and the engine is very close the engine spring mounting ? any ideas ?

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2012, 10:51:18 PM »
Loosen off the gearbox rubber mounts and use a jack to lift it then retighten. That should cure the belt hitting.
The vibration could be caused by the bash plate that connects to the g/b mount hitting/rubbing on the gearbox. You'll be able to see if it is.

Lifting the position of the g/b mounts, come to think of it may cure both problems
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skelz

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2012, 07:25:42 AM »
Cheers mate, had a go at what you u suggested.. seem to help.. is there only supposed to be two rubber mounts on the GB ? eg one either side .. Anything supposed to be on the middle of the underside of the bracket.. Still feels like the engine is free to move like it did ...
How tight should the mounting spring be ?
Still rumbling !!




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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2012, 12:39:55 AM »
Yep, only two rubber mounts for the box. They mount on the side of the crossmember at approx a 45 degree angle and the bash plate bolts up to the crossmember at the bottom, no other mounts or rubbers. I've never removed the mounting spring as i've never had to take the engine out - gearboxes are a different story and to take them out i ususally remove the whole assembly, rear panel with mounting spring included - but i think the manual says what torque the spring should be.


Did the height adjustment cure the belt hitting? If it did and you still have rumbling try removing the bash plate entirely and take it for a test drive. I had rumbling in a niki once and that seemed to have cured it.

The only other thing i can think of is the mounting of the rear panel. I have seen different sized spacers between the panel and i have seen people assemble the rear panel with no spacers. The one with no spacers started making rumbling noises right on start up and was shut down straight away. I think the right amount of space is when the rear panel sits flush with the rear quarter leaving the bootlid sitting a little proud at the bottom (i think).

Those are things that i can think of that would make a rumble but as mentioned i've never taken the spring assy off so maybe check that thats all in good order before you start ripping bits off 8)

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2012, 03:55:50 AM »
thanks again I will give it a tray (removing the bash plate).. Its about 100c here today so I will wait until this evening !

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2012, 07:49:35 AM »
nah its still there !! I am starting to think its something more sinister

skelz

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2012, 11:35:51 AM »
regretting tackling this myself. Cant work out what the problem is.. once I have some spare cash I will take it down to the pros to sort out and get back on the road

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2012, 06:24:56 AM »
nah its still there !! I am starting to think its something more sinister

Hi Skelz,

I've had the same problem as you. I took my engine out to replace the clutch assembly and do some work in the gearbox. Upon re installing the engine I noticed a rumbling vibration exactly as you have described. The car drives fine but it's just a damn nuisance to me as the drive is no longer very pleasant..

I may try adding spacers to the rear cross member as well as removing the bash plate and adjusting the height of things.. will let you know if I find anything out!

Alastair

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 12:14:34 PM »
Pull the carpet up in front of the rear seats might have to under a seat belt clip bolt to gain proper access then Have a look under the rear plate of the tunnel where the gear stick rod goes througth the bulkhead there should be a rubber grommit with little metal pieces on it when this is missing you will get similar noise, you might be able to see it from the underside.


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skelz

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2012, 12:38:00 PM »
thanks guys.. I have lost a bit of interest to be honest... but this has inspired me to have another look

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2012, 10:47:02 PM »
Pull the carpet up in front of the rear seats might have to under a seat belt clip bolt to gain proper access then Have a look under the rear plate of the tunnel where the gear stick rod goes througth the bulkhead there should be a rubber grommit with little metal pieces on it when this is missing you will get similar noise, you might be able to see it from the underside.


http://www.fiat126vdlaan.nl/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=1087


I'm certain that mine has worked its way out. Looking under the car you can actually see it hanging off the switch rod. Sounds like some good advice to me :)

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Re: What to replace in an engine rebuild
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2012, 11:43:15 AM »
Okay... Update... embarrassingly.. I worked out that I had the engine mount swing all ass about.. now its all good.. off to the mechanics tomorrow to get the engine tuned and timed and I am BACK BABY