Author Topic: 58 bhp? (Read 6389 times)

126dave · « **on:** May 07, 2007, 09:47:58 AM »

i've just seen another posting about the group 2 cars,(fiat forum)claiming 58 bhp....really??....does anyone have any engine specs etc? id love to know how they get that from a 650 RELIABLY enough to sell the cars to joe public.........or are polish horses smaller than Jersey/UK ones? :smt003

the only pics ive seen are on here,and show a bike carb/engine steady and a dodgy exhaust..................perhaps less is more..... :wink:

if they really have 58bhp id like to know what spec they are running,i gues bis 13 would be interestd too

fiatfsm · « **Reply #1 on:** May 07, 2007, 09:52:25 AM »

they are built by the original rally car guys, so I guess they aint too worried about long term reliability! I wouldnt touch one, some of the welding looks a mess too.

126dave · « **Reply #2 on:** May 07, 2007, 09:59:56 AM »

its just that 58bhp is a hell of a lot........when i first heard/saw that i thought typo,but i keep seeing that figure quoted.....most peeps including me are hoping for around 40ish........M.B.G quoted me over 3k for a reliable 5000rpm all day 40bhp 652cc motor....that was with stuff like ferrari dino con rods etc,i shoulnt think the polish grp 2 has them for one minute.

id love to know more.....

126dave · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2007, 10:16:45 AM »

oh.i just looked they say 6500 rpm and 7000 rpm max top speed on standered crank,albeit modded......i guess they know what thier doing

126dave · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2007, 11:07:03 AM »

cripes,had an answer on fiat forum from polish guy,reckons that to be correct,with some better than 60bhp racing back in the 80's.........

excuse me while i go and re polish my ports etc........ :shock:

Chris Lakin · « **Reply #5 on:** May 07, 2007, 11:37:52 AM »

60bhp??

i spoke to one polish guy, he said that when he raced them the engines would only last that day, no more than 4 hours track time if youre lucky. he said.

Chris

126dave · « **Reply #6 on:** May 07, 2007, 11:46:22 AM »

thats kindoff what im getting at chris,if they are getting 58bhp i wonder how many warrenty claims they will get?

Chris Lakin · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2007, 09:17:15 PM »

a bit worrying,

would look pretty in your garage/workshop though, started up once a week

bis13 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:41:33 AM »

if thats the coup just fix nitros to your car and stock up on e bay engines!!it would probably work out cheaper. i think the 40bhp mark is the most for a good reliable car . oh dave thats only a breeda speeda on that group two!! polish racing technology!!

126dave · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2007, 10:45:34 AM »

ah the 58bhp breda speeda.......................................I WANT ONE.....

Pete126 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:17:12 PM »

Now Now Dave, what happened to keeping buzzbomb II standard

126dave · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:44:01 PM »

it is kindof............at the mo its just seats/suspension/brakes and rev counter...........but.........the engine is taking shape on the bench...... :smt077.......