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Fiat 126 Chat => Your Restorations => Topic started by: Gordan on February 04, 2008, 10:20:33 PM

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 04, 2008, 10:20:33 PM

Okay, first of all I wouldnt call this a restoration. All i did was fix or replace little parts that needed fixing/replacing. (plus any car that i was to restore would probably turn out worse than before :D )

I bought my car on 1.10.2007. It wasnt in the best of conditions so all the replacable parts had to be replaced.

First of all I gave it a good wash, and used about half a kilo of abrasive polish to fix the paint which was good, but wery sun-burnt.

The interrior was also messy so I took it all out and put the seat covers and the carpets in the washing machine.

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04652_1.jpg)

The biggest (and only :D )case of rust on the car was under the battery, so took it off (the rust not the battery :wink: ) and painted it nicely.

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04650_1.jpg)

The car had no shelf in the back so I made one, covered it in a nice red leathecloth and put in a couple of speakers (these, together with my sony radio are my pride and joy :D )

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04750_1.jpg)

The headlining was just horrible (torn and dirty, plus I saw a couple of spiders running around in there) so i ripped it out and glued a nice red carpet(simple, cheap, and good looking :wink: ) to the top.

All the exterrior plastic was repainted matt black and the wheel covers white, nice contrast.

Then I noticed the brakes were not working properly, turned up that the front right cylinder was leaking fluid so I replaced them all, and the brake shoes, and skimmed the drums a little. The main cyilinder was also replaced just in case. The brake fluid was bled out completely and replaced.

New tyres were needed so i got myself a pair of michelines for the back (145/70 13) and a pair of Klebers!!? for the front (135/70 13, these were hard to find, as the dimensions are not wery common these days)

I changed the oil but there was a constant leak so had to pour more in every now and then - only solved today:-) THX Pete.

this was pretty much all of the initial repairs needed.
I put in an interrior antena cos i didnt want to drill a hole in the car..

The other things I replaced was: fuel pipes to and from the engine and interrior heating bleed pipe plus nice seat covers.

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04753_1.jpg)

The most recent fix was the oil leak which had caused problems with the clutch, so I replaced the rear bearing seal which solved the problem.

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04762_1.jpg)

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04769_1.jpg)

Right now hes a good runner, hope he stays that way, I named him Guido.

There is more work planned:
-new headlights
-new tail lights
-new rear bumper
-new rear valance
-new rearview mirrors
-custome made seatcovers
-sun roof

My intention is not to tune up my 126 like some have done, but to make it as close as possible to the state it was in when it rolled out of the factory.

I have kept a record of all expenses so here they are (this is ofcourse in Croatia)

Car - 150â‚¬
Tyres Michelin Energy - 25â‚¬*2
Tyres Kleber - 25â‚¬*2
Brake fluid - 5â‚¬
Brake shoes - 27â‚¬
Brake cylinder - 5â‚¬*4
Main brake cylinder - 15â‚¬
Battery - 40â‚¬
Motor Oil Mobil 5l - 14â‚¬!
Fuel pipes - 6â‚¬
Fuel filter - 1â‚¬
Air filter - 5â‚¬
Spark plugs - 5â‚¬*2
Rear bearing oil seal - 5â‚¬
______________________
Insurance and registration - 350â‚¬

Cost of my car to date: 698â‚¬
Joy and pride of owning such a car: priceless :wink:

This is the continuing story of Guido the FIAT Which I wrote becouse im Bored and I love my car :wink: :wink:

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04748_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 15, 2008, 10:28:58 PM

As I said in my other post, the problem with the first gear and the oil leak returned to hont me, so i bought a new (and different) oil seal and a new driven plate for my clutch. So far it all works good but havent go the time to take it out on a longer spin ride.... (fingers crossed)
I plan to replace all the clutch parts and the bearing one by one...
New driven plate.......20â‚¬

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04789_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Paulh81 on February 15, 2008, 10:46:36 PM

ALLOYS ALLOYS ALLOYS!!!!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 16, 2008, 09:53:44 AM

I am thinking about some alloys but not just yet, i need to sort all the mechanical problems out first, and then save money for some nice ones, and then...... (i was thinking about some white ones, OZ supertourismo preferrably... just dont know if they makeem this small.... :wink: )

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 17, 2008, 11:12:50 PM

Tommorow im going to see that bis i mentioned earlier, dk much about it, just that it runs, and costs 100â‚¬, ill shoot some pics and let you know how it goes...

(im planning to strip it of anything that can be useful and then send it to the big parking lot in the sky, just dont know if I can do it to a 126 :cry: )

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Paulh81 on February 17, 2008, 11:15:31 PM

awwwwww... strip it!!!! if its 110 euros... it wont matter

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 17, 2008, 11:18:23 PM

just hoping its not sold yet, fingers crossed....

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 18, 2008, 09:15:45 PM

Grrrrr.... Damn!!!! :x :evil:

They sold it a week ago....

Just seems that anything that can go wrong, goes wrong......
Im now putting an ad in all local papers, gotta find a organ donnor.... :smt064

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 03, 2008, 09:20:57 PM

Today my bis got really hot (approx 95C*) but the radiator fan didnt start, so ive decided to replace the cooling switch, cooling fan relay and the melting fuse with new parts, im just wondering if these parts are standard issue and easy to get to or will it take some serious searching...

THX :wink:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 04, 2008, 09:11:04 PM

I have just found a 126 in the local papers for 50â‚¬ (in running order) so im planing to purchase it. now the question goes out to all forum members...

Does the aircooled gearbox fit the bis?

im gunna buy it on thursday, thats when the phone number will be public...

i mean 50â‚¬! thats CHEAP!!!

Im gonna take all the parts of the shell and than scrap it...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on March 04, 2008, 09:20:11 PM

Yes it will fit, just swap over the bellhousing :D

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 04, 2008, 09:29:19 PM

YEEEHAAAA!

thats great to know, i just compared the two from manual pics i have and they do look the same :D :D :D

a 1977 aircooled..

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_12642_1.jpg)

and the BIS

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_gb_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ChrisRLewis on March 04, 2008, 09:44:53 PM

isn't the final drive ratio different on the aircooled models?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on March 05, 2008, 09:25:25 AM

The final drive ratios are different A/c 4.875 against the bis 4.333 by fitting the aircooled box it will give you faster acceleration 0 to 60 in 4.2 secs (we Wish) :lol: :lol: :lol: but knock the top speed down little, but i doubt that it would be that noticeable.
The only other option is to swop the diffs over as the gearbox ratios are the same on all 126 boxes :)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 05, 2008, 11:18:05 AM

thats even better, i rarely get out of town with my bis so top speed shouldnt be a problem...
(come to think of it, ive never pushed it to the limit... dont have the guts to go 200km/h in it :D :D )

i dont know if im going to swap the boxes yet, dont know how good the aircooled one is, but i wouldnt buy it if the gb doesnt fit...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 07, 2008, 10:55:21 PM

I didnt buy the other 126, too messed up, only thing that could have been useful were the headlights, if they are H4, i dont know.

I had a burst of inspiration today. I think ill cover the grey dash plastic cover thingy with black leathercloth, should look smashin!

The only thing is i dont know how to remove the dash padding off, has anyone done this? The manual doesnt say anything.... :???:

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04755_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on March 08, 2008, 05:27:38 PM

I have removed mine here it is -

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/ciaoflyer/DSC_0259b.jpg)

It is hooked on at the top on both sides by these clips so you need to lift it off....

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/ciaoflyer/DSC_0261b.jpg)

At the bottom it is held in with small plastic lugs which you have to destroy to remove but local motor factors sell similar replacements!

The worst bit is where it is attached around the air blower in the middle. I just pulled mine out cos I am not putting it back but the air blower will need removing if you want to put it back! Also mine tore when I removed it, hope this helps!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 08, 2008, 05:45:17 PM

It sure does, thanx! :wink:

I just vant to cover mine and put it back, but now a new problem has risen, how do you remove the air blowers?? I tried to do it before (so i could replace em, the left one is broken) but couldnt find any screws or anything else thet holds it in place???

Cheers
G

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 08, 2008, 05:46:59 PM

By the way, nice steering wheel! :D

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on March 08, 2008, 06:35:44 PM

I don't know how to remove the blower but if you look under the bonnet I think it is bolted under there!?!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 08, 2008, 09:58:15 PM

it never accured to me to look under the bonnet :oops: , ill have a looksie tommara...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 12, 2008, 05:44:55 PM

just been out shoppin for my bis, got a new clutch plate and release bearing, and beautiful, shiny new headlights (only 5 pounds each!) :D :D

before:
(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04670_1.jpg)

after:
(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04819_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on March 12, 2008, 06:05:25 PM

I like the Polski Fiat badge!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 12, 2008, 06:25:39 PM

it is standard on all the 126 over here, you guys didnt get em?
mines in the back now, replacing the original "700" which i dont like very much and you guys dont have aswell :smt019 :wink:

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Post by: ciaoflyer on March 12, 2008, 06:43:03 PM

Don't get polski or 700, just FIAT both ends. Like to see a pic of them both!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 12, 2008, 07:50:35 PM

here are pics of all badges on my car, mos of which i belive are different from the uk model:

Front Polski FIAT (moved to the back)

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04823_1.jpg)

Rear, 700(CCs probably.. :wink: which i removed)

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04821_1.jpg)

the weel covers snd the steering wheel have FSM on them:

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04822_1.jpg)
(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04825_1.jpg)

The keys have the FSM logo on em too...

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Post by: ciaoflyer on March 12, 2008, 08:02:44 PM

WOW! Would love the 700 and the Polski, wanna sell?

We just get what is in my avatar on the front but in blue on the rear we get 126 BIS.

yours are cool!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 12, 2008, 08:24:07 PM

im not selling mine, but im going to a scrapyard tommara, ill see if i can get some, and those zastava for paul... wanna trade? i want some classic fiat for the front but its impossible to get em here... :cry:

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_slika_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on March 12, 2008, 08:51:13 PM

I have one of those from an old Fiat 500 but it's a bit knackered! Also got to try and find it as I may of lost it!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 12, 2008, 09:07:43 PM

:smt006 :smt023

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: claire on March 12, 2008, 09:31:54 PM

Quote from: "Cro_126Bis"

It sure does, thanx! :wink:

I just vant to cover mine and put it back, but now a new problem has risen, how do you remove the air blowers?? I tried to do it before (so i could replace em, the left one is broken) but couldnt find any screws or anything else thet holds it in place???

Cheers
G

I removed mine, you have to remove the plastic unit (fan etc) from under the bonnet then yhere are some tiny tucket right up the back of it (i used a screw driver to flick them off) DONT pull the blower from the front, they are really fragile and tend to crack :oops: You will also need to remove the plastic casing (?) from behind the steering wheel.

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 12, 2008, 10:19:22 PM

sounds more complicated than i thought, ill give it a go one of these days..

Thanx :wink:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 13, 2008, 05:01:32 PM

sorry guys, no luck with the badges... the man at the scrapheap told me they scrapped all the 126es a while back cos there was no interest, and he didnt get any zastavas for quite some time, he couldnt even find me some rear wiew mirrors :cry: :???:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on March 15, 2008, 03:44:38 PM

Liked the 700 so much went out today and got a chrome set will post a pic fitted! Just need a polski fiat badge for the front now!

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Post by: ciaoflyer on March 15, 2008, 04:04:32 PM

Here you go!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FIAT-500L-MODEL-FRONT-EMBLEM_W0QQitemZ190198427127QQihZ009QQcategoryZ31352QQcmdZViewItem

Thats cheap and he posts worldwide!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 15, 2008, 04:38:59 PM

cool, thx, any idea where i could get a "mustache" style badge??

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Post by: ciaoflyer on March 16, 2008, 09:37:49 PM

I think the same guy on ebay sells them? He has an ebay shop! It has finally stopped raining and I got my 700 fitted, I will post pics soon!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 16, 2008, 10:11:17 PM

no, sadly he doesnt, just a bunch of 500 under his badge section and some abarth ones... id really like to get my hands on one of those... :wink:

post pics... i just put mine back, and the polski to the fornt...? did you find the polski badge?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 15, 2008, 09:43:01 PM

Still having those first gear problems, so I decided to take him off the road for a month or so till i get a new engine from italy.
This is a good opportunity to do some of the work i had been postponing.
It has been raining here non stop now for about a month or so, and my interrior (the left side)
(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC04713_1.jpg)
was soaking wet. i opened the boot and found a lot of water just sitting there and turning my beautiful red BIS into a rust bucket. Plus there is a hole for wires that serves as a nice way for the water to get out of the boot- and into my interrior. Im waiting for it to dry, and then im gunna apply so much silicon on it that its going to reduce the bootspace by half >:)
(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_11_2.jpg)

Only prob is i HAVE NOO BLOODY IDEA where all the water is coming from. I glued that black plastic under the windscreen so its not it, and i covereed all the boot edges with some sponge... im quite confused.... :smt017

The second thing i did is take the seats appart. it turned up that most of the springs were broken, so i managed to make one like-new seat out of two... now i need to buy another one to finish this one....

The story of my car continues... andit will probably newer end... :wink:

...EVER...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on April 16, 2008, 01:36:41 PM

normally the water gets in via the top windscreen seal runs around down the sides inside the rubber and at the bottom its normally rusted and perforated where the water seeps in down the wheel well and onto your carpets. remove your carpet and get a hosepipe and run water at the top of the windscreen and see if it does leak there if it doesnt try and find where its dripping in and follow it back.

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 16, 2008, 10:12:20 PM

You know, thats not a bad idea. I just need to wait for this damn rain to pass...

During the last few moths that i have the 126 ive heard people complaining about how theyre prone to rust, and how rust protection is bad, blah blah blah... but i must say that this is really not so. I dk if they decided to make mine a special example of how the car should look like but i must say that all the weakspots on the car have been really well covered and protected. the place i vas talking about was wet every time it rained for the last 16 years, but no rust bubles were formed, inside it was also wet most of the time, but the floor is so well covered in some plasticky stuff that rust didnt have a chance. I know my car isnt that old, but my dads 1995 Golf MK.3 has more rust problems than my bis....

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on April 17, 2008, 09:42:26 AM

to be honest most cars look fine with no rust, but if you strip the paint off you would all sorts of rust in places you never thought , i did this you see on a car i thought was totally solid. have you waxoiled your car ? its a good idea to do so if you plan to keep the car for as long as you can.

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Post by: Gordan on April 17, 2008, 10:56:04 AM

I hope youre wrong about the rust part.... :)

I havent waxoiled it yet. I plan to do it before the next winter sets in, figured if it held for 17 years, itll survive a few more months...

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Post by: Gordan on April 17, 2008, 02:52:23 PM

being a rookie i would wery much appreciate it if someone would explain what is considered good waxoiling... (what needs to be done)... THX

off the topic. im planning to install side windows that can be opened. just wondering if anyone has had problems with these (i have a feeling they are prone to leaking water inside and i dont need any more of that..) plus are the seals standard off the shelf or do i need to get original. thanx again.

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Post by: bis13 on April 19, 2008, 04:11:50 PM

do you mean front (quaterlights)? or rear side openers? either way they are easy enough but if its the front why bother? most owners would prefer to put the more modern side windows in think?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 19, 2008, 10:45:59 PM

no, i was thinking about the rear side openers. my cheapskate bis doesnt have anything, no rear wipers, no fog lights, rear belts, rear glass de fogger, nothing extra...

the instalation looks simple enough, but i dont want a nother hole for rain to pour in.

i wouldnt change the front quaterlights cos its something no modern car has, and i think its quite handy during winter, lets some air in, but not too much :D

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Post by: bis13 on April 21, 2008, 11:41:03 AM

thats the difference between where you live and here, the bis came with all the bits your missing as standard spec. what you need are the windows ,openers and the different rubber seal its a dead easy job to do are there plenty of parts local to you? its a pity you are so far away as i have rear glass(heated) side windows , etc here in my garage .

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Post by: Gordan on May 12, 2008, 05:45:35 PM

Ive just done the stupidest thing possible, and created a problem where there wasnt one. I wanted to clean the water level indicator thingy behind the rear left grille, so i took it out, cleaned it and found out it didnt work at all, so i "fixed" it, and put it back in. still didnt work, so i took it out again, and the floating part (buoy or whatever you guys call it?) fell into the expansion tank.... i must be the unluckyest SOB alive :( im just hoping it will float on top of the expansion tank and wont get stuck in the pipework...
is it possible to take out the expansion tank without remowing the radiator? thanx...

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Post by: Gordan on May 12, 2008, 05:51:08 PM

Quote from: "bis13"

thats the difference between where you live and here, the bis came with all the bits your missing as standard spec. what you need are the windows ,openers and the different rubber seal its a dead easy job to do are there plenty of parts local to you? its a pity you are so far away as i have rear glass(heated) side windows , etc here in my garage .

i just red this post... didnt see it before...

i want to install all the extras you guys have... especially those side windows... 126 parts are getting more and more difficult to find, for example i searched my whole city and couldnt find a relay for the wipers...
im planning a trip to italy this or next week, i found a bis on a scrapheap, which should have all the bist I need...

oh, and i wonder if the rear wipers would be easy to install? are the wires there or do i need those aswell?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 13, 2008, 09:28:14 PM

I just bought a aircooled 126 box for my bis. Ill be replacing the bellhousings and replacing the oil. Soon we shall have an answer to that long lasting question :"does the airc. box really fit a BIS?"..

I just need a little help from you guys: how much gearb. oil goes into the box? thanx...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on May 13, 2008, 10:27:04 PM

Hi Gordan, on level ground just take the top plug out and fill it till it starts to run out, then put the plug back in. :)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 14, 2008, 08:27:46 AM

Oooh, simple as that eh? thanx pete... :wink:

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Post by: Gordan on May 14, 2008, 08:41:20 PM

Well, i believe ive done it! The aircooled box fitted just ok on my bis. the only difference between the two is that the airc. box uses a different support system (it has 2 holes, whilst the bis support crossmember has 4 bolts..) and the rewerse light switch is somewhat different. Ive combined the two to make one that apparantly works. I used the driveshafts and diff from my bis as they were in much better condition, and i used the bis bellhousing.. this was the first time i could start up on a hil without holding my stick and praying it wont shake too much!!!! :D :D
Total money spent 32 pounds... :wink:

P.s. the new box i fitted also has freeplay on the input shaft so i actually dont understand what the problem was, but at this point i dont want to know, im just happy it works... :shock:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on May 14, 2008, 09:06:58 PM

They all do, well done :smt041 Enjoy :smt098

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Post by: Gordan on May 14, 2008, 10:49:19 PM

Just been browsing my manual, and i found out that my bis is missing a piece for the engine... a water duct guard or somethin like that... do you guys have it, is it crucial, the previous owners must have lost it :???:

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_water_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on May 14, 2008, 11:06:27 PM

Yes mine has got one on, the cowling protects the radiator and water pipes from stones that might be thrown up by the rear wheels.

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Post by: stuey on May 14, 2008, 11:13:50 PM

I think it directs some airflow its sort of tinware too>?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on May 15, 2008, 07:06:58 AM

Yes I think air too, when my Rads fan is spinning air departs by the rear near side wheel.

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 15, 2008, 11:21:11 AM

I wasnt thinking about the outlet that holds the rad. This one lies under the engine, and as pete said, probably just serves as a pipe protection...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_559_water_1_1.jpg)

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Post by: Gordan on May 21, 2008, 01:56:54 PM

Just bought a new fuelpump for my bis, the old one failed yesterday whan it got hot, so i bought this one for 13pounds :wink:

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05034_1.jpg)

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Post by: Gordan on June 03, 2008, 02:00:42 PM

Just bought new rearview mirrors, 10 pounds, the old ones were not orig, and they kept falling down all the tima, theese ones are for a Yugo, but fit perfectly....

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05064_1.jpg)

p.s. Where is everyone, wery few posts theese last few days, i bet youre tuning your 126 and not sharing it!!! noughty, noughty.... :D

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Post by: Pete126 on June 04, 2008, 11:41:32 PM

They look better than the std 126 mirrors Gordan. :smt023 :D

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Post by: Gordan on June 05, 2008, 08:58:44 AM

well yea, kinda, but i wanted all orig parts, just couldnt find em...

the main thing is they dont fall down, so i see a little more than the road underneath me with em :D

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 11, 2008, 12:20:30 PM

Im going to have my carb restored or overhauled or whatever its called cos my consumption is about 10l per 100km... the thing is it costs 50 pounds to have it done which is alot having in mind my small budget, so i was wandering has anyone had this done, and is it worth the money, in other words, will it lover consumption?

Thanx, gordan

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Post by: Gordan on June 12, 2008, 02:14:19 PM

Just been to the carb shop, and the guy there told me that he couldnt fix it cos the choke pull lever is missing (thet little plastic broke and it fell off) but he told me that a Citreoen 1,4 or 1,3 BX (cant remember which) carb fits perfectly in, and he assured me that it would last longer than the car itself. Now i gotta find one of those, and have an idea where to get it :D :D

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Post by: Gordan on June 16, 2008, 11:49:17 AM

Guys, ive got a really straight foreward question for ya, will 165/65 r13 alloys fit my bis without any alterations, i found 5 of them for really cheap, but i dont want em if they dont fit...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 16, 2008, 01:38:06 PM

Heres the wheel i might buy, gimme your opinion please, it looks kinda old to me...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC00710_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on June 19, 2008, 08:51:51 PM

Hi Gordan,

The biggest tyre you can fit without fowling the wheel arch is 165x55x13. i have just changed mine as the 165x60x13 scrape on the inner front wheel arch on full lock, but that has solved the problem :D :D :D

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 19, 2008, 10:29:45 PM

okay, thanx pete, tahat is one valuable piece of info, now just need to find alus that small... : (

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on June 20, 2008, 01:05:27 PM

i would suspect these wheels are 5j you'd just need to change the tyres on those and they be fine, paint the centres polish the lip= winnah!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 20, 2008, 03:32:24 PM

Sorry for being such a rookie, but what does "5j" mean? :roll:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on June 20, 2008, 07:01:00 PM

5 inches wide... :wink:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on June 20, 2008, 07:04:45 PM

5J is the width of your wheel, too wide and it won't fit, heres an alloy wheel guide

http://www.alloyguide.co.uk/pcd.php

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on June 20, 2008, 07:12:36 PM

lol- the "wrong" pic on this site looks all too familiar :oops: -

(http://www.alloyguide.co.uk/images/7.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 20, 2008, 07:35:46 PM

Ciao that is a really useful guide, i must say i had wery little knowledge about tyres, but no more : )

"lol- the "wrong" pic looks on this site all too familiar"

:D :D :smt003 :smt037 [/quote]

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on June 21, 2008, 09:04:22 AM

It is good, I found it on the net when I was trying to fit alloys to mine!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 21, 2008, 01:19:12 PM

I gave up on alloys for now, all my tyres are brand new, and unless i find the same size wheels, im gunna stick with these untill they wear out. plus my white wheelcovers match the car nicely, and it will be hard finding white wheels... which reminds me, can alloy wheels be resprayed? whats the procedure?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on June 21, 2008, 04:25:37 PM

they can be but its better to have the blasted and powder coated costs about Â£20-25 a rim (it does mean you can buy dirty scabby wheels no one else wants as powdercoating brings them up like new!!!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on June 21, 2008, 07:09:20 PM

o r depending on the alloys and your prepwork use some hammerite smooth it does a very good job thats a sight less cheaper and keeps you fully hansd on with your resto/cutomising

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 30, 2008, 09:20:38 AM

well, it just wouldnt be fun without problems... now my box is leaking oil....
:???:
its leaking where the rubber seals hold to the drive shafts... just dont understand why, since they didnt leak before the box swap... the question is will it stop if i replace just the rubber seals?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 30, 2008, 01:15:29 PM

ok, found those rubber seals, 2.8pounds each :D so im gunna replacem.. should stop the oil from leaking out (im not in a hurry though, cos i poured in 2 liter of box oil, and the specs recomend 1.1 liter... lol :cool: )

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: phreak97 on July 27, 2008, 04:35:33 PM

i thought it was bad to overfill a gearbox?
just undo the level plug on the side and itll drain back down to where it should be (with your car on a level surface). it's a half inch square, stick a half inch socket extension on it then use a half inch spanner to turn the end of the extension.
that's probably why it's leaking too.. the level is between the bottom of the rubber and the drive shaft, if you fill it right up to the drive shaft then itll leak out between the shaft and the rubber.

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on July 27, 2008, 04:48:36 PM

the leak is sorted, replaced the rubber seals (wery cheap :D ) and the leaking stopped :D :D
i returned about 1,5 liters, which is 0,4 liters above spec standards, so far its working ok, so ill just leave it be. Gearboxes are really cheap here, so i can always replace it if i scrâ‚¬w something up.... :lol: :lol:

p.s. the airc. box i fitted is even better than the bis model, i can drive in third now up rather steep hills, which was inpossible with the orig box si id actually recommend this swap to anyone living in a hilly area :cool:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: phreak97 on July 27, 2008, 04:58:48 PM

mine already has an aircooled box, cos it's aircooled:P
is the watercooled engine much more powerful? what size is it?

by the way cro, i added you to my msn list. dunno if you use it or not though..

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on July 27, 2008, 05:10:03 PM

dk if its much more powerful, newer ridden an aircooled, it has 26hp, over the aircooleds 23hp, i beat local aircooleds easilly when racing :D :D (at ludacris speeds of 60-70kmh :lol: )... it has 703cc of pure musclepower :D .
i dont use msn, newer got around to installing it, but i use facebook, Gordan Josić is the name :wink:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on August 05, 2008, 08:01:08 PM

Hi Gordan, if there just discoloured you can spray them with satin black until you find a pair of good original door cards :D

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/169_P1000750_2.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on August 05, 2008, 08:36:11 PM

You know, i thought about it, but it isnt that theyre dirty, its that they somehow shrank, and keep poping out of those brackets in the doors, its kinda ugly.... :???: so im trying to locate nice vynil ones, since im trying to make it look more retro... :D

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: dajwid on August 05, 2008, 08:58:45 PM

http://allegro.pl/item411828076_tapicerka_lewy_bok_fiat_126p_nowa.html

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on August 06, 2008, 07:21:56 AM

Dont understand a thing on that site... :cry:
well except "lewy bok".... :D (what about desny bok" :P

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: dajwid on August 06, 2008, 04:14:08 PM

Sorry. it's a brand new drivers side door panel cost:- about Â£5

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Darrell on August 08, 2008, 01:00:07 PM

Check the rod length and the spacer on your fuel pump.
Mine kept stopping when it got hot and it turned out to be nothing wrong with the pump, the rod somehow stops pushing the pump when it gets hot.

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on August 08, 2008, 01:31:19 PM

i replaced the pump, and it solved the problem. it wasnt all that expensive so im happy with knowing it wont fail again... :D

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on September 03, 2008, 04:25:50 PM

Next week i plan to do some waxoyling on my car, i plan to clean, paint (hammerite) and protect the whole underside of my bis. so i was just wondering are there any really weak spots that i should pay special attention to, or is it just a simple job of brushing as much of that stuff as possible on the car? thanx. ;)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: dajwid on September 03, 2008, 09:58:06 PM

Inner wings, around the mounts. Under all of the front mainly where the spare wheel sits and battery sits. Inside the bottom of the doors. the sills.....................................................

Oh my god it looks like the whole car :lol:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on September 04, 2008, 12:06:05 AM

and dont forget to use eye protection hammerite in the eyes is most unpleasent I know!!!!

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on September 04, 2008, 07:38:25 AM

Quote from: "dajwid"

Oh my god it looks like the whole car :lol:

Certanly does... :shock: :D

Cheers guys, i have a military gas mask for spraying s i should be fine... :smt004

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on September 16, 2008, 06:56:24 PM

Just installed a remote controlled central locking system on my Bis, must say its a great feeling to be able to lock your car from a distance.... :D :D
The whole kit costed me some 30pounds and about 4hours of work...
(will post pics soon :wink: )

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on September 18, 2008, 05:18:04 PM

well about that central lock... here it is... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCaNsNdyp-0

the whole kit (2 remotes, 4 el motors, central unit and some screws and bolts.... need only 2 motors so got 2 spares :) )

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05348_1.jpg)

the drivers side door fitted with the main motor, which controls the others...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05356_1.jpg)

the little plug in the front boot served es an entrance point for the wires...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05354_1.jpg)

other than that i just wired the thing up to the battery and grounded it....

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05353_1.jpg)

the indicators arent connected so they flash when the lock is operated but i intend to wire them up somehow...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: dajwid on September 18, 2008, 08:44:43 PM

The 2 sparesare for the bonnet and boot :-)
Loose those locks :shock:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on September 19, 2008, 06:08:49 AM

Quote from: "dajwid"

The 2 sparesare for the bonnet and boot :-)
Loose those locks :shock:

the remotes have only 2 buttons so if i put one on the bonnet it would open ewery time i unlocked the car, dont want that....
the rear lock is different than the rest, the whole cylinder rotates when unlocked so its impossible to use this system to unlock it....

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 04, 2008, 09:12:51 AM

Just found myself 4 nice cheap alloys for my bis. They are original Koral's for a Yugo, and fit straight on. The man told me to pay him what i want, he just wants to get rid of em cos they are collecting dust in the garage. I plan to re spray them in white and put the lowest possible profile tires on em...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_31a5d38f02_1.jpg)

here they are in white on a red Yugo... looks nice...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_y1_1.jpg)

okay, they're not oz superturismos or something like that, but for 30pounds they look decent... (i found 4 cromodoras in Croatia, nicely repaired with tires and all, but they costed 300pounds, which is three times the worth of my car...) :???:

gimme your opinions please... :wink:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on October 04, 2008, 08:47:44 PM

have you a rear wiper still? if you havent you can use the wiring for that to open your boot its what I did with one of my spare solenoids...

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 04, 2008, 09:53:26 PM

no mate, dont have the rear wiper, my cheap eastern-european-people-dont-need-them version 126 never had em... :???: plus i dont want my doors to pop up any more, im just happy with remote locking/unlocking. Currently trying to connect the signal lights to the lock system so it blinks when i operate it... :cool:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 05, 2008, 05:56:29 PM

Well here they finaly are, my wery first set of alloy wheels, not in a brand new condition but after some work they end up looking something like this...
:D :D

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_golf_gti63B8F_1.jpg)

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05380_450x337_1.jpg)

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05381_450x337_1.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 08, 2008, 03:43:55 PM

Here are my new alloys fitted...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05386_450x3371_1.jpg)

and this is what theyll look like when resprayed, well that, plus lower/wider tires, plus yellow brake drums...

(http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/userpix/559_DSC05386_450x337_1.jpg)

And a bigger one...

(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3949/dsc05391mo9.th.jpg) (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05391mo9.jpg)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 27, 2008, 03:44:03 PM

Ok, guys i need some help...

i took my instrument pannel out yesterday, replaced the bulbs, and now my speedometer isnt working????!! ive tried to reconnect the cable a dozen times, but nothing, it starts moving sometimes and then just drops? the cable from the box is spinning, and the mileage counter is working, but no speed readouts?? i thought it would be a simple re-connect procedure, but apperently there is a catch?? please help!! :shock:

Gordan... :wink:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on October 27, 2008, 06:47:18 PM

Are you sure the cable really is connected to where it's supposed to be, i.e. you might've just connected the outer part of the cable, but the inside of it might've slipped in.
If the odometer is working, then it could just be the speedo needle playing up.
Also is the cable free, so no twists or sharp bends.
Does the cable spin freely?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 27, 2008, 08:45:07 PM

Thanx for your reply.
Ive been playing with it for a few hours and the only idea i got is that i pulled the cable out of the gearbox? the cable is spinning freely, the speedo works (put a screwdriver in it and spun it, works ok...) and i connected it fine... so ill see tommora what it looks like under the car and let you know...

cheers :wink:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 28, 2008, 01:46:45 PM

Ive managed to solve this problem. I really did pull the cable out of the box, so all that was needed to fix it was to get into a puddle of water, in pouring rain, and re-attach it... no sacrifice is too great... :D

on the other hand i replaced the bulbs in the instrument panel with new stronger ones, so now it shines like crazy... didn't know that bulbs could fade over time?

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on October 28, 2008, 05:29:40 PM

That's good news. Usually if something works, then comes to an abrupt halt then it's nothing major. If something plays up over time and then goes dead then you know you're in trouble :)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 28, 2008, 05:54:16 PM

Yeah, i know what you mean... my g.box is acting funny, and i think its just a matter of time.... :shock:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on October 28, 2008, 05:58:31 PM

A lot of whining coming in 4th gear...., or crunching when changing into second :)

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 28, 2008, 07:08:32 PM

no actually, the reverse is acting up, when i move slowly backwards and in reverese (clutch down or not) the rear wheels block?? so i put into reverse, get some rear speed and then get it out of gear and manuver with the speed i got... strange no? luckily, i got another box, so just waiting for the weather to clear.... :D

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: phreak97 on October 29, 2008, 11:21:03 AM

replace it now, this happened to me too, a few times reversing out of my driveway the wheels locked and just about broke my neck.
swap it now and save yourself a housing. when your box finally fails itll either stick a shaft out the front like mine did or crack the side/bottom open (if the crown wheel bolts are coming out like mine did at a different time).

when the wheels lock, it's actually the box, not the wheels, and the gears running first/reverse are on a shaft which seems to be held in by friction, the car's momentum (along with the gear teeth being cut at an angle) is enough to throw it through the front casing if it's locking in the right place.

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on October 29, 2008, 04:50:41 PM

Yeah, i will, just waiting the weather to clear.... damn rain... :evil:

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on November 14, 2008, 08:18:11 PM

Had my baby MOTd yesterday, she flew thru the exam, all the mechanics gathered round my car and stared, i was quite embarrassed. :oops: :oops:

The good thing is i have a whole nother year of fun with this little buzzard :D
Plans are: Alloys, xenon kit, clear glass front and back lights, new interriour (carpets, seat covers, everything) protecting the underside of the car and the ever lasting struggle to keep it in driving condition... :P :P

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on November 14, 2008, 08:38:49 PM

good on you !!! keep your car in good order and it will always pass.

Title: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on November 14, 2008, 09:49:26 PM

Thanx mick, i see yours is on the road too, how about some pics, i dont think ive seen your black menace :lol:

Well there was a tiny wee problem on the exam, the eco test wasnt perfect, but who cares about the environment right... :D

I still need to get my carb sorted, which will be done in a a month or so...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 05, 2008, 07:58:30 PM

Well my second g.box gave in yesterday, so the engine is out again, will be replacing the box, putting the old diff with drive shafts (still perfect condition :D) and replacing the oil. then putting it all back together. it has been raining all day today, so ive cleaned the engine with something called "Supermafrasol", some sort of chemical and the engine looks as good as new. will take pics once all the pieces are back on. oh and ive cleaned the oil filter, just becouse i could... ;D ;D

p.s. upon removing the carb cap i found that the carb is FULL of oil. it was not so the last time i checked, and its got me thinking. I think all the oil is coming from the sump air outlet thingy, as the air filter is oil - dirty too. once the engine is back in, ill just divert the pipe downwards to the ground, im not a member of greenpeace, so its not bothering me one bit ;D ;D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on December 05, 2008, 09:56:53 PM

Hi Gordan check the filler cap :)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/pedro126/oilfillercap.jpg)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 05, 2008, 10:15:35 PM

Hey Pete, yes ive just checked the cap but the plastic is still there, pushed by a weak spring, perhaps a stronger spring would fix it? I guess my compression is kinda messed up so its pushing more air and oil than it usually should? :-\

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on December 05, 2008, 10:32:29 PM

Yes it looks like you've got a little bit of blow back past the piston rings thats pressurizing the sump, you could make your own oil catch container just cut two holes into a plastic jar one for the breather pipe and the other as a breather, if you put something like cotton wool into the bottom this will absorb the oil, you should be able to mount it somewhere on the back panel then you won't get into trouble for leaking oil on the drive ;D ;D don't forget to empty it tho.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 05, 2008, 11:16:49 PM

good idea, ill try to make something like that... tho my drive is gravel, and all the oil dissapears soon :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on December 13, 2008, 04:52:42 PM

Sorry to here about the gearbox, axel gerst do a repair kit for 1st/rev gear ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 13, 2008, 05:18:52 PM

even if i had the repair kit, and with the manual, there's no vay id fix it, and the service people here cost A LOT... :-\ it only leaves me with 1 option - Italy, im going there on Monday, they have quite a few junkyards, with many many fiats... hope there's a 126 in there some where :)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Paulh81 on December 13, 2008, 05:26:30 PM

Italy? that sounds like a good road trip 8)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on December 13, 2008, 06:00:28 PM

There are quite a lot of 126s here as well, so finding a complete used gearbox wouldn't be that hard. The last i saw, it cost something like 15000 HUF (approx. 57EUR, 50 GBP, 407 HRK). Sure, it's not that cheap, but try and get a repair manual, and why not give it a go?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on December 13, 2008, 06:37:24 PM

Take your camera and post some pics of your road trip ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 13, 2008, 08:04:22 PM

im not going in my 126 so its not really an adventre... my dads golf is sooo booring, and trieste isnt really that far, about hour and a half driving. finding a used box here used to be really easy, i paid my last one about 30â‚¬, which is really cheap, im willing to give 100â‚¬ now, but cant find a single one... :'(

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on December 13, 2008, 09:53:30 PM

There maybe some interesting cars in the scrapyard :) I nether go on a trip without a camera ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Paulh81 on December 13, 2008, 10:10:46 PM

Grab me some front shocks while your there.. lol, yeah take some pics...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 14, 2008, 06:08:42 AM

ill see if theres anything interesting, but id be perfectly happy with just a gearbox and a pile of nothing :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 17, 2008, 06:46:02 PM

Well ive been quite busy today, working on my BIS. Since the box is dead i took it out. As the engine was out i decided to clean all the yuck that has accumulated over the years and got this... 8)
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6655/dsc05425dk6.th.jpg) (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05425dk6.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6484/dsc05429ry7.th.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05429ry7.jpg)

then i tried to make one good box out of two broken ones (they had different problems) but after a few lagers i ended up with this... :P :P

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/562/dsc05433up3.th.jpg) (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05433up3.jpg)

then i continued work on my alloys, and now theyre ready for their white paint...

(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1033/dsc05432kk6.th.jpg) (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05432kk6.jpg)

Well so far so good, witing for my local ad papers to come out and see if someone will call offering a box, if not, ill buy a hole damn spare car...

My current short term plans are: -get the carb sorted
-tyres for the alloys
-electrical windows
-seat heater/ massager 8)
-subwoofer wit amp. :P
-xenon lights

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 17, 2008, 06:50:41 PM

just wondering by the way, what do you guys call this beautiful tool :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on December 17, 2008, 07:00:18 PM

that my friend is a ratchet!! your english is excellent so tell us what it is in croatian just in case!! [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 17, 2008, 07:22:04 PM

yes a ratchet, love it.. :oops: :D

we call it a "gedora" but i have a feeling its a german word...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on December 17, 2008, 08:35:58 PM

"OMG" I think I would struggle with those two gearboxes Gordon, Hope you remember where everything goes ;D

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/pedro126/dsc05433up3.jpg)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 17, 2008, 08:48:47 PM

o i know where it all is going, its going to the bin, thats where its going :D :P ;D
i took off all the things that ill need in case i buy a aircooled box, this is all a pile of junk.

p.s. ive noticed that im missing several teeth on my differential, what could have caused this??

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: nrg19uk on December 17, 2008, 09:32:29 PM

Quote from: Pete126 on December 05, 2008, 10:32:29 PM

Yes it looks like you've got a little bit of blow back past the piston rings thats pressurizing the sump, you could make your own oil catch container just cut two holes into a plastic jar one for the breather pipe and the other as a breather, if you put something like cotton wool into the bottom this will absorb the oil, you should be able to mount it somewhere on the back panel then you won't get into trouble for leaking oil on the drive ;D ;D don't forget to empty it tho.

these catch tanks are cheap enougth and they look the part aswell

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-JDM-Style-OIL-CATCH-TANK-Special-Price_W0QQitemZ300281385815QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item300281385815&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1299%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-JDM-Style-OIL-CATCH-TANK-Special-Price_W0QQitemZ300281385815QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item300281385815&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1299%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on December 18, 2008, 08:49:24 AM

if you,ve lost teeth in your diff it might suggest that it has been taken apart and rebuilt but has had not had the backlash adjusted and thus has weakened the teeth then they smash/fall off , when the car is put into a lower gear at speed . or loike us they lose teeth with age !!!!! lol

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 18, 2008, 11:23:31 AM

all that was done to the box is that the bell housing and the diffs were swapped from my bis box. and the diff was perfect when i put it in. the old diff also had a few lost teeth? could anything in the process have caused this, and what can i do to stop it from happening again?

Thanx for your reply. ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on December 18, 2008, 06:36:36 PM

I reckon its all those burnouts and the race starts that you have been doing xmas2 xmas2 xmas2 Sorry thats not much help ;D

But seriously Have you check if there is any play in the output roller bearings that supports the differential in the casing.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 19, 2008, 05:07:31 AM

yeah, no 402 m runs for me... :P i think that the roller bearings are/were tight enough, if im not mistaken it says in the manual that it should be set up by feeling, and i dont have any special equipment, i dont even have a torque wrench :oops: :oops: so i just tightened it till it was tight enough, but not too tight... :D :D
thing is that in my orig box, the diif was perfect, and then i put it into a box which messed up one diff, and it messed up the second aswell. ???
hope ill have more luck third time round :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Darrell on December 19, 2008, 09:38:49 AM

I'd hang on to those bits of gearboxes because 126's can break any bit in a gearbox without warning. ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 19, 2008, 02:01:45 PM

Yeah good tip, the original box looks almost perfect on the inside, all the parts are like new, but for some reason the car shakes in first and then pops out... still a great mistery :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on December 19, 2008, 02:30:00 PM

If you change a diff, then you have to use the same crown wheel and pinion, that is they are 'machined' together if you like, i.e. you can't just use a crown wheel from one 'box in another one, the partner pinion has to be changed as well. Goes for buying new diffs: they come together, and are marked together as well. One reason why it may be 'popping' out of first, is that there are little ball bearing like parts (don't kow the name of them) that a spring keeps in place, so when you change gear, it doesn't let the fork shaft pop out of gear. If they wear away, or the spring is broken, then the gear stick pops out of gear when torque 'goes through' the shafts in the 'box. Hope you can understand all of this :)
Also when changing a clutch, or just taking the 'box off for some reason, check to see of there's any grease where the 'box's input shaft goes into the flywheel. When changing a clutch, it's important to have it aligned properly, so that the input shaft fits into it properly.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 19, 2008, 03:08:57 PM

only thing i didnt understand is "crown wheel and pinion" could you explain this in simpler terms? or a pic maybe :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on December 19, 2008, 04:53:13 PM

Let's see... the big cog wheel and the 'cone' cog wheel. Also, when assembled, the distance between the cog teeth is important too. Too large, and the teeth don't interlock enough (i.e. it makes a loud whining sound, and teeth can break off), too close and the whole diff may jam.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 19, 2008, 05:11:13 PM

o so thats where i scr**ed things up, i just replaced this whole assembly... thank you for the info ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Rusty's Uncle on December 19, 2008, 05:24:21 PM

Darrell is so right about those bits . Only chuck the bits that are worn or damaged. I blamed my son for wrecking 4 gearboxes but when I got to strip them down different components had broken in each one so with the aid of a Haynes manual and a bit of selective mix & match I got two realy nice boxes up and running. [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 19, 2008, 05:40:13 PM

Let us not forget that this is my first car, and have no gearbox dissasembling - assemblig knowledge whatsoever :oops: :oops:

but i will store them just in case, who knows when they might come in handy, and its always good to have spares :)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on December 19, 2008, 06:58:23 PM

I don't know, but i wouldn't jump into repairing a diff without proper measuring equipment. It's also important to know the parameters (tolerences etc.). As i mentioned, if either the crown wheel or the pinion is worn, then you have to buy a new pair.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 19, 2008, 07:46:38 PM

all im going to do once i get another box is swap the bellhousings if needed, and thats it, any diff i get is going to be better than the one i have, i hope :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 27, 2008, 09:14:08 PM

Well the rear lights are here, and ive installed the left one (the right one is just the lens, but with some modifying should work ;) ) heres a pic

ive found that people mostly lovem or hatem, but since theyre so rare and different im gunna keepem (plus i lovem :D )

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: GTMaster on December 28, 2008, 09:40:36 AM

Those lights do look cool. But how do you manage to get the reverse light bulb in there?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on December 28, 2008, 12:34:45 PM

it has a special metal piece that holds itself to the lens, and a jack which i will just plug into the existing one... just dont know if i want 4 reverse lights or just the 2... :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 02, 2009, 06:53:27 PM

Wuuhu... heres the new gasket... next a torque wrench and were off!!! :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 12, 2009, 03:18:39 PM

Heres a nice one... 8)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Paulh81 on January 16, 2009, 04:45:52 PM

glad to here you on the road again, hope i will be shortly

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 16, 2009, 05:46:16 PM

Thanx mate, hope you will too... [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 22, 2009, 07:47:55 PM

Well here are my like new old rims, plus my new transparent indicators... 8) 8)

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2060/dsc05504vo1.th.jpg) (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05504vo1.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3667/dsc05505ow6.th.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05505ow6.jpg)(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9332/dsc05506ie7.th.jpg) (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05506ie7.jpg)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on January 22, 2009, 07:50:41 PM

Mmmm, very nice wheels!

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 22, 2009, 08:09:58 PM

:D Yugo baby :D :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Paulh81 on January 22, 2009, 08:51:07 PM

sweet, i had the clear indicators on my old 126, i also got the back clear ones, just wait.. i need to post some good pics of mine now!

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: nathan126 on January 22, 2009, 09:21:21 PM

I think they look great [-/
retro, but in my opinion kinda modern with the new badges!
nice one

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 22, 2009, 09:29:50 PM

Thx guys. Im working on having a set of clear backlights delivered from Serbia. I found a bloke who has ALL bis parts, cheap, and delivery is cheap too, in the ex-yugo region.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 23, 2009, 05:30:36 PM

Well here they are, 4 brand new 155/65/13 Sava (Goodyear under licence) tires, on my lovely White wheels.

(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4905/dsc05511wh2.th.jpg) (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05511wh2.jpg) (http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9822/dsc05510yq6.th.jpg) (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05510yq6.jpg) (http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6091/dsc05513mm9.th.jpg) (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05513mm9.jpg)

off topic - ive seen 6 (SIX!!) 126es in town today, i haven't seen so many in one day since the early 90s. lets just say there was a lot of honking and waving involved :D :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on January 23, 2009, 05:35:12 PM

beware communism might be coming back!! lol it must be fun having other 126s around! the wheels look pukka by the way!! good work fella!! but this tips the balance now as this is a non electric modification... [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 23, 2009, 06:16:24 PM

Yeah, beware of the commis :P
Dont worry, the electronics are getting reinforcements, next stop - el windows 8) :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 23, 2009, 06:27:34 PM

And im working on getting these as well, BLING BLING 8) 8)

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3171/farex1jx2.jpg)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on January 23, 2009, 06:29:56 PM

what the electric light? lol... very nice actually

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 23, 2009, 08:53:22 PM

lol these are clear glass, but i cant get them here, so need to get them shipped from serbia (the lights are for a yugo) and this is a pain in the a**e :oops:
and they may be cr*p, as i read on a "Yugo fan club" forum, some people claim it disperses light all about, while some claim they are better than stock. but they look cool so ill try to get them [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on January 24, 2009, 01:51:27 AM

yes i know... clear light syndrome.... i had this when i had a golf..... dont worry it passes with time. and they are crap with regards to the beam!!!

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 24, 2009, 08:33:27 AM

Quote from: bis13 on January 24, 2009, 01:51:27 AM

and they are crap with regards to the beam!!!

:D :D so i am basically throwing my money away... good.... :D :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 25, 2009, 03:55:51 PM

Ive been given theese by a guy from serbia!! He said he got them for free himself, and since he had no use for them (he owns a zastava 750/ fiat 600) hell give them to me. Just need to ship it here now... :D :D :D
oh, and i need to find a right aircooled brakelight, i have the left one, but the right one eludes me... :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 27, 2009, 05:56:04 PM

Well theyre here! Paid 50â‚¬ for theese clear lights but i lovem, better pics tommora...

(http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv87/gogy1987/DSC05514.jpg)
(http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv87/gogy1987/DSC05516.jpg)
(http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv87/gogy1987/DSC05519.jpg)

tbh i was quite skeptical about the lights dispersing light everywhere, but this doesnt seem to be the case, i think they shine even better than the standards...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: 126dave on January 28, 2009, 05:46:17 AM

hi, i like them thar lamps, they brighten and sharpen up the front end of any car, im after some for my landcriuser 2, at the moment it looks like it has cateracts lol....

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on January 28, 2009, 10:55:23 AM

(http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv87/gogy1987/DSC05521.jpg)
(http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv87/gogy1987/DSC05522.jpg)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 01, 2009, 11:03:35 PM

Wooohooo, got myself those rear openable windows from an abandoned 126 on the outskirts of town, now got to wash them (the aircooled 126 was upside-down, so the oil leaked out of the engine and got on the windows :o ) and putting them on as soon as i get the courage to attempt to take the current ones of :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on February 02, 2009, 10:56:24 AM

taking your side widows out are very easy have no worries, i like the lights you will see how they disperse on dark roads but hey the look well trick who cares!?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 02, 2009, 12:09:31 PM

Quote from: bis13 on February 02, 2009, 10:56:24 AM

taking your side widows out are very easy have no worries

i hope so, just afraid they dont crack or something, just might need them one day :oops:

Quote from: bis13 on February 02, 2009, 10:56:24 AM

they disperse on dark roads but hey the look well trick who cares!?

lol, i agree, its not like its blinding me or anything :P :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 12, 2009, 02:52:03 PM

Wuuuhhuuuuu :D :D
My power windows are finally here!!! now just got to figure out how to install them...

... the box says it its made in japan, and the instructions are in English, but their English is awful....
its like "you be removed door trim, from doors..." lol its like they used Google translate and copy paste :D :D :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 12, 2009, 02:55:21 PM

(http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv87/gogy1987/DSC05545.jpg)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Darrell on February 13, 2009, 08:27:48 AM

Just installed one of those kits in mine [-/

Had to do a bit of fettling to make the window go up and down easier as they struggled to go up initially.

It's crazy! A 126 with remote central locking alarm and electric windows!

Such great kits available in e bay like this one 8)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 13, 2009, 11:08:00 AM

Ive installed the drivers side so far, and it works like a charm, now got to install the other one and pray the window goes easily :)
Just a question for you, where did you connect the + lead to? i thought of going straight from the battery, but the buttons have lights on them, and i dont want them draining the battery and being on all the time...
Yeah, all sorts of kits are avaliable online, im buying this stuff locally, cos then i can pay cod, but its great, im going for an alarm next, and theres even a module that shuts your windows when you lock the car :D CRAZY stuff 8)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 13, 2009, 08:47:02 PM

its all in! the windows roll up ok when the engine is off, but when its on, it works really well, im happy with it. Just havent made a permanent power supply, im thinking of connecting it to the interior cooling fan, cos it is powered on only when the ignition is on, and its a motor just like theese two...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on February 13, 2009, 09:18:43 PM

That's cool! How much did that set cost you?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 13, 2009, 10:07:33 PM

Round 70â‚¬

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on February 13, 2009, 10:37:01 PM

WoW.. Where's the pics or vids :D [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 13, 2009, 11:28:50 PM

Hold on, i got to finish it first, just the + lead to connect, and its done, and i need to get a new 30a fuse cos i burnt 2 while meddling with it :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on February 13, 2009, 11:45:41 PM

LoL.... :D We want pics of how you fit them to the door, so when we all go out and buy the kit We'll know how to fit them ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 14, 2009, 12:18:24 AM

Its not complicated at all, ill snap a few tommora, it just takes a little drilling and looking for the correct position for the motor, they didn't design these babys in 1972 with power windows in mind. :P
Right now im running out of electric ideas :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: K666STW on February 14, 2009, 02:33:45 AM

Quote from: Gordan on February 14, 2009, 12:18:24 AM

Its not complicated at all, ill snap a few tommora, it just takes a little drilling and looking for the correct position for the motor, they didn't design these babys in 1972 with power windows in mind. :P
Right now im running out of electric ideas :D

What about a relay hooked into the ignition and the battery?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Darrell on February 15, 2009, 08:29:31 PM

On my air cooled there was an arbritary purple and white wire sitting just behind the speedo.

I connected them to that.

It is live all the time but then the little lights have not drained the battery yet.

I don't think it is the strongest of batteries as I had to push it after the plug-in heater experience.

The alarm/central locking comes off the same power source, havn't upgraded fuse, havn't blown one.

I wanted the window roll-up function on the remote thus I think I'll have to leave them like that.

[-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 16, 2009, 04:50:20 AM

Ive connected the power windows to a fuse which is supposed to be for the rear window heater (but my cheap version doesn't have it) and so far works cool, its on only with the ignition on, and it hasn't blown the 10a fuse which was on the car even though the fuse on the p.windows is 30a. the only problem was finding the correct wire in that wire bunch that goes from the fuse box, but i managed, and its orange... [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 26, 2009, 09:38:55 PM

Been fiddling about the little one today and heres what has been done: <brand new leather cloth door cards>

Can anyone tell me what is strange in the 2nd picture, its a detail, but lets see how good your sight is :D

(http://img214.imagevenue.com/loc548/th_84039_DSC05583_122_548lo.JPG) (http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84039_DSC05583_122_548lo.JPG)(http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc903/th_84047_DSC05584_122_903lo.JPG) (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84047_DSC05584_122_903lo.JPG)(http://img231.imagevenue.com/loc544/th_84050_DSC05586_122_544lo.JPG) (http://img231.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84050_DSC05586_122_544lo.JPG)(http://img197.imagevenue.com/loc815/th_84052_DSC05587_122_815lo.JPG) (http://img197.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84052_DSC05587_122_815lo.JPG)
(http://img206.imagevenue.com/loc586/th_84059_DSC05589_122_586lo.JPG) (http://img206.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84059_DSC05589_122_586lo.JPG)(http://img211.imagevenue.com/loc452/th_84064_DSC05590_122_452lo.JPG) (http://img211.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84064_DSC05590_122_452lo.JPG)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on February 26, 2009, 10:27:11 PM

yoooze got rectric windaaas....

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 26, 2009, 10:32:01 PM

Yeah i got it recently, but there is one particular thing on the pic which is not supposed to be that way, yet, it is :D

SECOND PIC... ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on February 26, 2009, 10:32:55 PM

Quote from: Gordan on February 26, 2009, 09:38:55 PM

Can anyone tell me what is strange in the 2nd picture, its a detail, but lets see how good your sight is :D

Looking very nice. As for what's wrong, is it the way the wiring's going - it's gonna make the door card bulge isn't it?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on February 26, 2009, 10:35:26 PM

Or is it simpler than that - the buttons for the window are exactly the same - which one's up and which is down?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 26, 2009, 10:36:54 PM

The card does have a lump on it, but still not the point, neither are the buttons, little more time, and ill give you a clue... ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on February 27, 2009, 09:58:49 AM

well you have two plastic sheets for water protection inside rather than one and the bottom of the door has been covered with some sort of backing that looks like felt! youve filled the door up with electrics and must have a lorry battery and an alternator off a hgv !

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on February 27, 2009, 10:43:12 AM

Lool, but still wrong, you guys are short sighted just as i am (-12 :oops: ), ill let you in, you see those two wires, the yellow and the pink one? well its logical that the pink goes into pink and yellow to yellow, but once i connected them that way and assembled the door i found that the up button takes the window down and vice-versa. so take it all apart again and coonect it the wrong-right way :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on February 27, 2009, 03:16:49 PM

so you mean electrical plug is not idiot proof! lol

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 01, 2009, 01:25:28 PM

Problems, problems, problems.... where would we be without problems. Now my 2 cyl is leaking oil all over my freshly painted exhaust... does anyone know what could be causing it? it started when we re-tightened the cyl head after the head gasket change, the tappets were re done (but apparently not the way they should, there is a clicking sound coming from the engine which wasn't there before)
and everything was put back into place. thing is there was very little oil round the tappets when we first took the engine apart, and now it is leaking en-masse... :o :o :(
i suspect the seal round the tappet cover is cr@p, so ill replace that, but could it be something more sinister... </6 :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on March 02, 2009, 07:37:39 PM

When you replace the rocker gasket check that the oil feed pipe to the rocker shaft is seated properly. I stick the gasket to the rocker cover using clear silicone then the other side of the gasket then fit. once tightened up wipe the excess off. Just a little bit of extra insurance against it leaking :)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 02, 2009, 07:57:27 PM

It was the gasket after all, my bro put the damned thing on the last time, and it wasnt seated correctly, i used some locktite sealant for engines on it, its holding so far.
I must admit it was quite scary driving home from across town with oil dripping on a super-heated exhaust. I had a feeling it could ignite any moment. lucky for me it didnt. im getting a extinguisher any way... 8)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on March 02, 2009, 08:45:31 PM

is it an electric one? lol

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 02, 2009, 09:32:20 PM

lol, if there only was an automatic one, id buy it for sure :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 15, 2009, 03:17:48 PM

Ive finally had my carb replaced!! Yuhuuu... :D
The carb thats in is the one from a Citroen gs, it fits perfectly, only diff is that it has all metal parts, so this means i have a working choke finally... oh and second thing ive noticed is the increase in power, i now can go up most local hills in third, doing 60/70kmh.... it finally feels like it has some power under that boot :D :D the engine works soo much steadier now, and makes a lot less wibrations...
All in all i would recommend this swap to anyone having carb trouble, my old one wouldnt start in cold, the car would shake a lot when cold, and used up a lot of fuel, now, it works like a charm, dont even have to use the new choke, cos it starts with just a little throtle... :D [-/ [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on March 15, 2009, 03:31:38 PM

Just found out, the carb is a weber 30dgs

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 01, 2009, 01:18:27 AM

Well like the shout says, i smashed my bis into a pole in a crossroad, going 20-30km/h. the mecanics of the car are untuched, but the front pannel is hit bad, and the bumper broke, im just soo sad, damn this rain, damn it!!! im moving to the sahara.... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on April 01, 2009, 09:37:32 AM

because of the day we are on i have a tendancy to not believe it however if it is true then sorry to hear your misfortune at least you have an excuse to rid it of bumpers.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 01, 2009, 10:26:47 AM

Sadly my friend, its the truth, when i came home last night, and saw what date it is, i started laughing like an idiot, thinking this would be a great (stupid but great) one...
well, here are the pics... do you think it can be straightened out or will i need a new panell?

(http://img103.imagevenue.com/loc985/th_78285_DSC05600_122_985lo.JPG) (http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78285_DSC05600_122_985lo.JPG)
(http://img183.imagevenue.com/loc392/th_78286_DSC05601_122_392lo.JPG) (http://img183.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78286_DSC05601_122_392lo.JPG)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: 1973/126 on April 01, 2009, 10:51:24 AM

Sh1t man. That is unlucky :(. You must be well upset. I think you could probably pull it out. Would be easier,than replacing the front panel.
Hope you get it sorted out. Good luck!

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on April 01, 2009, 10:55:15 AM

Im really sorry to see that gordan, I think you be need some new panels tbh as the smashed ones will ned to come off the straighten the inner panels, hope you get it sorted fella... :(

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 01, 2009, 10:57:10 AM

thanx guys.
I just feel like a hungover, thing is i didnt drink anything, but i feel like getting drunk... well, im going to a pro to see what they say, and see what to do next...

oh, and the inner pannel is just a little dented where the spare wheel pushed it in, nothing serious, its just the front one im worried about...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: bis13 on April 01, 2009, 12:29:42 PM

sorry i tghought you were on a wind up mate , at least you still have your legs! take thw front panel off as it will be a mare to straighten good luck fella now go get drunk.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 01, 2009, 04:40:34 PM

Well, ive managed to locate a brand new front panell (50â‚¬) and a bumper (30â‚¬), so ill just replace the smashed bits. Now how hard is it to remove the current front panell? i take it its spot-welded all round? what tools will i bee needing?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on April 01, 2009, 05:39:45 PM

cut the meat of the panel out with a grinder so you can get the the joins on the panel then use a spot weld drill to get the remainder of the panel off whe it joins the wings and inner panel...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 01, 2009, 06:32:33 PM

Thanks stu, but i went to see the local car-repair guy, and it turned out to be a lot less expensive than i thought, so im gunna have them do it. this is finally good news, and i feel relieved. from now on its snail speed for me. theyre going to book me for going too slow... :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 03, 2009, 11:56:06 AM

Just been to the shop, all will be sorted for 80â‚¬ next Monday, huh, that's a relief, cant wait to go driving again, and its been 2 days, these little lawnmower-engined boxes are addictive... :D
p.s. tried driving the cinq yesterday, its soooooo boooriiinnnggggg.... the suspension is spongy to say the least, the steering is horrible, the seating position too high, and the back end is so light it makes noises over the smallest of bumps... that's progress for ya, no wonder they made the airc. 126 longer than the cinq.... [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: nathan126 on April 04, 2009, 10:03:37 PM

>:( Don't dis a cento! had five people in mine pulled to 60 no probs! lol
On a serious note mate, i hate to see 126's like that.. what's the plan? keeping her red? ;D
Not sure i've seen a red BIS with chrome bumbers [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 04, 2009, 10:17:42 PM

Sorry dude, its just a lame car :P had more fun with a cardboard box :D
the bis is going to see the doctors on monday, hopefully theyll treat her well, and shell be blush and red for times to come, my only concern is rust spreading out in places the original paint cracked...
i have thought about chrome bumpers, but ive decided to go plastic again. this is purely for practical reasons, imagine i was to bump into something, lets say when parking... the plastic just bounces off, and the chrome would dent, and then i would never hear the end of it from my parents... no, plastic is the way to go, although esthetically, chrome is much more appealing... [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 18, 2009, 02:58:44 PM

Well heres the current state, the front is almost ready for paint, the inside of the trunk has been painted with hammerite and ive finally installed an alarm in my electro 126 :D
i even managed to find a new bumper so will be well once again...

(http://img219.imagevenue.com/loc165/th_62718_DSC05607_122_165lo.JPG) (http://img219.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62718_DSC05607_122_165lo.JPG)(http://img158.imagevenue.com/loc110/th_62724_DSC05609_122_110lo.JPG) (http://img158.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62724_DSC05609_122_110lo.JPG)(http://img229.imagevenue.com/loc365/th_62739_DSC05610_122_365lo.JPG) (http://img229.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62739_DSC05610_122_365lo.JPG)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: nathan126 on April 18, 2009, 06:16:43 PM

Great news! :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on April 20, 2009, 09:19:56 AM

Looking good Gordan [-/ a little bit of paint and Guido will be as good as new ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 27, 2009, 12:05:27 PM

Well hes done, ok has been for 2 days but couldnt find the damn usb cable for my camera, it all turned out well, a few dents above the indicator are noticable form close-up, but otherwhise its cool. only bad thing is that square of new paint on the bonnet, which soo stands out from the rest of it... :o
(http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc769/th_30439_DSC05613_122_769lo.JPG) (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=30439_DSC05613_122_769lo.JPG) (http://img217.imagevenue.com/loc591/th_30444_DSC05614_122_591lo.JPG) (http://img217.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=30444_DSC05614_122_591lo.JPG)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on April 27, 2009, 07:11:51 PM

It certainly looks better than it was, if you gently go round the edge of the square with some wet and dry 1200grit paper until its at the same level then T-Cut the hole bonnet and finish off with a good polish it should look better and hardly noticeable [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on April 27, 2009, 08:21:29 PM

will do, its either that or re-spraying the whole bonnet, which doesnt sound all that bad actually... :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 04, 2009, 05:12:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1WzQs9R9D0&feature=channel_page
8) 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: 1973/126 on May 04, 2009, 10:26:39 PM

Nice one Gordan. Like all the gadgets [-/...

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 05, 2009, 05:45:21 AM

:) :) :) im just waiting for a short circuit... :D :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on May 05, 2009, 07:30:00 AM

nice to see Guido back in the running gordan- hopefully alan will join the ranks of the running cars in a week or so but this is a good mojo boost to see!!! 8)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 07, 2009, 09:37:00 PM

Well i had a free day today and decided to do something ive been postponing for a while - drop the tank, fuel tank that is. i had no idea its such a pain to remove one of these, but its out now, and i have a feeling its going to be a even bigger pain to put back. anyways i got a new f. level indicator cos the old one wasnt doing its job:

(http://img202.imagevenue.com/loc354/th_28227_DSC05637_122_354lo.JPG) (http://img202.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=28227_DSC05637_122_354lo.JPG)(http://img268.imagevenue.com/loc416/th_28234_DSC05639_122_416lo.JPG) (http://img268.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=28234_DSC05639_122_416lo.JPG)
the tank was washed (water, a lot of it, hope it wont rust :oops: ) and i painted it in Hammerite Red (now that i got a can of hammerite, i just cant stop painting... :D ) ill post a pic of that tommorow, when its nice and dry...
(http://img254.imagevenue.com/loc183/th_28230_DSC05638_122_183lo.JPG) (http://img254.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=28230_DSC05638_122_183lo.JPG)(http://img203.imagevenue.com/loc500/th_28236_DSC05640_122_500lo.JPG) (http://img203.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=28236_DSC05640_122_500lo.JPG)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 19, 2009, 08:37:32 PM

Well as i said before, i got tired of the stock carpets so i decided to do something about it, went out and bought a standard black carpet for houses etc. the main problem was that the orig carpets were not completely flat, so what i did was put them under some bricks to flatten them, then draw the outlines on the new carpet and snip-snip-snip and done! i really didnt think id be able to do it, but i did it and here are the pics....
(http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc479/th_61479_DSC05685_122_479lo.JPG) (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61479_DSC05685_122_479lo.JPG) (http://img222.imagevenue.com/loc349/th_61487_DSC05686_122_349lo.JPG) (http://img222.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61487_DSC05686_122_349lo.JPG)

p.s. notice the attention to details in the cocpit, like the black-red ambi pur fragrancer, or the black-red chewing gum container near the gearshift... :D :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on May 19, 2009, 09:21:06 PM

You've even colour coded your handbrake lever!! No ... wait ... :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 19, 2009, 09:38:07 PM

Haha... i prefer not painting parts that are used often, the paint usually just falls off.. :oops:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on May 19, 2009, 09:47:32 PM

Hehehe

In all seriousness though that looks great, something I'd love to try but am sure I would get hideously wrong and end up hating :cry:

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 19, 2009, 09:54:18 PM

thx, the point is it was ridiculously easy, just draw and cut, i myself had no previous experience with this stuff, and it turned up great! and cheap... :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 20, 2009, 07:36:00 PM

here are some pics you can put on your desktop to think of me :D :D </ :beer:

(http://img11.imagevenue.com/loc871/th_26912_DSC05693_122_871lo.JPG) (http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=26912_DSC05693_122_871lo.JPG)(http://img228.imagevenue.com/loc141/th_26921_DSC05695_122_141lo.JPG) (http://img228.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=26921_DSC05695_122_141lo.JPG)(http://img170.imagevenue.com/loc915/th_26926_DSC05696_122_915lo.JPG) (http://img170.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=26926_DSC05696_122_915lo.JPG)(http://img229.imagevenue.com/loc78/th_26929_DSC05697_122_78lo.JPG) (http://img229.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=26929_DSC05697_122_78lo.JPG)
(http://img221.imagevenue.com/loc214/th_26933_DSC05700_122_214lo.JPG) (http://img221.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=26933_DSC05700_122_214lo.JPG)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 26, 2009, 05:07:23 PM

(http://img237.imagevenue.com/loc257/th_27152_DSC05715_122_257lo.JPG) (http://img237.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=27152_DSC05715_122_257lo.JPG)(http://img174.imagevenue.com/loc1074/th_27160_DSC05716_122_1074lo.JPG) (http://img174.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=27160_DSC05716_122_1074lo.JPG)(http://img201.imagevenue.com/loc419/th_27166_DSC05717_122_419lo.JPG) (http://img201.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=27166_DSC05717_122_419lo.JPG)
xmas1 xmas1

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Pete126 on June 26, 2009, 08:01:11 PM

The dogs great and guido not bad either :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 26, 2009, 08:30:38 PM

Thx, the crazy mut just rane into the shot :D
The new fog/spot lights are great, together with my main beams they turn night into day :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 26, 2009, 10:46:49 PM

oh i forgot to tell you guys, guido has done his first 100000 kms and the little counter has started from 0 again... :D

(http://img151.imagevenue.com/loc918/th_97892_GetAttachment.aspx_122_918lo.jpg) (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97892_GetAttachment.aspx_122_918lo.jpg)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Jan-in-UK on June 26, 2009, 10:50:48 PM

Nice thing to have "natural" zero again [-/ hope it will make another one ;D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on June 26, 2009, 11:06:02 PM

im going to put an ad out, only 200 kms on the clock :D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on June 26, 2009, 11:14:52 PM

Quote from: Gordan on June 26, 2009, 11:06:02 PM

im going to put an ad out, only 200 kms on the clock :D

People might think it's a bit suspicious when the trip counter reads more than that though ;)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on July 09, 2009, 11:11:12 PM

Just going back to your carpets G-man, when you had the new carpet cut out did you have to use heat to mould it around the shapes inside the car or did you just sort of press it into place?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on July 09, 2009, 11:51:34 PM

no heat moulding or any difficult complicated mumbo jumbo, i just cut it out and placed it in. oh id do remember cutting the carpet in a few really difficult places with a scalpel, and then just gluing the pieces together with some super-duper glue. its childs play and turned out better than i imagined [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Chris Lakin on July 12, 2009, 09:44:39 PM

my 1976 has done 98500miles, i hope it gets to 100k

Chris

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on July 12, 2009, 10:26:05 PM

thats about 160000miles! awesome! so there is hope for me yet :D was the engine overhauled or standard?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Chris Lakin on July 14, 2009, 10:58:54 PM

hi Gordon,

the only thing the old man told me he had done on my 126 was a new clutch, new shock absorbers, and loads of oil changes!!

he used to poor the old engine oil down into the panels and underneath teh car.

The other thing he taught me was to use Vasoline its just like waxoyl when it dries it dries hard over time, probs not good to get it on rubber though, i smear it over everything.

Chris

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: roobeh on July 15, 2009, 12:29:14 AM

vasaline is expensive though.. how much do you use???

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Darrell on July 15, 2009, 10:29:42 AM

hmm @ pouring engine oil into panels..

which pannels? and where do you access the panels?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on July 15, 2009, 11:17:26 AM

pouring oil is/was a common practice here, people used to drill out holes in their skodas, zastavas, fiats and so on, fill them up with old oil, plug it, drive around for a week or so, and then unplug make some holes on the underside, needles to say some paklots got a bit dirrty :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Chris Lakin on July 15, 2009, 05:34:12 PM

ive been told old engine oil is the best because it has carbon in after being burnt.

Vasoline isnt that expensive, there are lots of cheap makes, Â£1 shop for instance you get a large tub of it, just smear it on, its good because its clear and can go onto panels, i put it under the wheel arches and just smear it over eveything underneath.

Also its good to put it in the spare wheel well, wouldnt advise getting it on your spare tyres though, i think petroleum jelly rots rubber.

Chris

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: roobeh on July 15, 2009, 07:56:38 PM

yes it does. we have a 99p store here. you save a penny ( :arty:) but then you dont get anything unusal like vasaline :cry: >:(.

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Chris Lakin on July 23, 2009, 10:35:35 PM

haha :D

the checkout girl will be loking at you funning when you walk in and buy 10 tubs of vasoline lol ::)

Chris

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: roobeh on July 24, 2009, 12:04:10 AM

Nonsence, i'll just tell her i'll be smearing it on the undercarriage to stop it going rusty. ;D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on July 24, 2009, 07:12:58 AM

whilt not rying to be cheeky wouldnt it be easier to just go and buy some waxoyl..?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on July 24, 2009, 07:23:44 AM

now wheres the fun in that, might as well have someone else do it :P

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Rusty's Uncle on July 24, 2009, 08:25:04 AM

:) I got a "recipe" for home made waxoil from the net & used that [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: stuey on July 24, 2009, 09:48:15 AM

Quote from: Gordan on July 24, 2009, 07:23:44 AM

now wheres the fun in that, might as well have someone else do it :P

I have a guy to type my answers into the forum.. let alone do my rustproofing...manual labour surely not.... ;D

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Darrell on July 24, 2009, 12:30:00 PM

Home made waxoil!!!!

I got to get that recipe off you rusty! [-/

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Gordan on May 10, 2012, 08:21:15 PM

Just popping in to say hy there, love to see the forum still as live as ever, and love to see my toppic still the no.1 project in terms of views and replys :D 8) keep it up guys, i might be rejoining you one day, but untill this recession is over im afraid not :$

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Eklipze3k on May 10, 2012, 09:40:41 PM

Quote from: Gordan on May 10, 2012, 08:21:15 PM

Just popping in to say hy there, love to see the forum still as live as ever, and love to see my toppic still the no.1 project in terms of views and replys :D 8) keep it up guys, i might be rejoining you one day, but untill this recession is over im afraid not :$

I was wondering the other day where you'd gotten to! Hope you're doing well :)

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: naboula01 on May 11, 2012, 04:45:46 PM

Great work... Everything look so natural on year car. Great job :o

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: ciaoflyer on May 11, 2012, 08:42:09 PM

Quote from: Gordan on December 17, 2008, 06:46:02 PM

Well ive been quite busy today, working on my BIS. Since the box is dead i took it out. As the engine was out i decided to clean all the yuck that has accumulated over the years and got this... 8)
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6655/dsc05425dk6.th.jpg) (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05425dk6.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6484/dsc05429ry7.th.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05429ry7.jpg)

then i tried to make one good box out of two broken ones (they had different problems) but after a few lagers i ended up with this... :P :P

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/562/dsc05433up3.th.jpg) (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05433up3.jpg)

then i continued work on my alloys, and now theyre ready for their white paint...

(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1033/dsc05432kk6.th.jpg) (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05432kk6.jpg)

Well so far so good, witing for my local ad papers to come out and see if someone will call offering a box, if not, ill buy a hole damn spare car...

My current short term plans are: -get the carb sorted
-tyres for the alloys
-electrical windows
-seat heater/ massager 8)
-subwoofer wit amp. :P
-xenon lights

Nice to see you back Gordon, just a quick one, how did you clean your engine like this?

Title: Re: Guido the Fiat
Post by: Scratchski on June 25, 2012, 09:56:31 PM

Quote from: Darrell on July 24, 2009, 12:30:00 PM

Home made waxoil!!!!

I got to get that recipe off you rusty! [-/

Your looking to get waxoil advice from someone called Rusty ...... :D :D :D

Love it ;D

Club126UK

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