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polonus

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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2013, 08:36:34 AM »
For transporting my Fiat from Krakow to Bremerhaven I hired local Polish broker, Adam Florczak,  [email protected] ,  http://www.lordbereus.pl/  He charged me 600 zlotys, or about 175 US$ for that.

From Bremerhaven to Charleston, SC it was Trans Global Auto Logistics,  http://www.tgal.us  It was about 1550 US$ plus $450 for the Charleston - Charlotte leg.  I highly recommend both companies, they did good job.

When I went to DMV office first time, I had very unpleasant experience. Lady "at the window" was rude and everything was "NO!". She was maybe 75 years old and just didn't know what to do with gray market car. However she gave me list of things I need to have.

Some of the forms they need do not apply to vehicles over 25 years old, but they needed some forms from customs, proof of ownership (Polish registration was sufficient, since there is not such think as a "title" over there), proof of liability insurance (we called number of agencies, some of them do not insure gray market cars, others are very expensive, but State Farm insured this car for a 228 dollars for 6 months).  Car had to be also inspected by state officer, who checked VIN number (it is located in front, on the trunk floor) and basic safety devices, like lights and wipers etc.

Our car was bought in Poland by my daughter and register there, so here we transfer the ownership of that car right at the DMV office, at the window. It was at our second visit there. This time we where lucky, we had nice young girl at the window, who also had no idea what to do with us, but she was very helpful. She called someone, she faxed our papers, and just two hours later I left this office with new NC licence plate in my hand. I also ordered personal plate "Fiat126P", which came by mail few weeks later.


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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2013, 08:43:22 AM »
when i bring my 126 back, im going to put classic insurance on it. have you looked into that? it should be very cheap per year!

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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2013, 10:37:47 AM »
I don't think it would be much cheaper than one dollar and quarter per day I pay now and that kind of insurance usually has some limitations. I am driving my 126P every day (if is not broken  ;D ) and probably I would put too many miles on that car to qualify for that kind of insurance. 

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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2013, 11:23:06 AM »
Thats a very nice plate haha!!

Looks good although $2000 is alot to get it there? :o
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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2013, 11:40:53 AM »
Thats a very nice plate haha!!

Looks good although $2000 is alot to get it there? :o

 :o  Plate like that costs about 30 dollars, $2000 I paid for bringing rest of the car from Poland to the USA.  ;)

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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2013, 10:17:26 PM »
Thank you so much. I appreciate the details.  I assumed it was going to be way more expensive to float the little fiat over.  Everyone i talked to came up with ridiculous stories about shipping cars (a friend sent hers from Cali to Hawaii and paid 3 grand).

I do believe I'll be buying a car when we spend our month in Poland in january.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Then the fun of making it fast begins......

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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2013, 12:08:38 AM »
Polonus, I am new here but I replied to one of your videos on Youtube before. For insurance in the US check out Hagerty Insurance (www.hagerty.com), they especialize in classic, rare, collectible, vintage and odd cars. As long as you have another car that is considered a daily driver and insured with another company (like your M3) they will most definitely insure your 126. Their rates are incredibly low for eligible cars.

I am currently looking to buy a 126 too, and I think I will get a cheaper, newer 126 at first, to see what it will be like living with a 23 hp car. I have owned 40-50 hp cars before and I am fine with that, but I want to make sure I can deal with 23 hp before committing to a more expensive, older 126. On Thursday I am going to look at two 126s, both of them in Germany but with Polish papers and tags, one is a 1999 126P, the other a 2000 126 Town. They are advertised for 560 and 600 Euro, respectively. One has 56,000 km, the other has 100,000 km. Both are in excellent shape as their owners tell me. We'll see...

If I do indeed like owning a 23 hp and figure that is something I can live with, I reckon next year I will look for an older air cooled car in better shape, and spend more money on a 25+ year old car, and import it into the USA when I return home in 2015. I am in Germany with the US Army and have a bit over a year left here. Perhaps a tiny Fiat will follow me home!

I learned to drive on a Fiat 147 (Brazilian market 127), and our car had 46 hp. The 147 is bigger and heavier than the 126, so I imagine I will be OK with the performance of the 126.

Now, if anyone here can point me to a 126 buyer's guide...

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Re: Fiat 126P in the USA
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2013, 01:39:27 PM »
Polonus, I am new here but I replied to one of your videos on Youtube before. For insurance in the US check out Hagerty Insurance (www.hagerty.com), they especialize in classic, rare, collectible, vintage and odd cars. As long as you have another car that is considered a daily driver and insured with another company (like your M3) they will most definitely insure your 126. Their rates are incredibly low for eligible cars.

You right, looks like I'll pay less per year for full coverage (5 000 dollars car value) then I'm paying now for 6 months just for liability insurance.

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I will get a cheaper, newer 126 at first, to see what it will be like living with a 23 hp car. I have owned 40-50 hp cars before and I am fine with that, but I want to make sure I can deal with 23 hp before committing to a more expensive, older 126.
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I learned to drive on a Fiat 147 (Brazilian market 127), and our car had 46 hp. The 147 is bigger and heavier than the 126, so I imagine I will be OK with the performance of the 126.

It is a quite different experience to drive a 127 and 126. I drove 60 HP Fiat 125p, which was much heavier then 127, and Fiat 850 with 40 HP engine - they both felt much stronger then 126,  specially 125p. However I use 126 now every day and have no problems in traffic in Charlotte as long as I'm not entering any freeway. Fiat 126 is quite comfortable (as far as the engine performance goes) if you travel up to 45-50 mph. But remember: there is no power steering and no power brakes. Brakes are week, steering is heavy and has to be lubricated every 5000 km or so

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Now, if anyone here can point me to a 126 buyer's guide...

Look for rust - everywhere.  Everything else is easy to fix and most parts are still available. In Poland they dirt cheap, in the USA more expensive, but still available, at http://mrfiat.com/index.php?car=Fiat&type=Fiat%20500  Those are for 500 Nuova, but most mechanical parts will fit 126.

And when you will be tired of driving 23-hp car, you can relatively easy swap engine. One of the easiest ways is to put VW Beetle engine in it, with transmission. Many modified engines are available in the USA and they will fit if you know knowledgeable mechanic. Look at this project: 

http://www.racingforum.pl/index.php?showtopic=98489

It is in Polish, but you can see pictures. Car has 2,4 liter VW Beetle air-cooled engine with 200 HP.

When I registered my car they didn't put any engine info - neither in registration nor title. Registration and title says only: MAKE/SERIES: FIAT; STYLE: 2S; FUEL: G.  So if I swap engine, as long as it will be "gasoline" engine, I guess I don't have to even inform about it anybody.  In Poland everybody knows how Fiat's engine looks like, here they have no clue and you can always tell that engine you have now is the original car's power mill. :D