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smallcox

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 05:44:29 PM »
I think my English seems to be a problem to Racci Transmission, either yes they know there is a problem and treating the joe public like muppets or just in the wrong trade.

I have sent 8 E-mails to respond to a problem with there gearbox kits as the spline to spline fit on the second part they sent me is in question. However they only respond with-never had problems with our parts. See some recent responses below

Hi Giulio,
Have you tried these two parts together as I have mentioned below and do you find the tolerance on the splines acceptable?, That was the original problem I was asking. It is not the layout I am concerned about it is the spline to spline fitment of these two parts that worries me. As I have explained this part shattered on my gearbox and now installing the part again you sent me is not a good fit.
Regards Steve

On 26.06.2012 07:21, Giulio Dialti - Bacci Trasmissioni wrote:

    Dear Mr. Cox, we've produced all the same layout since a lot of years without any problem on the couplings. Best regards, Giulio Dialti ----- Original Message ----- From: "smallcox" <[email protected]> To: "Giulio Dialti - Bacci Trasmissioni" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Richiesta/Ordine [www.bacciromano.com]

        Hi, Giulio, No not worried about the grooves made when grinding the teeth this is not the problem. (I understand the process) The part you show in your attached photo to me, it is the splines themselves, they seem undersize because when you fit the 5th dog ring onto the 2nd gear splines the spline fit is very, very loose. You can rattle to two parts on the connecting splines. I beleive this should be a sliding fit with minimum tolarance between the splines. Try sliding the 5th dog ring onto this part in the photo to see the problem. I know the 5th dog ring needs to move on the splines to engage 5th gear but the tolorance is sloppy at best. Thanks Steve On 23.06.2012 10:17, Giulio Dialti - Bacci Trasmissioni wrote:

            Look at the attached photos, please: when we make the teeth for the 2nd fixed gear we must touch the hub spline for the 5th dog ring, but there isn't any possibility to avoid this problem as the toothing is made by a spline shaft hob. Anyone hasn't never had any problem.


Well you get what you pay for, but then again they sure know how to charge ???  you have been warned

Regards Smallcox
« Last Edit: June 26, 2012, 05:48:01 PM by smallcox »
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2012, 08:30:59 PM »
After read there replies Steve, I think for 600 Quid (so its not cheap) bacciromano.com should start listening to there customers if they have a problem with the gearbox kits they produce, That's how companies improve their products.
But it seems like they only want to get hold of your money,
I don't know of any Factory that produces parts that never have any Failures, they ought to just own up to it and send a replacement part out FOC.
There just taking the P*ss Because they know your over a 1000 miles away and not likely to knock on there door.
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2012, 08:40:52 PM »
have you put this info on the Facebook page, there must be someone in Italy  ;)

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2012, 12:03:29 AM »
do you think that most of these 5th gear conversions are on cars with not much torque/power and that is why they have no problems? i know you treat your car with respect but your engine does pack a bit more oomph than many modded engines. they sound like they are complacent in their attitude and need to work on customer services a little, sorry to hear that you are having a nightmare with them can you not get a part made to your spec over here?   

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2012, 10:12:01 PM »
Ok, so I get another E-mail as below, noted not answered my question again-

When i speak about layout i'm referring to the whole gearkit layout and we've produced always in that manner.
If you want a more professional modification, we have the 6 speed gearbox.

Reagrds,
Giulio

Yes I think I will spend thousand on your gearbox conversion or not, maybe build a gearbox for a fraction of the price and it will work.

Yes I can except that the extra power is a problem for there performance kit but,,,,,,,,, the question was do you beleive the spline tolerance is acceptable? I'am not after a freebie but wondered if there tolarance went out on producting these parts, I believe the converstion is a good design and the parts are off good quality it was just the tolarance on the spline was questionable.

I know the extra power will break bits but the parts should meet a required standard and therefor they will not respond to the question. Bless them :P

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 05:07:31 PM »
Dear all,

I just wanted to say that I am completely fascinated as to what you are all talking about!!! It all sounds extremely exciting, and I find myself wanting some even whilst being entirely in the dark as to what they are.

Think I will stick to getting mine on the road first, however i look forward to joining in these conversations in a few decades  ???

x

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 07:56:49 PM »
yeah i get your point and i suppose with your engineering experience you can answer the question yourself the more movement the bigger the chance of it failing in effect although its a new part you are fitting it might as well be an old worn part as that is what it will behave like, i feel for you mate as there is nothing worse than being where you are at this point in time.

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2012, 03:59:01 PM »
Hi fellow 126er's and Rusty, hehehe :P

Just e-mailed the cv joint manufacture and they have informed me the raw material has been delivered and mid July should be ready. When I get a confirmation will let those know.

Cheers Smallcox.  Happy birthday to me, Happy birthday to me. Did I mention its my birthday today :D

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2012, 05:58:06 PM »
Hi smallbit and a very happy birthday to you   :wave
The only bloke I know that has the body of a child and the mental age and grumpiness of a 98 year old  :o :P :o

Have a good one and keep us up to speed on the couplings , the drive ones that is  :$

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2012, 08:35:38 PM »
Yea, happy birthday!..

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2012, 09:13:46 PM »
Happy, Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2012, 09:17:02 PM »
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2012, 10:52:22 PM »
happy Birthday Steve!!!

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2012, 11:08:34 PM »
Over here in the States we're marking your birthday with big celebrations and fireworks. I didn't realize you were so well known here.   Happy Birthday

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2012, 11:51:28 PM »
Happy Birthday