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smallcox

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It only broke
« on: June 08, 2012, 12:19:52 PM »
Hi Boys and Girls, oh and Rusty,

Got back from a very wet Modified Nationals Show and had troulbe getting 2nd gear. Anyway removed the box and found the dog mesh for 5th gear broken and sitting in the bottom off the case stopping me selecting 2nd gear.
I have sent a e-mail to Bacci Transmision and awaiting there response as this part is under no load and does not explain why it broke, possilby not heat treated correctly, anyones quess. hope they will replace it other wise gotto get one machined and treated.
Can you guys help? my flexi couplings are needing replaceing about 40,000 mile old so can't complain but some ware on here there was a mod mentioned about different type joint like a constant volisity joint.
Anyway that or quality original coupling as the power will eat copy versions. Recommend a supplier of above will be greatful.

Have Fun Smallcox :P
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 01:09:01 PM »
 Oh man that sucks big time considering the price of them 5 speed conversions.
 Will be interesting to see if you get a reply from the supplier.
 At least you are the man who can fix it. Maybe you should make your own 5 sp. conversions kits and start selling them on.  ;)
 I think them tri pods are a good idea and considering the standard couplings would cost you about 28 Euros a pair they seem to be priced well at 99 Euros.
 
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 01:37:58 PM »
Hi all I have the cv type joints fitted to my Gamine, I used to go through the normal couplings every 1000 -1500 miles must have been cheap repo parts.  I have had no problems with the new joints, I think Hudson Henry has the complete internal and external cv set up fitted to his 500.  They are available from most 500/126 spares suppliers or from the manufacturers.
http://www.fiat500vdlaan.nl/en/index.php have them for E119.50 on gearbox page near bottom. You can also find them on ebay italy.

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 02:19:33 PM »
Hi Boys and Girls, oh and Rusty,



How very dare you  >:(

So I rang smallthing to give him a blast then console him . But it was so sad hearing an "almost" grown man crying !  :P

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 03:23:12 PM »
Ok so I stop CRYing now,

CV joint company has already sent a E-mail to confirm price and has informed me that this kit is used on a heavy van so the kit is more than up to the job. So happy days.

Here's the good news, but the bad news will follow. :o If I purchase 8 kits it works out 81 euros a kit and 30 euros postage so if anyone wishes to order these kits drop me a post/mail, now the bad news no kits are available until July :cry:

smallcox

Oh Bacci Transmision has the part I need so hopefully they wont stich me up, as we know them as a quality company in motor sport. I will keep you posted ;D
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 06:07:58 AM »
So the dividing the shipping cost between the 8 that makes it about 85 euros or £69 at todays exchange rate per set of couplings, now that has got to be a bargain. Can you put me down for 2 sets  :)

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 07:20:14 AM »
 1 set for me as well please!
 I`ll PM you regarding payment etc.
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 08:05:06 AM »
After my coupling episode at RR last year, kindly put me down for a 2 pairs please. One for my red Bis as well.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2012, 01:48:40 PM by Amateb8 »

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 10:54:04 AM »
I see there is a interest in these couplings and for the price can see why.

Remember those that wish to have a set, only if 8 or more are ordered do they work out this price which is about the same price off a decent set of original coupers. Starting price is 98euros plus postage.

If you interested please pm me because as soon as there avalible I will be ordering them- however many.

£69 pound per set if Rusty working are correct for 8 sets. I can bring to Retro rides for those attending.

Ps this was the response for quality from the supplier-

Fiat 126/500 tripod cv joints are not available this moment. We produce them from time to time only, to fill up the gap between our basic activity.
We plan to make some at the beginning of Jully. I will inform you.
The joints we use for this item comes from 1,3 tonn Ford with rather strong engine. So it works without any problems in such a small vehicle like Fiat 126 or old500. Driveline knocking always appear in used gearbox and differential. Tripod joints could be a source of such a noise only in case when water and sand come into a joint, through a broken joint boot.

Cheers all,  :P
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 12:41:32 PM »
Put me down for a set as well. Sorry make it 2 sets Fraser wants a set for his 126 as well

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 01:41:28 AM »
Ditto: Rusty, Amateb8 and PJ - put me down for a set as well - if its not too much trouble.

Would I be correct in thinking that this mod would eliminate the leaking from the axle seals ???

I like to have at least 2ltrs of oil in my gearbox but the leaking out the axle seals is a bit of a pain :$

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 05:42:15 PM »
these kits are for the wheel side only to replace the silent blocks, hudson henry has fitted the dual ended kit you would have to ask him how he has got on with these.

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Re: It only broke
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2012, 09:58:29 PM »
Just got a response from Bacci Transmission.

The part require is only a small part but have been quoted 163 euros :o

this is the response from above-
in attachment the proforma invoice for the spare part.
> The gearkit hasn't never change since a lot of years; we didn't have
> any report about mistaken parts or mistaken steel used or thermal
> treatment.

I ask them to wave the cost as quality company and now waiting there response :P

I'll keep you informed
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Re: It only broke
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 09:23:28 PM »
So I got a response and they offered a discount to date so totaling 136 euros :cry:

Man that sucks. Well something is better than nothing I quess and they are always polite, just don't tell the wife :) :) :)
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