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ciaoflyer

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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 05:05:23 PM »
I have now decided to rebuild the original stub axles as I never exchanged them when I bought the new ones.  

The nipple on the original is at the top as opposed to the ones from Ricambio which are in the middle next to the locking pin.  Also by examining the original stub axle there is a space at the bottom for a second nipple but it has not been drilled and installed.  So the plan is to rebuild and install a second nipple!

At least then I know they will have been built correctly!

ps Are the standard polish made pins and bush kits ok?
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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 12:40:41 PM »
The kit i fitted was Polish and it needed only a minimum amount of reaming.
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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2012, 10:22:49 PM »
Did Ricambio come back to you with regards to the defective reconditioned stub axles?

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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2012, 11:26:19 PM »
Did Ricambio come back to you with regards to the defective reconditioned stub axles?

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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2012, 11:39:45 PM »
not yet....
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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2012, 08:02:50 AM »
Will these fit the BIS?

http://www.126fan.sk/eshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=275

And what size reamer do I need, 15mm or adjustable?
« Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 10:36:28 AM by ciaoflyer »
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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2012, 11:46:21 AM »
Back from New Zealand now , great trip  :) Kept checking the forum when I could.
I asked what side because I have an off side factory reconditioned stub axle assembly going spare so wrong side for you.
I used a king pin kit from the 126fan.sk guys and it was the best ever. I did a blow by blow account of my experience on here last year. The replacement bushes were easy to tap in and they were so precise that no reaming was required at all.
If the grease nipple is drilled into the moving axle part of the assembly then that is unheard of in my experience and totaly useless. The locking pin secures the king pin into that section so that there is no movement there and the king pin then turns in the bushes. In normal circumstances with the single nipple set up at the top the grease is pumped in and can get to the outer spiral grooves that run down the outside of the pin and also via a horizontal hole that lines up with the nipple the grease can flow into the central hole that runs the length of the pin. Grease pumped into the centre hole can travel up, is sealed in by the top suspension bush and is then forced back down the outer grooves and bushes. Grease also travels down and is held in by the lower seal or plug (you hope as these are often faulty or have fallen out) then is forced back up the spiral grooves,
Well that's the theory anyway  ;D

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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2012, 06:41:33 PM »
Well went to MOT man today and it is a deff fail so I am going to get in touch with Ricambio again.  

Yes Rusty the nipple is on the moving part right next to the locking pin.  Mot man said I could try and get a bit of rubber on the locking pin and put a g clamp on to see if it seals it so the grease can go in :-X

Thanks for your help, gonna rebuild the old ones and put extra grease nipple in!
« Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 07:31:17 PM by ciaoflyer »
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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2012, 06:49:57 PM »
Is play in a Kingpin dangerous as I still drive the car daily?
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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2012, 07:29:25 PM »
Don't really want to comment on safety, I'm the sort who has risked imminent bearing failure on several cars, but I have only ever lost two rear hubs (one at 70  :o ).
I will say that worn kingpins cause premature wear on bushes and tyres though.

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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 10:41:04 PM »
Pumping grease into that section is just a waste of grease. I agree with Marc that the bushes will wear very quickly , tyre wear and your stearing will be affected. Having said that I do not think that you are in any immediate danger. The kingpin is unlikely to fracture and unlike the Morris Minors where the front suspension came apart when the kingpin was ungreased & worn out.
I was very surprised when my 500L which is running a disc brake conversion on 126 stub axles failed the MOT on a kingpin, a couple of years old but not too many miles on the clock and greased often. It was the expensive conversion from a company you may have heard of Ricambio  :o
When I fixed it the steering was so much improved  :D

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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2012, 06:26:50 PM »
Looks like they have 2 nipples too.

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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2012, 07:45:34 PM »
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Re: Kingpins again!
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2012, 08:10:08 PM »
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