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How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« on: May 26, 2016, 11:08:40 PM »
I've tried a duvet in the boot which helps, anyone got any good ideas?

I'm thinking the exhaust only has one silencer, unlike most cars that have the engine at the front end and space to add 2 silencers the length of the car, so is it the exhaust thats making most of the noise or the engine or just both combined :-


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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 12:15:41 PM »
Make sure engine and gearbox mounts are in good condition, it's actually resonance that makes it loud inside. Sound deadening pads can be placed on the roof, door and window seals need to actually seal.

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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2016, 01:40:55 PM »
I've put deadening on the parcel shelf (a/c), under both rear seat sections and in the rear footwell - can't have made it worse but didn't cost much.


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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2016, 06:40:33 PM »
I'm interested in answers to this question too. On a 8 hour drive constant motorway the sound didn't really bother me until I went to bed that night and the room was quiet. It was then I could still hear the engine ringing in my ears!

I have now have a set of earplugs in my ashtray, for those longer journeys.

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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2016, 07:49:03 PM »
I'm thinking the exhaust only has one silencer, unlike most cars that have the engine at the front end and space to add 2 silencers the length of the car, so is it the exhaust thats making most of the noise or the engine or just both combined :-

Although the Bis has only 1 silencer, being a later car it probably had to meet more stringent noise regulations than the earlier a/c cars. In fact it will gain a lot of quieting from the water cooling - all else equal a w/c engine is quieter as the water absorbs the vibration that is a sound wave.

For additional sound-proofing, you will need as others before me have said, to stop the larger body panels resonating, and you do this by sticking on them sound-absorbing foam.

It's important to realise the distinction between allowing the sound to be created (by the resonating panel) and trying to stop it reaching your ears (for example, by wearing ear plugs or shoving a duvet on the back seat) and stopping the sound being created in the first place (by changing the resonant frequency of the body panel so it doesn't resonate so much, or does so at a different frequency, or preferably both).

Obviously stopping the panel vibrating is the best route, since then not only you but also your passengers can hear each other talk, listen to the radio etc. It also frees up the back seat.

Like most effects of this sort, you'll get the best result if you use the right materials and fit them properly - bonded to the panel across the whole area, not just 'shoved in' or taped in with a few bits of gaffer tape and hope that'll do it.

The right materials are readily available off the roll on eBay or from specialist suppliers - just google 'acoustic foam'. Don't forget that in the engine bay area you ought to use a reflective foil backed foam to stop the engine heat melting the foam.

Also remember that once the foam is stuck properly in place you won't be able to remove it (without a lot of mess and bother) so don't trap any electrical wires, windscreen wash hoses etc underneath it. Also, you won't easily be able to access that side of the panel for any rust repairs, so sort out any rust issues first.




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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2016, 09:27:21 AM »
Changing the engine and gearbox mounts and the silencer did it for me. I have now about 90 decibel with full throttle.
I'm thinking of deadening the parcel shelf too (but I have to make one first  :) ). Taking away the sound completely would be ridiculous, how else would people in a five mile radius know your driving your car.  :D

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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2016, 03:36:41 PM »
I'm a little worried I have a stripped interior with no sound deadening aluminium door panels and seats and perspex windows... I might need some earplugs.... :P
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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2016, 07:57:18 PM »
I dynamatted my entire car - it took all weekend and afterwards I could barely tell any difference at all.

The biggest improvement I got on my Bis was to buy a parcel shelf and fit it - much quieter!

Come to think of  it I might put dynamat on the underside of my parcel shelf and see if get any better still.

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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2016, 08:42:34 PM »
and all that dynamat would have added weight at the expense of barely any difference :( I wonder if having decent speakers would help drown engine noise out.

Or perhaps converting to electric is the only way.

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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 10:32:58 PM »
Thanks guys, thats given me food for thought ???

I've got a db meter app on the phone, so will have to do a before and after measurement once I decide what I'm going to do  ;)  Saying that, I may just start with swapping out the boot duvet from a tog5 to a tog15, as the summer is here ;D
Will keep you posted. The joys of owning a 126  :lol:

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Re: How to reduce cabin noise in a 126 Bis
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 10:49:34 PM »
In the past I've painted the inside of the doors/rear panels with a thick coating of "tetroseal" underseal which helps stop the panels from drumming, leaving the inside bottom free so water can drain out of the drain holes ;)
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