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where does the gear box oil go please????
« on: July 10, 2014, 05:42:44 PM »
Hi all im new today to the forum, brought my 126 yesterday and thought id give it a full service, ive drained all the oil and water. right then am I just being stupid and blind but where does the water and gear box oil go lol.

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 09:05:25 PM »
When you open the boot you'll see a black cap on the left, right by the rear vent. That's where the water goes. If you turn the ignition on you'll see a little red light on the dash board. It's the light on the top right and had a symbol of a radiator. Fill the water up at the cap end and watch untill the light goes off. Start the car and when it gets to temperature, open the luggage compartment an unscrew the little valve on the end of the pipe by the heater and bleed the air out untill the heater in the car comes out lovely and warm. This is a very important process as if you don't do it, you'll blow the head gasket.

The gear box oil filler point is next to the starter motor so you'll need to remove that for the best access. It's a square bolt so make sure you have a suitable tool. The box takes 1.1 litres of oil and make sure it's a non EP kind as EP will mash your synchros  up. I hope you haven't drained the oil and realised you don't have the tools yet :P
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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 09:26:09 PM »
OMG I'm actually blind I didn't even see that there. Lol cheers bud. Ah that will explain why I cant find the gearbox filler. I'm used to my fiat 127 never touched a 126 before. But the 70 mile trip back was great fun.  Need to strip the carb I think and give it a clean as she takes a while to start up sometimes.

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 09:54:05 PM »
Anytime mate  ;D most people think it's the fuel cap  :o

Yeah there funny little things but a doddle to work on make sure the timings spot on as that can cause iffy starting
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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 10:07:10 PM »
How can I test the timing?  Or set it up? I been trying to find a haynes for my year 126 it's a mission.

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 10:34:27 PM »
For timing see Petes posts here..

http://club126uk.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8704.0

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 06:57:54 AM »
How can I test the timing?  Or set it up? I been trying to find a haynes for my year 126 it's a mission.

Just a quick note You won't find a haynes manual for the BIS (water cooled) as they never did one, they only covered the air cooled versions although it's a good idea to have one anyway as many other parts like the steering, suspension and brakes and although the box has a different bell housing I successfully rebuilt my BIS gearbox using a haynes manual so handy to have. Luckily Fiat did make an official workshop manual which is available on CD  :D
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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 10:27:35 AM »
Ah that will explain that then. I just wanted a manual or cd to learn more about these little engines. So I can set mime up properly as I use her everyday :)

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 02:13:26 PM »
Hi

Just out of interest what gear oil should be used if EP is a no no?

Just panicking slighly as mine is in a garage and one of the things on the job sheet is change gear oil.

eeek :o

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 03:04:00 PM »
I've got 75/90 semi synthetic so it's not thick. What my dad used in his which done the trick quite nicely.
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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 06:01:01 PM »
Hi

Just out of interest what gear oil should be used if EP is a no no?

Just panicking slighly as mine is in a garage and one of the things on the job sheet is change gear oil.

eeek :o

I use comma 75/90 semi synth in mine - the manual says 80/90 but I could only find 75/90. If it's an EP sort then it'll usually say 75/90EP on it but just check for sure. The EP stands for extra pressure (or extreme pressure) and Is not really suitable for the material that the synchro rings are made of and leads to premature failings. Even the manual says non EP so best to double check. :)
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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 09:41:57 PM »
The concern is that with any old/classic puting it into your typical local garage with limited data or knowledge or even interest in finding out things like this. i.e their not going to be too concerned about which oil they use..Ok short term from garages point of view but long something prematurely fails.

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2014, 07:43:19 PM »
I think ZC90 is the best thing to put in the gearbox.

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2014, 11:14:21 PM »
I have ordered two litres of this ZC90 stuff which I can only surmise is made from the love juices of some rare Howler Monkey.

I wouldn't mind but did FIAT deliberately make the capacity 1.1 litres just to pi55 off owners and get them to buy 2 litres since it only comes in 1 litre cans!

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Re: where does the gear box oil go please????
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2014, 06:46:00 AM »
How much are they charging for a litre of ZC90 these days