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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2014, 09:38:42 PM »
 I should have a spare bis bell housing.
 I also have a brand new set of bis pistons and rings if you decide to go down that route.

 
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2014, 09:42:30 PM »
A bell housing would be amazing :)...

I'm considering reusing these pistons at the minute but just replacing the rings... but the fact that you have them here and now is kind of a swaying factor! lol. What would you want for the bell housing? And maybe the pistons+rings?
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2014, 09:51:03 PM »
 I`ve sent you a pm.

 
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2014, 11:22:32 PM »
Right... I've placed an order with fischer 500... here we go again:

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connecting rod bearing KIT (Italy) TOP GOODS (09100)
   15,00€
[incl. 19% VAT
excl. Shipping]
   
Piston ring SET BIS 80mm (09023)
   20,00€
[incl. 19% VAT
excl. Shipping]
   
Piston pin retainer (09090)
   2,00€
[incl. 19% VAT
excl. Shipping]
   
Grease nipple (49100)
   0,30€
[incl. 19% VAT
excl. Shipping]
   
Gasket for Carburetor -Intake manifold 126BIS (13037)
   1,50€
[incl. 19% VAT
excl. Shipping]
   
Valve rod Two-Cannel Head - UNLEADED FUEL- also for 126 BIS (15101)
   0,70€
[incl. 19% VAT
excl. Shipping]
   
Timinc chain set BIS from Italy (15281)
   35,00€
[incl. 19% VAT
excl. Shipping]
   
Carburator gasket kit - 2 vacuum actuator (21191)
   25,00€
[incl. 19% VAT

Also added on another headgasket + the screw nuts they have for the exhaust manifold.

Hopefully 1973/126 has came to the rescue with a bell housing replacement for me to :). Got some fabric washers on the way from ebay to for the valve cover... So things are staying standard for now... unless I make some allegro purchases!

Lets see if it goes back together ok :).
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2014, 11:04:59 PM »
Well the engines been having its rebuild over the past couple of days (new con rod shells, new timing chain, new piston rings, deglazed cylinders, new gaskets all around and probably lots more that I've forgotten right now!) also removed the broken off bolt in the block (the head had came off and the bellhousing was broke around this area!?) and sorted a new one... today I pulled the gearbox off the car so I can get the bellhousing switched over tomorrow. Took a quick look in the gearbox and all looked sweet, drained the oil in preperation for switching it over tomorrow.

I also noticed (although I knew really from looking at them months earlier) that I need a couple of gearbox mount bushes so if anyone has any let me know! I'm also unsure on whether I need the inner driveshaft boot seal things so I need to try and locate those just in case :).

A spring appeared on the ground near me... I have no idea what it was for though to be honest... there wasn't one in the speedo drive was there perhaps? But it seems a little too large to have ever gone in there. Perhaps its there from previous work and its appeared  :-.

Will upload some pictures that I have taken over the past days asap.
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2014, 12:17:45 AM »
Forgot to mention I also managed to finally source and fit a replacement choke mechanism for the butterfly valve at the top of the carb! now working sweet as it should with all connectors as it should! :).

Trying to figure out yet another order :(. Can't seem to locate the outer driveshaft boots on axel gerstl though if anyone might be able to help?

Article description   Amount   Price   Total   
Item number: C14008
Starter end fitting/casing, front (magnetic switch) Starter end fitting/casing, front (magnetic switch)
Fiat 126P/BIS      15.00 €   15.00 €   Refresh  Delete from my shopping basket
Item number: C09001
Transmission bearing rubber piece, left Transmission bearing rubber piece, left
Fiat 126 BIS      18.90 €   18.90 €   Refresh  Delete from my shopping basket
Item number: C09001/R
Transmission bearing rubber piece, right Transmission bearing rubber piece, right
Fiat 126 BIS      18.90 €   18.90 €   Refresh  Delete from my shopping basket
Item number: C19076/K
Set of carburetor gaskets 30 S2 HR (small) Set of carburetor gaskets 30 S2 HR (small)
Fiat 126 BIS      5.00 €   5.00 €   Refresh  Delete from my shopping basket
Item number: 07008/1
Axle boot with metal bushing and radial shaft seals Axle boot with metal bushing and radial shaft seals
Fiat 500 R/126/126 BIS      5.90 €   11.80 €   Refresh
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2014, 08:03:19 AM »
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2014, 09:43:16 AM »
Thanks Lad! I did come across that spring while searching last night on some other sites but not on axel! I best check the other side to incase I need a replacement! I need to double check the drive shafts girth today with some verniers before placing an order.

Any help with replacing the inner boot would be appreciated do wonder if I could do with a replacement input shaft seal for this bell housing you sent over to as unsure if mine will be serviceable once taken out.

Earlier in the week I also received my points from the shop here :), cheers!
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2014, 10:33:29 PM »
Turns out it was from the drive shaft as I found another one on the floor over the other side today when I revisted the car! Managed to swap the bellhousing over today and going to fill her up with oil tomorrow to let the sealant cure overnight.

Wondering how to tackle mounting everything back to the car... mount gearbox and then try lift the engine... or mount them both together and try and lift/support the whole lot and frantically try and bolt things in underneath!

Anyway some pictures documenting a little now follow :).

Old con rod shell pic:

Cylinder 1 Piston (304g):

Cylinder 2 Piston (307-308g, I tried filing it down but 4 gram is too much to remove by file! lol.):

New piston pin locking ring in place:

New Timing Chain fitted:

Timing cover after a degrease (now the cleanest part of the engine and the most hidden!):

New piston rings fitted:


(now I hope thats not a crack I can see on both of those! pretty sure its just a scratch but I really hope so!)
New sump gasket:

Assembled Engine on the back garden:

Box dropped off the car and lay down for a while:

Switching the damaged bell housing over for the new one from 1973/126 (Cheers Lad!)

Much better:


(Also replaced the input shaft oil seal inside the shaft/bushing assembly as it came with the gearbox gasket kit it would be a shame not to use it! :).).

So tomorrow hopefully get my hands on some proper gearbox oil for the thing and see if I can mount it all back up for a test run... Before I order the gearbox mounts :). Any tips appreciated! I'm wondering if I can run our engine support bar diagonally across the back seats perhaps and hoist her up but don't fancy it much...

Got to get a couple of spade connectors and attempt to fix the fan as it appears one of the connections there has broken off. Also got to fit the new points and condenser on the distributor tomorrow.
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2014, 10:59:38 PM »
Proper job :)Well done for sticking with it :) :)
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2014, 11:00:56 PM »
If you have a trolley jack then it's  possible to lift the whole lot in one piece. I've done it myself before. A piece of wood to support the engine will help too.
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2014, 11:05:12 PM »
Cheers cider, trying hard but its expensive :( lol. If it doesn't go well in the end after all of this... the car will be going to an electric motor look at this beast!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9XIkscYFn0[/youtube]

And I have a lightweight aluminium clarke trolley jack that isn't great for lifting big cars... but lifts light weights easy enough. I lifted the whole engine myself earlier with the exhaust for a handle before putting it into a trolley... my back was seriously aching for a short while afterwards though out of nowhere. My dad put his back out earlier this week just lifting the block/flywheel a bit funny (I think he thought it was going to be lighter than it actually was, and the weight of the flywheel he probably wasn't expecting!). So i'm the second victim its had... I do wonder what it all weighs assembled... got to be at least 50kg surely? lol. I might bolt up the gearbox tomorrow and try and balance it all up to mount up. I'll have to have the back panel on though won't I for the engine mount? That could make things a little awquard as there will be no clearance for me to get under there :). lol.
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2014, 10:52:33 AM »
Hi Poxxxy
If you look at the picture you will see I put the car up on blocks which allowed me space to scoot around underneath without the danger of it falling off a set of axel stands, which always look a bit wobbly to me!
When I put my engine in (air cooled) I attached it to the gear box first, like Gadge, then with a piece of wood under it jacked the whole lump up together and trundled it under the car, leaving the rear panel off. Then attach the gear box mountings and any thing else you need to get at, then lastly attach the rear panel and fit the rear engine mount. Hope that helps.  

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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2014, 11:10:43 AM »
Hi Rick, certainly looks like it might be the way to do it :). Axle stands and this car are not great, especially on soft dirty ground. I'll probably return to it sunken and sitting back on its wheels today if I can locate some tutela ZC 90 or other gl 80-90w to fill the box back up with!

Things left to do to the car I can think of:
1. Rethread 2 of the threads on the gearbox mounting bolts from the left hand side.
2. Fill gearbox with oil after sourcing some
3. Find some more engine oil
4. Fit points to distributor.
5. Lift engine and box
6. Assemble the rest of it!
7. Fix leak at front of the car (brake pipe hose clip)
8. Replace a bleed nipple in the stub axle/king pin assembly
9. Fabricate/find a battery clamp.
10. Repair cooling fan connectors and probably the resistors/switches.

If it all works ok...

New gearbox mounts, outer driveshaft boot.
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Re: My 1992 126 BIS restoration project
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2014, 11:46:44 AM »
Have you tried a temporary floor by sliding cut down scaffold boards underneath? Give you a sold base to move a jack about on.