New Fiat 126 owner

[tommo10]

Hi,

I have just bought a fiat 126 for my girlfriends first car, Needs alot of work doing to it to get it up and running.

The previous owner has started fitting the fiat 'fire' engine into it, all that needs doing is an engine mount sorting, exhaust and fuel delivery.

Does anyone have any guides on here or experience with fitting the 'fire' engine in

Many thanks

Tom

[Hazey-n-Marc]

Welcome.

There have been previous discussions about this engine swap. Use the forum search and you should find them. Not sure if there are any members with a fire engine conversion though.

Marc

[DeVilleChris]

welcome to the forum, sounds adventurous. Good luck with it

[dajwid]

This is a very popular swap. I assume that you are only planning on using the car for track use as there is very little chance of the car passing tests to be used on the road in the UK.

http://www.budowaswapow.com/nas/sebcyc/4.jpg

This company will supply all the mounting parts you need

http://www.budowaswapow.com/

http://www.budowaswapow.com/index.php?id=sklep/swap/swap

You will also need to change over to a disk brake conversion.

[tommo10]

This is a very popular swap. I assume that you are only planning on using the car for track use as there is very little chance of the car passing tests to be used on the road in the UK.

http://www.budowaswapow.com/nas/sebcyc/4.jpg

This company will supply all the mounting parts you need

http://www.budowaswapow.com/

http://www.budowaswapow.com/index.php?id=sklep/swap/swap

You will also need to change over to a disk brake conversion.

Hi

Thanks for the reply and info, Well i was hoping to use it on the road too, why such little chance is passing mot?

Many thanks

Tom

[Hazey-n-Marc]

Thanks for the reply and info, Well i was hoping to use it on the road too, why such little chance is passing mot?

If you have done engine swaps or major modification before you will probably be ok, you will know the criteria needed to re register and test the car,  but we do have a lot of people coming on here saying "I've just got a 126 and I want to put a bigger engine in it", these often end up as a failed/cut about project on ebay which is only really good for a few parts or track use. I think we have three members with successfull/completed engine swap projects. There were about five failed projects up for sale the other month.
We just don't want to see another car turned to scrap, so if you can do it, brilliant, be nice to see done well, if you're not sure, have a good think first.

Marc

[tommo10]

The previous owner bought it for spares but kept it in storage, the owner before him started the conversion already.
The plate for the gearbox has been done and the frame mounting has been done, just needs an engine mount from the engine to the frame, the sump is a little low for my liking

Other than that it hasn't had that much cut out etc, I shall get some pictures up soon so you can give me a clue, would love to keep it back on the road, was last on the road in 2009 so not that long ago

[Hazey-n-Marc]

hudson Henry has a fire engined 126, think he is up your way. Might be worth giving him a shout, he doesn't seem to be on here that often.

Marc

[1973/126]

 I think if anything the rules and regulations in the UK regarding car modifications are probably more relaxed than many other EU countries.
 We are talking about relatively small changes here and I think if it`s done sensibly and safe you shouldn`t have a problem.
 Just check this one out of interest.
 
Date of Liability   01 10 2013
Date of First Registration   26 03 1974
Year of Manufacture   Not Available
Cylinder Capacity (cc)   5700cc
CO2 Emissions   Not Available
Fuel Type   PETROL
Export Marker   N
Vehicle Status   SORN Not Due
Vehicle Colour   RED
Vehicle Type Approval   Not Available
Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate   Â£123.75
12 Months Rate   Â£225.00

 A well known Fiat 126 drag car on it`s original registration. Have you noticed the cc?

[dajwid]

Taz Racing 

[thepuddlejumper]

That was fine back then, it all depends on how much you have modified the chassis.  Things have changed a lot in the last few years with putting home built cars on the road.  If major works which could include cutting holes in the front panel, then you may need to go through the biva. If that is the case you may need to prove the age of the engine you are fitting by supplying the reg of the car it came from, this is what is written down in the test manual.  If you cant prove the age by this method then the engine has to pass today's emission tests.  I am in the middle of building a trike from lots of bits and have read the manual several times and there still are some areas where I will need to read over.  It may be different if you are only fitting an alternative engine and send off the log book with the new engine number.  I did this for a diesel engine I fitted to an old rang rover some years ago.  All I had to do was supply an engineers report on the fitment of the engine.  I also did the same for my 500 when I fitted the 126 652cc with not a question raised.  If I were you I would visit the VOSA site and check out what you may need to comply with as things are changing all the time.  Also go to online street rodding clubs or retro rides to get up to date advice as these guys are modifying all the time.  Hope this helps.

Ralph