Author Topic: Car won't start (Read 13229 times)

Bruce · « **on:** March 30, 2006, 04:37:27 PM »

Just tried to start my Bis, but after about 10 mins cranking it still would not start, normally i have no problem starting it after the fuel has been pumped up to the carb. To be honest i can't remeber when it was last run. but the sticker in the window informs me the MOT will run out in Feb 2005. I have run it around the yard since then and i apretty sure I have started it this winter although my memory is not what it used to be. The brakes where replaced for the last MOT and the fuel pump was replaced this century and is a sealed unit. The petrol is a few years old not sure if it can go off (i must check there is some in there next time i am down the garage), but i could not smell any even after the 10 mins cranking. The garage is dry.

Chris Lakin · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2006, 05:12:05 PM »

sounds like no fuel is getting to carb, i know it sounds silly but makusure thers petrol in the tank, ive tried starting it on an empty tank sounds like what uve described.

otherwise i think its ur pump??

im sure someone else will give you some better advice.

regards

Chris

Bruce · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2006, 05:38:19 PM »

cheers i'll have to check that petrol thing, wasn't quite sure if they needed it because it did not seem to use any, in fact i can't remeber putting any in for quite a few years

I know when i first got it, it stopped working after a few months so i just left it in the garage for about 4 years with the battery disconected, i eventually decided to get it going and after checking everthing else come to the conclusion that it needed a new pump, i put it in and reconcted the batery and it started. Come to think it it acted in just the same way then as it is now.

Do Fiat still do spares for the Bis?

paul harbinson. · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2006, 08:13:24 AM »

Bruce a quick job to get it going is to jury rig a gravity feed fuel tank.It's more than likly to be the pump .

Bruce · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2006, 10:40:53 AM »

I'll try and get down to look at it today, if it is the pump I'll have to try FIAT to see if i can get a new one. can't be anything big because it was running fine a few months ago, besides i've just gone and bought a new set of wheels for it, so would hate for it to be beyond economic rapair as i also have the bits i need to make it pristine.

Bruce · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2006, 02:39:33 PM »

well just got some good news, i can get a fuel pump from my local auto factors, they have one in stock

going down to double check that i have fuel in the tank. I'll take my camara down with me and take some photos

Bruce · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2006, 04:15:35 PM »

Yea had fuel, so bought the new pump, and i also got an inline filter this time. so hopefully that will make the pump last a bit longer

Tried the FIAT dealer first but they did not have one, there is one on ebay but that is in malta. My ambition is to get the car on the road for summer.

paul harbinson. · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2006, 08:39:37 AM »

Come on my son you can do it :wink:

maxlee · « **Reply #8 on:** April 23, 2006, 03:31:50 AM »

fuel dose go off top it up with some fresh if the othere stuff is a fue years old

Bruce · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2006, 03:56:54 PM »

I've bought a filter for the pipe, i'll fit that first and i will be able to see if any fuel is getting through before i do anything else.

wallopadonkey · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2006, 06:38:02 PM »

it wont work if u just check the filter u need to take off the output from the pump to check if it working

my inline filter was full of fuel so i thought it was pumping but when the output was taken off nowt and the filter has a 1 way valve in it

Bruce · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2006, 07:32:06 PM »

well the whole system is dry at the moment so the filter will be empty untill the fuel is drawn up, so i'll know if the pump is sucking or not.

wallopadonkey · « **Reply #12 on:** April 24, 2006, 07:45:37 AM »

ok sorry

Bruce · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2006, 02:33:16 PM »

next part of the story; put a filter in the fuel line and cranked it over a few times (quite a lot actually), still no sign of petrol, so remove old pump (genuine sealed unit FIAT jobbie). the old pump is not siezed and infact when i inverted it had petrol within, but as it was off anyway i decided to put the new pump on anyway, cranked it over again but still no luck. there is definatly petrol in the tank as i can smell it and the fuel gauge is still showing 1/4 full. next job i think is going to be the purchase of a petrol can and try putting more in there as the gauge could be wrong and i am only smelling fumes. I've got a spare pump now anyways

Chris Lakin · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2006, 02:39:52 PM »

try a new pump rod, if this has worn then you wont get any petrol,

im having maor pribs at mo, just renewed fuel lines, and had to put a new pump on, doesnt want to start and it plutters and makes horrible noises from the exhaust

im a bit worried to be honest.

regards

Chris