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laura126

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Pcd queries.. Starmags
« on: March 01, 2013, 11:38:35 AM »
Will 4x100 alloys fit the 4x98 i have some starmags that i gor for 30 quid so im really want them to fittttt!

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 02:46:34 PM »
WOW £30  :o Yeah they should fit with wobble bolts! it all depends on the offset

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 04:46:08 PM »
Surprised? If so, then I would love to see a picture. Wonder how they look like.

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 11:20:14 PM »
They won't fit unless you use adapters or wobble bolts, the latter I wouldn't touch as they're said to be pretty dodgy...

But above all those please don't fit them as they will look RUBBISH on a 126
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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 11:59:06 PM »
Some members use wobble bolts and have no problems. Think the offset ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_(wheel) ) might be too far out on starmags though.

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 12:25:59 AM »
They won't fit unless you use adapters or wobble bolts, the latter I wouldn't touch as they're said to be pretty dodgy...

But above all those please don't fit them as they will look RUBBISH on a 126

Nothing wrong with wobble bolts when correct spigot rings are fitted me thinks. It only gives 1mm play for tapper on bolt to sit in correct place and tighten it up.

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 01:06:27 AM »
If they're torqued up correctly they'd probably be ok. I'd never use them myself as I always have crazy camber with suspension so low it's bottomed out. Spigot rings are only there to assist the lining up on the wheel bolt holes when changing the wheel so that wouldn't make a difference. The weight of cars are not solely rolling on little plastic rings which aren't even needed, it's all a myth!
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filancia

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 07:25:17 AM »
Wobble bolts are fine as long as the centre bore of the wheel matches or can be matched to the hub, either with spiggot rings or machine the wheels/hub to suit the bore.

Wheels must sit on the spiggot of the hub as thats what takes the weight, the nuts just secure it in place. If you hold the wheel on with only the nuts then its not going to sit concentric to the hub, cause adverse strain on the nuts holding it on and cause the car to drive funny.

The wobble bolt has been used for years, the one thing to remember is if you are getting any work done to the car tell not to tighten them up with a gun as thats when damage gets done.

kev126

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 03:56:08 PM »
The wheel gets centered by the tapered bolts/nuts. When tightened the hub won't even be touching centre of the wheel... For that to happen the wheel centre would need to be such a tight fit that it would be impossible for the average person to push and pull a wheel off.

Myself and others have ran, even DIY bored out when to fit our cars where you can get a finger inbetween the gap. Didn't use spigots as they weren't needed, but I will admit lining up the bolt holes was a pain!
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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 06:55:46 PM »
Had wobble bolts on my alloys for years now and the rear wheels do not rest on the centre of the hub and I have had 100% no problems at all!
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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 08:20:48 AM »
well that's the point in the spiggot in the middle of the wheel so it centres the wheel, yes the taper is there to seat the wheels but honestly for the point of a £10 to know your wheel is centred i don't see the point in not doing it.

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 05:01:25 PM »
Picture! :P

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Re: Pcd queries.. Starmags
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2013, 09:04:19 PM »
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