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richard

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« on: November 13, 2005, 05:52:05 PM »
hello there, as you know ive just aquired a fiat 126 fsm  . and i am in the process of exchanging the engine , i will need off the engine thats in the car the carb, and distributer and thats it ( touch wood)


i just wanted to know is the distributer the same as the fiat 500 engine?

as i have many dizzie caps and rotor arms but they all for the fiat 500 i have ??


please help me, anyhelp would be great

all the best

richard

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2005, 02:39:11 PM »
Richard
Unfortunately the 126 and 500 distributors are very different! One has a gear drive (126) and the other is a slot type drive (500)
I think the contact points, condenser and cap are compatible though?

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2005, 05:55:48 PM »
thank you for the info i will look into it

reguartds

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2005, 07:03:28 PM »
I have 126 Bis water cooled. Their are two makes of dist's for this model Marelli and Zeltek. Today I bought a set of points and condensor as standby's. According to his manual nearly every model of 126 differs. Actually these came from England, Intermotor of Nottingham. hope it may help.

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2005, 09:15:55 PM »
Richard, the FSM does not have a distribuor cap as such or a rotor arm. The cap is just a dust cover and inside are just points. The coil is a twin coil which uses the wasted spark method, there are two leads from the coil, one to each plug. If you are replacing the FSM engine with an engine from another type of 126 then be aware the ignition is very different. Of cousre it will work with your new engine but note all the wiring on the FSM lump first and where it all goes!
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ignition???? coil??? engine mount???
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2005, 09:59:31 PM »
i have noticed that my fiat 126 fsm has it seems to be electronic ignition ??

i have some photos if someone can list them on the website for me??

i dont have a coil?? ..  or distributer??    . but i have a hole where the disributer was? if it is electnic ignition wont the old dizzie hole need to be blanked off in some way ??

or can it just be left???



(Pictures added by C.Lakin)

the part no for the weird ignition thingy is ( intermotor 12604 )

also what size bolt is the engine mount/coil spring please?

as my engine is nearlly out apart from this pescky bolt??

help me please

all the best

richard

p.s i will post the ignition pics at : http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/riche100/album?.dir=/5ea9&.src=ph&.tok=phydl7DBPNaLKsgy

anyhep would be great[/img]

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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2005, 10:17:21 PM »
i have found out the engine mount bolt is 19mm and it needs quite a bit of leverage to shift it :)


also after reading the posts i realise that my questions have already been answered so thank you

reguards

richard


p.s one more question will a fiat 500 condensor work on my 126 fsm dizzie?

or i think i have a fiat 126 condensor for a coil type ignigtion will this work if i did have one?

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2005, 09:34:59 AM »
not sure re the condenser, I should try your local motor factor before trying yours. So you dont have a 126 FSM distributor then? That funny thing you mention in the photos is the coil btw.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2005, 06:41:57 PM »
hello there just to say i was told it was 19mm . but mine isnt ??

it appears mine is 16mm , so i have sent my poor old father back to his work to get me a socket and along bar for tomorrow night . i will let you know


btw i do have a distributer  . i just doint have the domed cap. however i am just going to use a old dizzie cap .

i will check about the consenor at motor factors

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2005, 10:08:57 PM »
boy o boy have i had some trouble with my engine mounting bolt????

i was told it was 16mm .  and i tried a 16 and it didnt fit???

i tried hammering it onto the bolt and still no joy .

15 was way too small  16" was small

17 was too big ??


anyhow after about 1 hour of swearing and a lot of thought i magaged to move the blasted engine mounting bolt , only to find it didnt come loose it just span on its axis ????????????????????????????????????????


so i decided to take off the two bolts one on either side of the engine mount, just set back from the mount, and hey presto the engine is now detached from the gearbox

however i now just have to take the back off the car for easy removel of the engine . as lighter it might be but still too heavy for me to lift


are the bolts on the rear left/right had side bumper panel 13mm ??

as mine are well rusted and long bolts?

so guess i need a long socket shaft etc?

anyhelp tonight would be great

please get in touch

regaurds

richard

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Re: trouble with the engine
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2005, 10:30:42 PM »
Quote from: "richard"

are the bolts on the rear left/right had side bumper panel 13mm ??

as mine are well rusted and long bolts?

so guess i need a long socket shaft etc?

anyhelp tonight would be great

please get in touch

regaurds

richard

Richard I am not sure on the bumper size bolts? But one thing worth getting instead of your standard socket are the hexagon type sockets! They are much better for removing things and they dont round off the heads. Well worth investing in...
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2005, 08:28:31 AM »
engine removed and back off  :D

i will post some pictures later today if i can or i will post a link .

my day off today so im gonna try and do a bit to it


all the best
and thanks for your help

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2005, 06:43:07 PM »
hi richard.i dont know if the 126s were imperial patterns like 3/8 and so on :???: ,they might be metric (like 10mm)i dont know but it might be worth a try anyway.hope this helps. :wink:

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2005, 10:40:09 PM »
its all metric on all 126s :wink:
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2005, 02:51:08 PM »
even on the early fiat 126????????????