THE VINEGAR CLEANING SOUND INTERESTING... I HAVE NEVER TRIED IT... IN AUSTRIA THEY PUT THE PARTS IN A BIG PLASTIC TUB AND TURN ON THE BATTERY CHARGER ( 220V ) TO 50 AMPS .. TALK AB0UT BUBBLES.. THE BAKING SODA WORKS WITH ALL THE OLD BUZZARDS WHO COLLECT HIT AND MISS ENGINES THAT HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE FIELDS FOR 40 YEARS( ENGINES THAT IS)..GIVE IT ENOUGH TIME IN THE TUB AND IT WILL REMOVE ALL RUST FROM THE PART AND NEVER DAMAGE GOOD METAL..IN THE USA I BUY AND SELL CHEMICIAL FOR DETAILING .. I BUY 5 GALLON PAILS OF ACID (FLORIDE TYPE) YOU CAN BRING RUSTY METAL PARTS TO WHITE METAL CLEAN .. IT ALSO EATS ONLY RUST... NOT GOOD METAL...I DID RUIN A SET OF TRIUMPH MOTORCYCLE TUBES BY LEAVING THEM IN OVER NIGHT . THERE IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF METAL USED ON THE BRAZED ON PARTS... GONE THEY WERE ...I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I SAW. I WAS IN TEARS. AND I STILL HAVE THOSE PARTS IN THE GARAGE TO REMIND ME TRIUMPH FORK TUBES ARE A NO NO...BY THE WAY YOU MUST GIVE CHROME WHEEL CLEANING ACID TONS OF RESPECT BECAUSE THE FLORIDES IN THE JUICE WILL PENATRATE YOUR SKIN AND EAT THE CALCIUM OUT OF YOUR BONES...NOT GOOD ALL ACIDS MUST SHOW IF THEY HAVE FLORIDES... RUBBER GLOVES ARE A MUST , , EYE , NOSE , SKIN. PROTECTION ARE A MUST. WHEN YOUR DONE RINSE THE PARTS AND DRY .AT THIS POINT USE CHASSIS SAVOR PAINT.. YOU CAN BUY IT ON EBAY . IT TURNS IN TO POWDER COATING TUFF PAINT.. SEALS ANY FLASH RUST PERMINANTLY . YOU CAN SMACK IT WITH A HAMMER AND IT WONT CHIP.. I DO MY BODY WORK WITH THE PAINT ON THE PARTS FOR LONG TIME CONSUMING PROJECTS ... OH OH IM RATTLING ON . I BEST STOP FOR A SHOT OF GRAPPA AND COFFEE...LEO