Author Topic: how low...... is low?? (Read 12593 times)

hudsonhenry · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:15:02 PM »

Dave

Was it air cooled or BIS springs that you cut down (is there any difference?)

How much did you cut off?

I have just had my rear arches on the 500 rolled so now have the extra clearence to lower.

Did you have any problems seating the cut down spring? Presumably the springs are stiffer now they have been shortened.

Nigel

126dave · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:23:52 PM »

hi Nigel,well,interesting that you ask if any diff,the bis and aircooled i have looked the same,but could be different ratings,i used bis ones(better nick),and with the spring on the bench, i measured 15cm and cut them,it works out around 1 1/2 coils,i then ground down the cut end for a seating area.

it does seem stiffer,but that could be ''sticker '' tuning.....you know,all in the head.....................but it deff goes thro the turns better,no hint of tuck in now,with the lower front end(reverse eye/cut blocks and the neg camber top links) i had it started to turn in quick and catch the back end out....thats now gone,all in all a good mod,and my turbo 1 sport -30mm coils will now be for sale.....good for some one who just wants a mild lowering :wink:

hudsonhenry · « **Reply #17 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:41:22 PM »

how much u looking for?

Nigel

126dave · « **Reply #18 on:** July 02, 2007, 07:04:56 PM »

with lowered suspension do you/should you adjust the rear tracking?,i assume fiat did not allow for continued use at what is fully loaded (perhaps more) suspension hights?...both my 126's have jiggled on wet roads when one or other of the rears goes over a slippy drain cover,as if there is too much toe in...........it does not inspire confidence to push on !! dry is perfecto tho..... :cool:

i should add neither car did this before being lowered

bis13 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 02, 2007, 07:37:37 PM »

the only thing i would think is to replicate the angles that were the original but with the lower suspension but that will probably not be achievable so its a case of finding the best of both worlds . when you think about it the level that the car is sitting is not a workable height as this is really a show car height and is achieved by lowering the coilovers that they fit to get this height however when they actually drive the car the coilovers are adjusted to a sensible level .

126dave · « **Reply #20 on:** July 02, 2007, 07:50:45 PM »

mm yes,but the 126/500 must be drivable with low suzzies?..plenty people have done it,including a certain mr abarth?,this is old tuning,nothing new,i just wonder if its the old sell them the stuff dont give em the details trick..like panda head/sport exhaust/cams.............im happy to share the details,it seems many are not :

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i reckon there is a tried tech with this,id love to know.....a sweetish handling 126/500 should be easy to achieve,(allowing for the rear weight bias of course) if the info was availible as is for escorts/minis etc....

bis13 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 03, 2007, 07:43:25 AM »

i agree with what you say but the amount that the car has been lowered is way below any sort of abarth height. look at any race car and you can always see all the tyre if you go to low you just loose any movement in the suspension and as you know makes the car jump and skip all over the shop. nearly all the peeps who sell after market coils only go down to about 17cm and they are uprated if you cut down a stock spring to 15cm it isnt going to perform well. but on the bright side they look uber cool so get down to your local fast food outlet this friday nite

126dave · « **Reply #22 on:** July 03, 2007, 09:18:18 AM »

thing is,i was using normal lowered springs before,only now am i using realyy cut down rears..........................both types gave me the jiggle....... :wink:

bis13 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 03, 2007, 06:21:26 PM »

well in that case it must be that your a crap driver....

you can adjust the rear but its a nightmare i have a few manuals that explain the geometry but its all for standard height so you will have to recalculate as the height will throw all the angles out are your back wheels sitting toe in ? my suggestion is to take your car to a garage that has all the electronic equipment and get them to adjust it all exactly to how you require it used to be about 50 notes a few years ago and you get a nice graph printout to put on your wall of your garage to boot.

126dave · « **Reply #24 on:** July 03, 2007, 06:44:17 PM »

me prob just a crap driver mick !!!......

martini gasolini · « **Reply #25 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:45:59 AM »

Hello!

My name is Martin,i live in Norway and this is my 126.
10cm drop and 13" Minilites makes it look groovy i think!
Looking forward to hang around this nice forum!

Best regards

bis13 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 09, 2007, 06:38:00 AM »

martin thats nice!

big_al · « **Reply #27 on:** November 09, 2007, 07:56:48 AM »

sweet ride Martin !!!!

is it legal with no bumpers?

martini gasolini · « **Reply #28 on:** November 09, 2007, 04:17:56 PM »

Thanks!

sweet ride Martin !!!!

is it legal with no bumpers?

Eh,i forgot to ask

I have been to the MOT 2 times with it,they did not complain about the bumpers.
I was thinking about putting some pictures and tech in the Garage section,but i can`t find it!
Can anyone direct me?

Martini Gasolini

jazz · « **Reply #29 on:** November 09, 2007, 05:11:26 PM »

Quote from: "martini gasolini"

Thanks!

sweet ride Martin !!!!

is it legal with no bumpers?

Eh,i forgot to ask
I have been to the MOT 2 times with it,they did not complain about the bumpers.
I was thinking about putting some pictures and tech in the Garage section,but i can`t find it!
Can anyone direct me?

Martini Gasolini

Garage location is on the top logo "Garage" or direct link http://fiat126club.co.uk/forum/garage.php

P.s that's a lovely 126 you have :smt049