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AlleyNiki

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Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« on: April 16, 2011, 04:47:39 AM »
Hi all,

Ever since I bought my 126, (1989 aircooled) my foot has always been hurting due to the excessively stiff clutch. I'm wondering if this is 'normal' for the 126?

Just as a side note, I am not a big guy, I weigh 64kg and have rather bony, flat feet, so that little clutch pedal digs in. (But it doesn't hurt my wife's foot..)

 I have since bolted a larger surface plate onto the pedal to spread out the pressure evenly on my foot.

Any possible ideas for making the clutch lighter to press?

Thanks guys,

Alastair.

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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 06:35:55 PM »
I know what you mean :(

It seams to be the Italian sense off humour because in the eraly days even there Ferraris had 200 ton clutches.

Yes this is normal, but you can lightern the clutch pedal from the drivers point off view by fitting a new clutch from a 126 water cooled bis. This will bolt straight into place with no other mods needed and will be lighter like a modern car. Only draw back you will have to remove the engine to do it :cry:
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AlleyNiki

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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2011, 06:45:06 PM »
I know what you mean :(

It seams to be the Italian sense off humour because in the eraly days even there Ferraris had 200 ton clutches.

Yes this is normal, but you can lightern the clutch pedal from the drivers point off view by fitting a new clutch from a 126 water cooled bis. This will bolt straight into place with no other mods needed and will be lighter like a modern car. Only draw back you will have to remove the engine to do it :cry:

OK, so you mean get the diaphragm spring and clutch plate? Will I need anything else from the BIS?

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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 06:54:49 PM »
Just get the complete clutch kit and thats all you need, As a bonus the clutch is bigger and more robust
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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2011, 06:59:57 PM »
Nice, thanks!

Soon I will no longer want to chop my foot off.


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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 06:33:01 AM »
That looks to be the wrong kit or the wrong picture, Here's a link for the Bis clutch, the info's in the link.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Clutch-Kit-inc-Bearing-Fiat-126-0-7-87-92-/160490864946?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item255e004132

Here's what it should look like :)
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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2011, 07:50:41 AM »
Wait.. your picture includes the flywheel. Do I need a new flywheel as well?

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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 08:27:51 AM »
No, It fits the 650 flywheel as Steve mentioned above :thumbup
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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2011, 10:43:09 AM »
 I recently order a complete bis clutch kit for one of my air cooleds. I haven`t fitted it yet. I noticed the release bearing is slightly different, but it looks like it will fit ?
 Also I only paid about £20,- for it on eBay, so over 60,-Euros seems a bit expensive...
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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2011, 09:41:50 PM »
I have recently bought two 126 bis clutch kit from ebay, approx £15 + £5 delivery for both.  I bought them because they are stronger and have springs in the friction plate, so it's not as sharp on the uptake. This clutch also fits other vehicles I will see if I can dig out the other applications, can be cheaper for other marks.

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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2011, 12:02:58 AM »
having worked on 126s & others for long enough!
try putting a extention spacer on the cable "outter" cable, about 38mm long, where it mounts to the gear box," done nicley thou" , this will give the outer cable more of an arch, wich will make it softer & lighter, with no efect to the operation of the original clutch,


d'ont forget to adjust the  free play on the inner cable !

" it works" & i'ts cheep!!
 

 



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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2011, 01:18:07 AM »
having worked on 126s & others for long enough!
try putting a extention spacer on the cable "outter" cable, about 38mm long, where it mounts to the gear box," done nicley thou" , this will give the outer cable more of an arch, wich will make it softer & lighter, with no efect to the operation of the original clutch,


d'ont forget to adjust the  free play on the inner cable !

" it works" & i'ts cheep!!
 
OK, so do you mean attaching an arm on the gearbox to push the cable out a bit? Not sure what you mean by 'spacer'. :)
 




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Re: Very stiff clutch hurts my foot - normal?
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2011, 08:21:34 AM »
if you put an extention,about 38mm long on the outter cable,to create a hump in it. where the outter is fixed to the gearbox!!