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126redbomb

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bis Carburetor seal
« on: March 18, 2017, 12:35:10 AM »
Hello again.  The top seal of the carburetor is split. I know I can get one from Ricambio, fiat part no: 7612174 for £23.94 plus postage (£7.14 for p & p is a bit O.T.T don't you think, when it will fit in an envelope) maybe I'm just tight.. :$ 
Does anybody know, anywhere else I could get one from plus I really could do with a new top tank (thing).
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Colin

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 01:17:26 AM »
Ricambio is well known for its ... er, shall we say, "ambitious" pricing, and not just on delivery charges. Have you tried the maybe 7 or 8 other UK suppliers? Or at least 4 I can think of across Europe - Gerstl, 126fan, Piotross and there's another one whose name esacapes me, plus assorted others in Italy that folks on here have dealt with very happily. Have you checked out the Forum section on recommended suppliers? Go to the main Forum index and look under "Fiat 126 Chat" for Reputable Companies. Remember that older postings may have information that is now rather out of date.

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2017, 09:49:51 AM »
Thier not a very good company to deal with in my experience. Apart from the ricuously high prices for things there customer service is pants. I bought a window winder regulator off them a while back which broke so after ringing them up they would dispatch a new one until I sent the old one back so had to buy another one then once I did send it back they never refunded me anyway  >:(

Head gasket set tend to have them in and If you are lucky to find one on eBay it is possible to buy a complete genuine fiat head gasket set for around the same price as ricambio sell that one part or buy a rubber sheet of eBay and cut your own. I ended up doing this with mine
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126redbomb

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2017, 10:03:55 PM »
Cheers :good:  I have a quick look around and I can't find a carburetor seal anywhere other than Ricambio.  If you could get your thinking caps on and try and remember who else I could try ;D  I don't know any Italian sites I can try :$

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2017, 11:26:06 PM »
I'm not sure which particular gasket it is you want, but Gerstl have loads for the bis:

https://webshop.fiat500126.com/katalog/artikelinfo/6406/carburetor-cover-gasket-30-dgf

and also scroll down to see the list of related items and what other customers have bought, etc. Assuming you have the Weber 30DGF then Gerstl list all the parts that Ricambio list, as far as I can see from a first glance. Don't be afraid to deal with a firm overseas, most of them speak perfectly fine English, Gerstl certainly do.

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2017, 11:38:54 PM »
It's the carb to air filter seal that 126redbomb is after.
No harm in sending a message to Axel Gerstl to see if he can assist or you can try Ebay for any 126 Bis being broken.

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2017, 11:46:32 PM »
Hi Chris. Yes I need the rubber seal/gasket and the thing on top (what ever its called) Cheers drcdb15 too

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2017, 12:03:52 AM »
If you are also after the air filter box your best option will probably be to try to locate someone breaking a Bis.

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2017, 10:19:54 PM »
I still can't find anywhere else who sell the seal :cry:

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2017, 12:20:31 PM »
You can make your own if you want to - if you also have the air filter housing. Clean up the mating faces of both the carb and the housing, then wrap both tightly in cling film. Spread a good quality silicone sealant (I would recommend Dow Corning 791 black as a starting point, about a fiver from Toolstation/Screwfix) around the mating face of the carb (on top of the cling film) and then gently but firmly press the housing onto the carb. Give it a GENTLE twist back and forth about an inch, JUST ONCE to spread the sealant without squeezing it out all over the place. Don't ram the housing down hard, don't bolt it up tight, just let it rest gently in place overnight.

Next day, preferably a full 24 hours later, even better if you can leave it a weekend, take it all apart and peel off the cling film. The sealant may still be a bit tacky, so leave it another day if you can to cure fully, then you can trim off any rough edges, and there's your gasket.

These sealants cure by giving off acetic acid vapour (vinegar) so the looser you can leave the housing on the carb the better, as this will leave a wider un-sealed edge for the vapour to evaporate through. Once the outer edges of the gasket have skinned enough to allow handling you can remove the housing, but the core of the sealant will still be liquid-ish, so leave as long as you can for full evaporation/curing. The longer you can leave it the more robust the gasket and the more easily it can be handled.

These sealants are also designed to be ADHESIVES, so do NOT be tempted just to use sealant directly on the carb/housing, or next time you want to remove the housing you'll find yourself cutting it off with a Stanley knife!

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2017, 06:55:14 PM »
You can make your own if you want to

I like your plan and the next time i need some thing like this i shall give it a try  :good:
Dave

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2017, 08:29:40 PM »
reading this post, out of the corner of my right eye I can see a new seal on garage wall!

I bloody knew I had one, leave a message on 0113 2529451 with address you can have it

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Re: bis Carburetor seal
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2017, 08:14:58 AM »
 These must be like busses as I`ve also found two new ones in my garage. Still in original Fiat packaging. ;D
1972 Fiat 500
1980 Fiat 126