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Fiat 126 Chat => Fiat 126 Mechanical Problem Solving => Topic started by: slammed 66 on May 20, 2006, 01:06:45 PM

Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 20, 2006, 01:06:45 PM: Hi guys. Does any1 know the standard compression ratio of a '87 aircooled? :cool:
Title: Compression
Post by: Chris Lakin on May 20, 2006, 01:23:33 PM: hi m8 welcome to the forum,

http://www.fiat126.info/specs.html

this is a great site for specs on models. but it didnt show compression ratio for late fsm aircooleds. see below.

compression ratio is:

"May 1985 UK models get 8.0:1 650E engine"

regards

Chris
Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 20, 2006, 01:31:24 PM: Thanks for that mate, and the welcome :)

Thats quite low compression so with just a bit of head work we should easily be running 10psi of boost.
Has any one else on here turbod there 126?
Title: Compression
Post by: Chris Lakin on May 20, 2006, 01:53:42 PM: yes let me find the post for u 2 secs
Title: Compression
Post by: Chris Lakin on May 20, 2006, 01:54:32 PM: here is the post

http://www.fiat126.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 20, 2006, 02:06:17 PM: Cool! A draw through setup! So i should hopefully be the first with a blow through with intercooler then :twisted:

Thanks again
Title: Compression
Post by: PaulB on May 20, 2006, 02:12:33 PM: You mean a fan? They come as standard! :D
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 20, 2006, 06:19:33 PM: trust me nearly every type of mod has been done from Honda to chevy, to ducatti, to Yamaha, lumps, 1500 turbos, 900 turbos from unos original engines bored to 740cc and injected, turbo. the 126 racing scene is huge over here.
Many thousands of engines have died along the way,But good luck anyway.
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 20, 2006, 08:05:39 PM: Sorry change that, engines bored to 812cc.

Here is a Polish 126 turbo
http://www.autogargas.pl/galeria_5.html

Here is one from Hungry Very nice
http://hvtm.totalcar.hu/index.php3?ID=9000&carID=4020

If any one wants to just say they have a turbo on their 126 I can post them one.
Have you seen the little turbo that fits under the Carb it is supposed to add power and save petrol.
I have a couple but have never bothered to fit them.
just PM me 1st person wins a turbo!!!
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 20, 2006, 08:08:13 PM: My guess is William will be 1st :lol:
Title: Compression
Post by: 126dave on May 20, 2006, 08:46:49 PM: i just want to get that '70's feel from mine,why bother mucking about with a 126 if you want to go quick?.......get a bike(most car drivers hvint a clue how quick they are).............................even my '95 urban tiger is as quick as any ferrari................im tryng to keep the character whilst going a little quicker,thats my goal.
turbo/shmurbo,.........stuff a small block chevy in if you need speed,or just buy a scooby an be done with it,........just leave a small defensless (fast disapearing)aircooled 126 alone.
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 20, 2006, 09:02:54 PM: My thaught exactly. There are tons of really cheap fast cars about why try to turbo charge a 650cc engine if you (aparrently) have:

1990 skyline gtr
1993 renault 5 turbo powered van
1978 mini pick up
1978 vw camper turbod
1966 vw camper soon to be turbo
1986 bmw 325 sport

Sitting in the garage.

Sound like pie in the sky to me.

I understand racing them, It is a cheap way into motorsports.
But they don't allow such tuning in most of the groups anyway.
Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 21, 2006, 06:58:34 AM: Quote from: "dajwid"
if you (aparrently) have:

1990 skyline gtr
1993 renault 5 turbo powered van
1978 mini pick up
1978 vw camper turbod
1966 vw camper soon to be turbo
1986 bmw 325 sport

Sitting in the garage.

Sound like pie in the sky to me.
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(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture061.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture062.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture063.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture038.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture039.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture036.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture030.jpg) (when it used to be on twin 44idfs)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/herman.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture006.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture005.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture004.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e91/TURBOHEARSE/Picture003.jpg)

Thanks mate. Heres your pie in the sky. Would you like me to get some pics of the mini pick up for you aswell seeing as i missed that one out as you might not beleive me about that one. Alternatively you could try here http://www.retrocarclub.co.uk/rcc/index.php where you will find i am the 4th highest posting member on the site and everyone on there will verify the collection of cars i currently own. Or should i say APPARANTLY own. You will also find that one of this sites users HUDSON HENRY is a registered user of the retro car club site. Maybe he could verify this for you.
I can understand that if you hadnt met me before that it would sound a bit of a tall story but please dont judge someone before you get to know them and then go all cockish about it.
And to answer... why try to turbo a 650 if you apparantly own........... Why not? Same reason i turbod my renault van that i apparantly own or the 78 baywindow that i apparantly own.
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 21, 2006, 10:40:17 AM: Why a 126? Very strange car to pick, why not a 500, better known for being tuned.

Very often VW cylinders are used when tuning 126 engines. So your VW experience will be handy.
I will try to find the site. It is in Polish but I can have a go at translating the basics.

Strange that a member of the retro car club would wan't to tune a 126. Why not retro?
Title: Compression
Post by: ChrisRLewis on May 21, 2006, 10:43:45 AM: Some nice motors you have there! I for one wish you all the best with the turbo project, it sounds good. Don't forget to take pics and some of the members can then eat their hats :smt116
Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 21, 2006, 10:44:30 AM: Why a 126 rather than a 500? Easy.. theyre cheaper and more modern :D

I tend to get my kicks from making generally slow cars quicker in a street sleeper kind of way hence the lust for tuning a 126.

Id be gratefull if you could find some links for me.
Thanks
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 21, 2006, 10:44:40 AM: according to the page, garage you have not actually modified any of your cars.
Or have you just not updated your posts?
Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 21, 2006, 10:45:55 AM: Quote from: "cars"
Some nice motors you have there! I for one wish you all the best with the turbo project, it sounds good. Don't forget to take pics and some of the members can then eat their hats :smt116

Thanks i will do but ive gotta find a cheap base car to start with...... oh well ebay ahoy :D
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 21, 2006, 10:51:22 AM: Lowering is dead easy, handling is rock hard. Improving steering is dead easy.
Engine the normal route is a 900 Fiat engine very easy conversion then tune that.
Tuning the 650 is realy a pain . As soon as I get a bit of time I will translate the Polish pages.
Over here there are tuned 126s everywere.
Parts for disk brakes from a polonez, very cheap but work well.
Springs cut down from Polonez truck.

My wife is due to give birth any day so won't be anything for a week or so.

Nice splitty by the way. Will you be at any of the VW shows this year? I will only make the Brighton Breeze as moving back to UK in September with my bus full of 126 parts and my 126 too.
Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 21, 2006, 10:52:15 AM: Quote from: "dajwid"
according to the page, garage you have not actually modified any of your cars.
Or have you just not updated your posts?
No i couldnt be arsed to sit writing it all out for ages. Just as i havent added any of the cars ive bought into the garage and only last week removed my turbo mini clubman estate which i sold in january :lol:
Title: Compression
Post by: dajwid on May 21, 2006, 10:53:04 AM: Check for rot, then take off the wheels and check again!!!!
Anything alse is easy to fix, but the rot monter is a killer.
Title: Compression
Post by: slammed 66 on May 21, 2006, 10:59:14 AM: Quote from: "dajwid"

Nice splitty by the way. Will you be at any of the VW shows this year? I will only make the Brighton Breeze as moving back to UK in September with my bus full of 126 parts and my 126 too.

Yeah so far ive been to volksworld dubfreeze and big bang for 2006 and will be going to bugjam,vanfest and utterly vee dubberly.

Thanks for the info and congrats on the child.

Sorry if weve got off on the wrong foot but i objected to the pie in the sky comments and super mechanic etc. However i do understand why you said it as being a new member i come somewhat as an unknown enterty to you.
Thanks again
Ross
Title: Compression
Post by: 126dave on May 21, 2006, 11:04:58 AM: thanks for the finger cars,i guess aimed at me..................oh well,if you cant have an opinion eh?.......................
Title: Compression
Post by: Chris Lakin on May 21, 2006, 11:29:16 AM: im lost here?

whats aimed at you m8?

Chris
Title: Compression
Post by: wallopadonkey on May 21, 2006, 11:45:49 AM: cars post at the end of page 1 i wud assume ;-)
Title: Compression
Post by: ChrisRLewis on May 21, 2006, 01:28:33 PM: no offence to anyone, just concerned with some of the comments made to a new member.
Title: Compression
Post by: f500126 on May 21, 2006, 01:34:10 PM: Thread closed no bickering allowed on the forums!