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Fiat 126 Chat => Tuning & Customising 126 Models => Topic started by: Rusty's Uncle on July 02, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
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I get a number of enquiries as to wether I still have any of the disc brake adaptor plates that I designed and had some made a while back. So I popped into the laser cutters yesterday to see if they still had the design on their computer system . They did so I ordered another batch. They will fit any 500 or 126 if you run 13" wheels. If I get the time I will get back on the drawing board to finalise a 12" wheel conversion :)
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How much would you charge and what disc's and calipers would you use???
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Hi jazz, if you do a forum search I did a full explanation of the conversion using the Cinquecento /Seicento calipers and discs. As for cost, I have not got the final bill yet but I would be looking to try and repeat what I did last time round . That is supplying the best plates you will get at a better price than you will find some of the more agricultural designs. Hope to come in at £30 or less for a pair of plates if possible :) including UK postage.
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I'd be up for a set of these too 8)
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Me too!
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Hi there can I have a set plz..
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Update - I rang the laser cutters last Friday and the boss admitted that he had forgot the order as it was all word of mouth. Should be ready this week. Seems hard getting things done these days. I have got a crankshaft in for regrinding & they have had it for about 6 weeks then the reprofiled sport camshafts are also taking longer than promised :(
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Picked up the plates today , seems all go at the moment with the Sport Camshafts arriving yesterday and now the plates. I have checked the postage rates and will send them for £28 including postage which I think is the same as I did them a couple of years ago. I can ship to Europe for £33 and rest of the world for £37.
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Upgrade level 1 - Front disk brakes 240 mm with Ferodo disks. To use them you have to switch from 12" to 13 or larger inch wheels.
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What brakes fit to these adapters you are selling rusty? And what size discs?
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They use cinquecento or seicento discs and calipers
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Alright then, thankyou for your help Pete
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Apart from the adaptor plates you use all standard parts and if you get good used parts it is possible to do a complete conversion for less than £100. I was having a sort out the other day and found I still had som new all stainless front brake hoses as well.
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I am right in believing it a not be done for disc breaks on the back?
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No disc conversions can be done on the back...... I'm looking into doing it on mine :)
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You can buy adapter plates for the back, they come up on eBay from time to time. I bought mine from Poland which use FSO or x19 callipers.
Ralph
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Ok then, thankyou :) I have a few options on how to make my BiS nippy so need the stopping power aha thankyou
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i know i will probably get alot of people arguing with me but technicaly the drums are better brakes when it comes to pure braking force (mine will stop from 50mph on the dot),the only issue is as always just the cooling. i'm planning to make a water cooling system for mine because i'm planning to add a few horses myself.
Mike
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I had drums all round on mine and then fitted the disc brake conversion on the front. I bought the adaptors from a polish company called TRS and the discs and calipers are from a punto mk2 (mine actually uses OMP cross drilled discs and pads) the whole kit cost around £130 using good second hand calipers (god only knows how some company's charge over £600!!).
Personally it's the best upgrade I've ever done and well worth the money and I'ld recommend them to anyone. The stopping power is sooo much better and there's no worries about them being too good and locking up at the first press of the pedal.
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It was TRS I bought the rear adaptor plates from.
Ralph
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Interesting debate going on here but don't think that I can agree with Mike about drums being better otherwise modern cars would use them and F1 racing cars would be fitted with carbon fibre brake drums :o
A well set up & maintained standard system will work well and under normal conditions are adequate but with a 126 you are relying on a slightly "pepped" up system that was designed in the 1950's and can be subject to brake fade when they get hot or find you standing on the pedal & hoping when trying to slow quickly from "high"speeds. Like Gadge says with a non-servo system using the original master cylinder you get a nice balance to the brakes without them being too harsh and no chance of brakes overheating or fading under load.
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Drums will never be a better braking system over discs. The only reason that moderns use them on the back is that they are sufficient at bringing the rear under control. Discs are a far superior design as there's more surface area to grip plus they cool down better and wear evenly and won't stick as there are no adjusters. There deffinatly the way to go on our cars - not wholly nessarcey on the rears but no reason why you can't upgrade them to make the system technically better :)
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I've got all the bits to do rears on mine I'll do a full write up soon!
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Nice one stuey :D its the handbrake cable that confuses me lol
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Hmmm... how many sets you got Rusty? I might be tempted as soon as I get her through MOT as I've got a nasty noise coming from the passenger front drum/shoes... and not sure its just me or somethings not quite right but it does take a while to stop and needs much planning in advance!
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has anyone on here herd of self-servo action. if you keep your drums cool then they are more efficient at stoping. the reason f1 and other motorsports are using them i the reason that someone else aready said and i agree about that is pure cooling effect. but on the road if you keep them cool then they are more than enough for a 126.
i'm not going to argue with any one because i'm not after that i'm just trying to inform people.
Mike
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On some old motorcycles they had a scoop to direct additional air to cool the drums. Generally on the front of tritons etc
Ralph
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I was going to use water cooling for my drums. they do it to disk brakes by cooling down the calipers with water in rally cars.
Mike