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Fiat 126 Chat => Your Restorations => Topic started by: sleurhut on July 02, 2014, 12:44:15 AM
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Hello everybody.
I'm Sleurhut from the netherlands, 19 years old and proud owner of a 126P carcass :D. In the Netherlands we dont have a fiat 126 dedicated forum so i started searching the internet and came across this forum.
I'm a trainee (guess its called like that in english) at a local universal garage. We do all kind of cars. recent makes and models but also oldtimers. We have a guy working there that had a fiat 126 for ages and he had plans to restore it to its former glory. The car got stripped down and some welding was done. After that he lost the drive to finish te project and the car ended up next to our scrap metal bin outside for about a year.
When we moved to a new workshop it ended up next to the bin again. a few months ago i decided it would be nice to have a little restauration project for my own. I work all day long on other persons cars but seldom on my own. I did the guy an offer and dragged it inside to start the work on it.
this is how it started:
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I had to pull the car inside on a jack because the brakes were seized solid. Time for some fresh brakes.
first removed al the junk from it to get a better look at it.
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it needed 2 new outer sills, a new section in the front plate and 2 new floor boards. The doors also were rotted away.
the engine was not seized and had pretty good compression. It had not run for about 10 years but decided to give it a try before taking it out of the car. I connected a battery to it. Removed the plugs and soaked the cilinders in oil, squirted some oil on the rocker arms and turned it over bij hand. After fitting the plugs back in. i did a basic check to make sure i couldnt hurt the motor by trying to start it, The point looked pretty worn out but i had a strong spark. climmed back intro the car. gave it half choke and it started right up. sounded pretty smooth for something that had not run in 10 years.
The following days after work i removed the gearbox and engine. stripped it down. degreased the gearbox, replaced all the seals and gaskets and changed the boots.
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the engine was the next to be stripped down and rebuild.
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In the meantime i got more familiare with the fiat quality : :D
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this car was brought in for MOT, the chassis girders (guess its called like that in english) were rotten out and the whole coachwork was rotted loose at the rear. Got me welder out and got it back to how it should he.
A few weeks later they brought a grande punto. the gearbox locked up on the motorway. A common problem with punto's.
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but there was also good news. Reconstruction had started on the engine.
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nicely painted cilinders back on there. cil head got new valve seals and i grounded in the valves.
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it really is super clean.
rebuilded my alternator with new bearings etc
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and got a nice alu oil carter
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and fitted a bit more stuff to it
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Im currently working on getting al the engine cooling covers painted black again.
I want to build a 126 in the same style as abarth and giannini did the fiat 500. so white body, red abarth logo's. hood a bit opened up. 4 point harness. bucket seats. lowering it.
i will post new photo's when al the cooling covers are on there. please tell me what you guys think about the work that is done.
sleurhut
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Hee ' Sleurhut' :D
You did some great work on the car! Please keep us posted!
And I'm jealous of your well equipped workshop!
Keep It going!
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Very good work there, I am sure that you will have fun when you fire it up and all that effort will be rewarded :)
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thanks for the comments guys.
yeah its a very complete workshop. Its the workplace at my work where we do clients cars. Just made a little space free to put it there. When the welding begins i will put it on one of the lifts to make working on it a bit easier.
Got a little fiat 500L from 1970 for a new rear wheelbearing and regreasing the front ones today. When i hear it run it makes me wanna finish the engine and test it ;D.
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Got a parcel in the mail friday containing my exhaust. The mounting brackeds got a few coats of heat resistant matt black because they were coaten pretty thin from the factory in poland and it was already scratched. I also dit my air filter housing.
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the heater cowling is getting degreased, stripped to bare metal and zincsprayed again.
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8) NICE! :thumbup
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Looks good!
On 25.Juli-27.Juli we organized a Fiat 126/500 meeting Münsterland
Adress:
Schützenhalle
Doemern 12
48691 Vreden
Germany
It lies close to the Dutch border.
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Wow. Amazing work in a short period of time!
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Looks like new :o
:good: Great job
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Thanks guys. im pretty satisfied with it.
The engine is almost finished. some last things have to be mounted. I made a pipe to replace the inlet sound muffler that is mounted between the filter housing and the carb manifold. Waiting for parts at the moment. New boots for the filter pipe and some little things.
i tested te thermostat. it worked exactly 3 times, after that it was permanently stretched like this. So i ordered a new thermostat and mounted it. Normaly you dont have a fuel filter installed between the carb and the fuel pump. Made a nice little bracket for it to mount it properly.
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after it was almost finished the body was next.
made an assessment of the rust damage, wanted to start with a few small jobs to get back in the 'vibe' . Most of my welding jobs are under the cars and only needed to get it to pass APK (MOT) you cut out the rot. make a plate to cover up the hole and weld it on. There is no need to do it neatly. It costs more time that has to be paid by the owner of the car.
First job was the right corner of the windscreen. around the drainage hole the metal was eaten away. someone mounted a big antenna to it back in the day and did it with a step drill busting up the whole corner. welded a little plate in, grinded it smooth. welded a small plate on the inside of the frame and filled it up with weld. got it almost good without filler.
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will have to upload more photo's tonight. the battery is going down on the phone :P
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next up to be taken care of was the floor. I hoped a few patches would be sufficient. Wacked the floorboard a few times with a pointy hammer. under the sound deadening it was all rusted out. Got me grinder out and cut out the floor. drilled out all the spotwelds and ripped it out. got the car on its side so it would be easy to clean up the rust
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the big support beam that runs between the sills turned out to be rotted out to. It is not orderable here in NL. Had to make one from 2 mm sheet metal and a angle folder.
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first cleaned everything up nice and fitted the floorboard in
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and welded it all around
made a patch for the middle of the bar, had some small holes in it. made sure to have some good penetration in the metal.
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the hole at the top is there because some rust burned away while welding, have to weld it up and grind it smooth
put the car back down on it wheels and welded the inside of the floor to the center console and the inner sills. and the floor to the new bar
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put the car back on its side again and welded the new supports for the seat rails to the floor and the bar. welded one a jack support and did some grinding to smooth out everything. still have to put a small plate in the corner at the foot end cuz i cut the floor a bit to wide ;D
removed the ugly plastic bumper supports
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ready for sanding
now i'm trying to find out how to remove the right wing from the outer sill so i can replace the outer sill. cant find out where it is welded. can someone give me info on that?
sleurhut
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fair play to ye lovely job owen nw :o
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I'm sure someone advised on here not to fit the fuel filter in that position as it can be effected by the heat from the exhaust.
Best to put it before the pump.
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hmmz yeah thought about that to, maybe the way i did it will cause vaporlock. But we did it this way on a 500 before and never had a problem. Maybe change it back to mounting it in the line between the tank and the pump
do you mean affected in the meaning of melting of causing vaporlock?
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a few weeks passed. this is my last vacation day. Time to go the pub but first an little update:
next up is the right sill, cut the old one out (almost broke it out, only rust and filler held is to the car) cleaned up the inside and catalysed the rust, zincsprayed it. also zincsprayed the inside of te new sill and made it fit.
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first i wanted to remove the fender, but when you remove it the chances it will fit back on in one piece is small. cut the sill just before the fender started and made the new one fit against it. welded it around
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left side was up next, again drill the spotwelds and cut the edges:
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and made the new one fit, welded it in
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seatrails are nicely positioned, everything fits like it should
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left sill had to be reinforced before i cut out the sill. it was so bad it the only thing holding it together was a spotwelded piece of 0.8 steel and a lot of putty.
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did the same as on the other side:
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used seamfiller (we call it strijkkit/carrosoriekit) to seal of all of the overlapping pieces and welds,
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put the car on the lift to cut the front nose of, first checked the underside to make sure it looked right
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when the bodywork is finished i will remove the suspension, remove all the bitumen and underside coatings. spray it with 2k expoxy, paint it and redo it with black tectyl and bodyschutz.
cut out the nose, battery tray was rotted out so that must go too
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cleaned it all up and fitted the new nose, fits pretty good needs some brazing where the nose meets the headlight surround at the fender. removed it again and drilled the spotwelds to remove the battery tray. but thats something to do next week.
Did some small work today cleaning the dashboard with dasty
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and resprayed the instrument binacle in matt black. flamepolished the switches to the original blackish color back up. polished the plexiglas with silvo silver polish. it will leave no scratches.
is the dashboard also avaible in black? i rather want a black one than a grey one, fits my interior better :D
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very good work, this 126 is going to be the most rot free 126.
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thanks, pretty satisfied with it.
Got the nose fitted to the car. batterytray had to be replaced., as wel as the underside of the nose. some guy sticked roofing asphalt on the hole to cover it :(.
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drilled all of the spotwelds, pulled out the batterytray. the new piece of the underside is welded in now.
and welded in the new one
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smoothened the welds and dryfitted the frontplate
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fits pretty good, needed some work on the bended bits where it meets the frontwings.
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bended it a bit by hand and used the hydraulic press set that you normale use to push supporting beams back into position when you crash your car to press the bended sides to the outside to make them fit the fenders better. got it almost spot on. cheated a bit the last half a mm by beating the front wing a little bit to the inside to close the gap a bit more :)
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welded a new piece in the front wheelarch
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and that wraps up the welding on it for now. cant find more rot. I will have to weld 2 small plates in the square holes in the A pillar where plastic trim would normally clip onto.
pulled the suspension
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removed most of the old wheelwell filling
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no rot!
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this one before scraping it all out.
Got the underside mostly stripped back to the old white factory paint. degreased it well and applied 3 layers of thick akzo nobel epoxy 2k primer with a brush to get a thicker layer on it. dont have foto's of it but it sealed the panels of. waited 2 days before applying body sealer. a 1kg can got smeared in every little crease to get it all watertight. waited another day to apply anti stone chipping. and after that about 3 layers of bitumen undercoating. the stuff that wont dry out as fast. the chassis girders got done with tectyl ML.
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hope this is enough to let it survive the dutch wheater :-X
a few weeks ago i picked up a lowering kit second hand
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and got everything for the suspension new except the front shocks and the traingles etc
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started fixing the front suspension first, new dustcaps etc. replaced the outer balljoints
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and next day did the other ones.
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balljoints felt like new. not to supple not to stiff and they had good grease in them. regreased them and put new dustcaps on
got another pair of vents in the mail
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a lot better than the original
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did the whole interior but dont have photo's off it. now i'm busy replacing the seals of the stearing box and setting it up right. after that i will pull all new brake lines and refit the suspension with the new stuff
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Great work!!
top-notch :thumbup
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school started again so i dont have that much time to work on my fiat.
got the stearing box degreased, took it apart and checked it out. bearing were fine, filled it with grease instead of oil (it will always leak out overtime, its a fiat :P) and fitted it back together. Had to adjust the bearing play and pretension on it to get it to work without any play on the stearing wheel.
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love fiats attention to detail:
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Front wheel hubs were next up. pulled the drums off:
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everthing new.... 15 years ago. totally siezed up and dried out. had to be replaced
got a good set of brake backplates. stripped it down and primed it
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all assembled. Had to mount new wheel bearings.
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did the next set exactly the same way.
lol a picture of my moped was included in the folder. 1960's RAP
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stripped the rear trailingarms down for shotblasting and powdercoating. checked the bearing races and regreased it so it can be mounted when the arms come back from coating
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Got a picture this car is gonna look when its finished, love the look and stance.
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Wow I thought I went to a lot of trouble rebuilding , you sir are in a league of your own !
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Awesome work so far! I'm sure you're colleague will be envious of what he could of had :D
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hats off owen nw :o
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thanks for the comments, my colleague likes the progress on it very much, he likes to see it will eventually return back on the road instead of getting scrapped :)
last part of the suspension that had to be tackled were the rear wishbones. one of them was to far gone to be salvaged. the arm is made out of different stamped pieces of thick metal that are spot welded together. moisture will work its way between them and causes rust, it was so much that it pushed the metal plate against the axle
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got a good second hand one and got it shot blasted and powdercoated. rebuild starts.
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and all finished:
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picked up a set of cobra seats for it and mounted the suspension back on the car
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When i installed the rear suspension i couldn't get the 2 rubber springmounts to seat nicely to the underside of the body. got them right and fit the springs. lowered the car on its wheels, lifted it up and this is wat i found
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it would not stay in place. had to grind the rubber down a bit on the inside and use a very strong sealant (normaly it is used to glue the front windshield of a train to the coachwork) to glue the rubber to the body. then fit the springs and put the car back on its wheels, that way the springs press the seat to the body and make sure it bonds wel. next problem was the spring would sit loosely in its seat when lifting up the car, its an MOT fail here. But with a piece of crankcase breather hose around the first winding of the spring it would pinch it just enough.
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i have a lowered front leave, but it only dropped a few cm's. when the engine is fitted the car will drop a bit more on the rear end and i will have to drop the front also a bit more. whats the best way to do it.
and i have another question, on the rear panel were the front mount of the engine sits on there is a small hole a bit off centre in it. Whats the purpous of this hole? can a crank handle be put through it or something like that?
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The hole in the rear panel is for the power supply to the number plate light. You can machine the front spring alloy supports to drop the front by 10mm and fit a reverse eye front spring this can give an additional drop of approx. 40-50mm. The other option is to fit fully independent suspension to the front or if you are adventurous you could fit air bags.
Ralph
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thanks ralph,
i already installed a lowered front leaf. The camber is also way off now. i think i need camber correction plates to place the a frame arms a bit higher to get the wheels to get to a normal camber angle again. I think i first finish the car and look at the hight then. according to some fiat 500 guy that comes by us for a chat quite often will the car drop a little bit more when it is driven. The leaf needs some time to settle itself in the rubber mountings.
want to run the car bumperless, will weld the hole shut then.
next to do is make the last brake line that runs from the master cilinder to the rear brakes, then it will be times to install the hoodpins and start paint prep.
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I have found that leaf springs do give a bit with time but not much. How did you install the new spring if you didn't use a spring compression tool then it is difficult for the rubber in the bushes to allow rotation. I have seen 500's sitting up in the air because the spring wasn't compressed enough when installed.
Ralph
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I just mounted one eye of the leaf to the wheelhub. Then put a floorjack under the other end and pushed everything in place on the seats on the car, i did not use a soring compressor.
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http://club126uk.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6123.msg42381#msg42381
See above thread, there is a photo of the spring compressor I used. It is fabricated from some sq hollow tube with a threaded bar and some large washers, did the job. If you look in the Haynes manual you will see a sketch of the FIAT tool.
Ralph
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hello everybody, first happy newyear!
the past weeks i did not work very much on the 126. did some small jobs, mayority was removing sound deadening and cleaning the goo that the polish glue left :)
first i mounted some hoodpins to the bonnet and the frontlid. made in the uk :P.
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all of the old sound deadening had to be removed since it started to break from being exposed to cold and snow a few times. Get a big hammer with a rubber head on it like paviours use and start hitting the surfaces. It will break in a million pieces and come of without much trouble. at least that was what de first panel did....
the second one had to be heated with a paint stripper and removed with a putty knife. i did not want to bust up the cables that run to the rear to much and they had to be rewrapped in new isolation tape with new connectors so got that out as well... until i had an empty shell without something in it
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and with the help of an angle grinder with a wire wheel on it the whole inside was bare without any sealant in about one day
found some rot in the side window surround.
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cut it out and made a nice new piece for it on the outside. welded it in. dont have any photo's of it. for the inside you can use the top piece of an inner sill, about in the middle. the curve in the sill matched that of the window surround 100%. saved me a lot of time trying to make an piece that would fit is nice.
i'm going to run a 4 point harness. cut out the old anchor point for the seatbelts, pretty weak and i sticks out to much. i want maximum room in the back.
got a piece of L bar welded in there
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eventually i wil make nice aluminium covers for the 2 big holes in the sides where the filler neck protrudes, this is to give the window surround some strength
after that some anchor plates were made from 2.5mm steel and welded on 6 places to weld my rollcage onto. dont have pics of those
got a set of 13 inch wheels
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they do stick out a bit to much, on the front it is no problem. but on the rear they reach 4 cm outside the wheelwells. to much for the dutch version of MOT. anyone got the wider arches for sale?
made the old style heater unit fit, had to weld 4 studs to the underside of the dash and cut away the old ones. found out the connectors on the new style and the old style gauge were the same. Got myself an complete old style dashboard and made it to fit.
(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-FRTBNLIZ.jpg)
you just put it exactly in the middle of the 2 studs where the steeringwheel will bolt onto. with a marker draw what will have to go to make it slide in the narrower hole in the dashboard, and just start cutting away stuff till it fits.
bended some sheetmetal to close the big gaps on the sides
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now it fits just like it does in the old style dashboards. i will have to reinfore the hole on the back a little bit where the speedo cable comes in. with the old style dashboard mat on it you cant see it has been a new model dashboard in a previous life :D
next job will be fitting the old style ashtray to the middle of the dashboard and welding in my rollcage
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did some work on the car the last weeks.
because the car is probably gonna spend some time on the slalom course when its finished i figured out it would be a good idea to put in a rollcage. Original FIA approved ones cost a bit to much for my kind of budget. i dont need a fia approved one to run it on the slalom course. Got some measurements done and welded in a rollcage:
(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-P4LOZLF3.jpg)
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i cant run it with the doorbars in because that way you cant mount a decent size seat in to drive it :)
all the welding is done now, both doors needed a new panel where the lock is mounted. it was torn from the door because of metal fatigue of guys smashed the doors shut too hard
(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-FLFRQFES.jpg)
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tommorow the sanding will start :)