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Fiat 126 Chat => Tuning & Customising 126 Models => Topic started by: candanoglu on February 18, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
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Hi everbody
I have a 1991 FSM650 airflow.
I bought accuspark,msd 8,5 spark plug wire,ngk iridium spark.And ı purscahed them.Everthings is ok.
But ignition coil is standart twin coil.I bought two pieces Accel 8140C coil.So when I asked to accuspark ,''Can I use 2 pieces coil with accuspark kit'' they said me what the product is designed for one coil.
What can I do it best spark.If it is possible used to 2 pieces coil,what must I do..or Which you prefer high performance twin coil .
Thanks...
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I do not get please correct some of your words.
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what mods do you have ?
please, tell me that you have a very heavily modified engine, if not, stop wasting your money and do some real mods.
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The twin spark is fine.
If you have a distributor fitter with a distributor cap and wires going from the cap to the plugs you only need a single offtake coil however if it is a later model with just a cap over the points, you will need a double offtake coil.
Good idea to upgrade to CDI if you can.
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I do not get please correct some of your words.
sorry I think my english is not enough
I want fit this... (ignition coil is 2 piece)
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5628/86113110151462445313331.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/86113110151462445313331.jpg/)
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to this...
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3982/img4657l.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/img4657l.jpg/)
:)
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what mods do you have ?
please, tell me that you have a very heavily modified engine, if not, stop wasting your money and do some real mods.
I didn't have any mod at now.But I want do big valve (which I shall prefer),camshaft 40/80,dellorto 40 dhla.I think,this is enough for start.
forged pistons and rods is very expensive.I will investigate for apply my car any diesel engine rods and turbo engine pistons or performance car pistons (peugeot 106 gti ,bmw 320) which do you propose?
thanks.
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I wonder if Peugeot etc. parts will fit. Never heard from it. But for the polish people lots is possible. Ask them too.
Just to let you know. I have a double coil system with cap over the ignition. I mounted all coppercore wire between the coil and the plugs. The car runs better on it then with the fiber ones. The sparks are the original Champions L82Y or something similar. Can't really remember the number.
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I have a double coil system with cap over the ignition. I mounted all coppercore wire between the coil and the plugs.
Can you send me any photo?
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I have electonic ignition (nanoplex), no more coils etc... You can fit it for Your bambino with no problem... all what You need is:
http://www.rezerwa126p.pl/warsztat/warsztat-elektryczny/114-opis-elektronicznego-ukadu-zaponowego-i-jego-monta-w-wersji-st-fl
have set for sale if someone wants...
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Pfff...Polish people are very nice people but there language...is not to understand for The West.
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SORRY BOSS.......... NOT EVERY ONE IS SO PERFECT AS YOU............
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Hm, why you have to fit 2x12V? Looks hard to do and a non-sense. The standard double coil should be good enough if not broken.
Primary winding 1,52 Om +/-5%
Secondary winding 10 000 Om +/-10%
When connecting your accuspark pick-up, have in mind that the double coil is ballasted - it's power supplied by a resistor cable to reduce the voltage, so to prevent coil overheating. The red cable of the device has to be connected before the resistor to +12V supply controlled by the key operated ignition switch.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5310/doublecoilignitionfiat1.jpg
The resistor wire is #55 sky blue color (the square snake one), goes from the coil #60 to plug #48 (on the left corner of the engine room). On the other side of the plug is the orange cable that comes from the ignition key/switch. So you have to connect the red cable of the device with this orange cable. And the black one on the negative coil terminal.
Also you will need a stroboscope to adjust the advance.
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SORRY BOSS.......... NOT EVERY ONE IS SO PERFECT AS YOU............
Hi. First of all it was not meant personally. Second, I meant it like the Polish language it self. Not the way we all not English write English. Third: Us not understanding Polish websites is due to pact with Churchill and Stalin. If that didn't happen they, our teachers, might educate us Polish or even Russian. But Capitalism prevented us from all of that. Not you guys but we in The West lived behind an 'iron curtain'.
Enough of misunderstandings and geo politics. That ELX setup looks very good. And you say it will fit any older engine as well?
@ Candanoglu: I have same coil as you and sparkwires I then replaced for full copper ones.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3982/img4657l.jpg
ps: #4: I'm not perfect. I do not even want to bee. I only want to do all the best I can ;)
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1 http://translate.google.pl/?hl=pl&tab=wT#pl/en/ucz%20si%C4%99%20j%C4%99zyk%C3%B3w....
2 http://www.rezerwa126p.pl/forum/viewforum.php?f=28&sid=bcd26cc35ce9692c70929cc789e51b6d
3 http://www.motonews.pl/sh_forum.php?op=fvf&c=117&f=25
4 http://translate.google.pl/?hl=pl&tab=wT#pl/en/szukanie%20nie%20boli....
that all what I can say....
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I think is a bit(or 'big') waste of money ;). If you have twin coil it's gona work as wasted spark anyway so perhaps only gain is stronger spark which is not really needed. The best mod to 126 ignition system is electonic ignition AKA nanoplex from later EL version. Even used on rally cars so must be worthwhile ;)
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Yeah I do share your thoughts. A double coil is always better then a single one. And with Nanoplex there is none at all (...so far as I know).
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I dont now what with bis, but any air cool can be set....