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Fiat 126 Chat => Your Restorations => Topic started by: wsmitwil on December 03, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
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hi again thought it was time to post some photos of my bis resoration
im not big on photos of everthing possible but heres two
first one is of the car from the scrap yard when it had an indoor pool in the back
new carpets i think
it is now in the garage whilst its being undersealed
ill get more photos when its back out again
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Looking good, Will, great to see the pics!
Are you sticking with the original colour or going for something more fancy?
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Thanks I think I'm going to keep it white, because the dvla don't like it when you change the colour
The front wheel arch was a pain, someone had brought an air cooled front wheel arch for it which doesn't fit the bis as the bis has bigger wheel arches
;D
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I think I've found all the rust I can hooray :P
Undersealed and new brake pipes are on time to look at the electronics :-X
Some **** towed this behind a motor home and has messed around with the fiats electronics
Now time to play sort the spaghetti :o
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The car is coming together quite nicely. My red Bis restoration is going at a snail's pace, but it is moving. Keep up the good work and keep us posted re your progress.
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here are some more photos ;D
the first two pics are of the hatch repair as this was very rusty
only a couple of photos but the last one is a pic i just like
The windows and back lights are back in to stop mice or any other thing getting in over the winter
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here are some photos of what my blue car [bluey] before restoration whilst the BIS is still in the garage
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I think my garage is the only one where it snows inside
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New doors now fitted and are nearly the same colour as the car, did fiat do two different whites on the bis or is it just the car has been sitting in the sun
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Don't think so, Have you tried T-cut or rubbing compound to bring the colour back,
With all old cars we don't know the history or if they have been repainted at sometime ::)
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Haven't thought of that really, only noticed when they were hung on the car today, all I can see of the car being painted is that someone had put house paint all over the back for some reason ::)
The car will have to be resprayed but ill try and match it to the colour of the doors because i think that's the true colour
Thanks
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Hello again
After trying my best to try and repair the rear hatch on the BIS, in the first picture in the post
I have now brought a 2nd hand rear hatch in a lot better condition to go with my new doors from bakewell, the car will now look a lot better
BIG THANKS to robfiat for supplying me with the much needed parts, if you need anything bis contact him
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Hello all
All suspension done and rust sorted out now (hopefully) ;D
Wiring still causing trouble but it's a fiat >:(
Grinding to a halt as filler and paint just doesn't dry in these conditions, British weather
Think I'm going to clean the Engine, and change the starter motor because it keeps sticking
Still lots of work to do :P
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Glad to hear the hatch was ok :)
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Glad to hear the hatch was ok :)
cheers
;D ;D ;D
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Bodywork done, just onto the paint now
My blue one was painted with cellulose and its abit dull
So I have to decide to go with cellulose again or 2pack
Found a white which looks original but it's not the paint code of 224/F under the lid
I found halfords 210 is a lot closer to original
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Been offerd an old fiat panda today :)
Other news getting the paint tommorow ;D
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1st cote of top coat paint gone on today, was looking good until I noticed it had reacted with the primer in the same place on both sides around the rear windows :cry:
more sandpaper needed I think
But everywhere else is good and a BLINDING white :P
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Fully painted now ;D
Took it out of the garage today in the sun it was BLINDING white 8)
Starting to re-fit plastic
Do those gutter trim strips shrink or something they fitted when I took them off ???
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Fitted the disc brake conversion today, actually a lot easier than I thought,
got to get some flexable brake hoses any help on those is great, or ill get some made from pirtek
Fitted new exhaust gaskets, that's FUN !!! >:(
Starting to look better
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as you can see from my new profile picture the bis is getting back to how it should look
as ive lost my photo shop software i cant upload any photos
The profile picture is so bad quality, but because its small so you don't notice
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Hello all
Just a note on what happened today,
Ill begin with just a few days ago when i fitted new discs and pads to the disc conversion,
Once the new stuff was on , it ment the steel wheels dident fit without spacers, i got spacers but they were running too close to the calipers for my liking so, long story short I saw some nice wheels in my favorite scrap yard a month ago on a cinquacento and decided i would go back and see if they were still there
Luckily they were and decided to get them, they are 6 spoke oz racing wheels, so the car won't look standard
Here is what they look like, http://www.suzuki4u.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=38563
But I got mine cheaper than that and they are fitted with new tyres so I'm pretty happy today
;D
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Real happy today as all lights are working, wipers indicators washers all seam to be working engine turns over on the key
I have hopefully got it all working, feels good when a car comes back from the dead
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Some pictures ;D
Enjoy ;D
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They look so much better without the side trips. But those holes :(
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I think they look better too but it protects the car
This is more recent ;D ;D ;D
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Got it out of the garage yesterday
Found out the handbrake really doesn't work, some adjustment needed I think
;D ;D ;D
Will
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Got it out of the garage yesterday
Found out the handbrake really doesn't work, some adjustment needed I think
;D ;D ;D
Will
Mine sucks as well! Apparently adjusting is a right pain but I've not had a look yet
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Washed the car today, found out that the door seals don't work, now I have to clean the interior :(
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New carpet fitted today, nice dark blue carpet from ricambio they don't tell you that it had to be cut
Cut around accelerator pedal and steering column but looks great will have to get one for the blue car as we'll
;D
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Just got back from buying another set of wheels,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221316987847?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648
Unfortunately not going on either of the 126s but the family's fiat panda but maybe one day :P
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Nice! Are you going to paint them or go for the polish?
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Cheers, there in pretty bad shape as they where outside For years so will need to be refurbished, so will look new in the original colour
Will have to see what they look like On the panda :P
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would look great in white Wil :D
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The wheels are all done but they make a knocking noise on the panda for some reason ::)
so now can be fitted on the 126 if I want to :P
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Heres some pics
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is that a new carpet set or just a good vax?
Tidy lil 126.
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Cheers Marc, new carpet from ricambio doesn't really fit but it'll do
Tried the engine out, and it'll run for a couple of seconds then dies tried the timing and checked all the normal things, there seems to be fuel but it just won't tick over :(
allot more noisier than I thought it would be to being water cooled, so means will probably be in the air cooled for retro rides,
The good news is that the air cooled started first time after not being started for 8 months :P
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That carpet looks posher than the one I've got in the house, Will, very nice! ;D
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I love the carpet :D I was thinking of doing the same thing with mine. Which part of it doesn't fit well though?
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Cheers Gary and Gadge, it's a really nice carpet allot better than the original,
It doesn't really fit around the pedals and the seatbelt mount I think it's moulded really for the 500 not the 126 it needs a few modifications, the only holes are for the handbrake and gear lever so seat belts, pedals have to be cut through the tough carpet backing, I don't know if it depends where you buy the carpet from but I image they are all the same
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Ahh ok that's not too bad then I think I could handle that. My one it not in great shape and I think the navy blue one you have will look pretty smart :D
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Haven't posted on this topic for a while, here's some pics
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/imagejpg1_zps4646a497.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/imagejpg1_zps45bc085d.jpg)
Starting to find some little problems with the bis, one of them is that annoying float switch in the header tank is broken and as we all know they can cost stupid amounts so if anyone can shine a light on where I can get one a little cheaper this would be great, and does anyone know what the temperature is when the fan is supposed to kick in, left it running for while and the fan didn't come on
Cheers
Will
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Looks very nice, lovely clean white :good:
Coolant tank float switches are hard to find, take a look at this thread....http://club126uk.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8930.0
The rad fan should kick in when the dash temp gauge needle is at half way. Mine comes on for short bursts. Worth checking fuse, thermostat is opening, then temp switch on back of rad.
Haven't posted on this topic for a while, here's some pics
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/imagejpg1_zps4646a497.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/imagejpg1_zps45bc085d.jpg)
Starting to find some little problems with the bis, one of them is that annoying float switch in the header tank is broken and as we all know they can cost stupid amounts so if anyone can shine a light on where I can get one a little cheaper this would be great, and does anyone know what the temperature is when the fan is supposed to kick in, left it running for while and the fan didn't come on
Cheers
Will
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Yes I'll go along with andy and say the fan should come in about halfway. Mine actually comes in just after half and switches off when it reaches halfway. If it's comming in around three quarters up the gauge (just before the red) then it may be just that the system needs a bleed. Mine used to come in at around 3/4 up and would go on and off every 60 seconds which I thought was normal until I gave it a coolant change and spent ages bleeding it out and now it sits at half and stays there suggesting that this is perhaps the norm.
The float switches are abit pricey but they are quite a simple device. The chances are that the little float weight has came off and is swimming around in your expansion tank. If you can get it out it wouldn't be too challenging to repair it :)
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Cheers Andy and Gadge your information is much appreciated, I think I'll have to take it for a run to get it hot enough to get it to the right temp to see if the fan comes on
And I've taken the switch out and the white bit is missing, I'll take the tank off today and I'll try to find it
Cheers again
Will :P
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My bis fan kicks in at half way on the gauge... pretty much as soon as the thermostat actually opens (keep feeling the bottom rad hose... stays cold for quite a while at idle, holding rpm up higher helps but load on the engine will increase the temperatures quicker. There should be two speeds Gadge, so i'm wondering if yours is only operating on the "high speed", you can check the fan by bridging the pins on the coolant switch (which is on the far side of the rad) or applying 12v direct to it... the connector had snapped off on mine from corrosion... managed to come up with a solution as it was the ground pin that had broken off and the rivet that holds it all together inside was also ground... Had a spare connector from an aircooled condensor so managed to screw that into the rivet with a crimped "o" connector on the end and could plug the ground of the main power feed back in no problem!
Hope things with your float switch are getting better now!?
The bodywork on that lovely white bis looks great and that new carpet looks great too!
Only just stumbled upon this thread, been refurbishing the steels I bought from you the past few days! Going to get some paint on them tomorrow if the weather allows!
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My bis fan kicks in at half way on the gauge... pretty much as soon as the thermostat actually opens (keep feeling the bottom rad hose... stays cold for quite a while at idle, holding rpm up higher helps but load on the engine will increase the temperatures quicker. There should be two speeds Gadge, so i'm wondering if yours is only operating on the "high speed", you can check the fan by bridging the pins on the coolant switch (which is on the far side of the rad) or applying 12v direct to it... the connector had snapped off on mine from corrosion... managed to come up with a solution as it was the ground pin that had broken off and the rivet that holds it all together inside was also ground... Had a spare connector from an aircooled condensor so managed to screw that into the rivet with a crimped "o" connector on the end and could plug the ground of the main power feed back in no problem!
Hope things with your float switch are getting better now!?
The bodywork on that lovely white bis looks great and that new carpet looks great too!
Only just stumbled upon this thread, been refurbishing the steels I bought from you the past few days! Going to get some paint on them tomorrow if the weather allows!
Cheers, I took the header tank to find allot of gunk and not one but two of those white floats, reconnected and the light has now gone off, not had a chance to take the car out yet just got to hope the fan comes on
Hope the wheels went ok
Cheers
Will :)
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Hello everyone haven't been on here for a while
Here's an update not much been going on, got a new 500 to go in the collection of 126s
On another note decided to take the engine out because it was annoying me as ive spent too much time on it, will take a proer look inside to see if there is anything badly wrong, on that, see the Pics of the gearbox below what on earth has happened here looks pretty bent
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspvjatece.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/wsmitwil/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspvjatece.jpg.html)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdfoyf1ff.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/wsmitwil/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdfoyf1ff.jpg.html)
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Oh my that looks serious! Is your rear crank bearing shagged to? lol. I'd love a 500 myself still here! :). Pics required!
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Hello, have had a small look at the fly wheel and it doesn't look too bad, the shaft is compleatly bent it moves from side to side when spinning, :( the release bearing has been ripped apart so has the friction plate and the input shaft bearing is also compleatly gone, oil everywhere :(
The drive is getting fuller :P
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/image.jpg3_zpstpclevl6.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/wsmitwil/media/image.jpg3_zpstpclevl6.jpg.html)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/image.jpg1_zpsyxnq0wm7.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/wsmitwil/media/image.jpg1_zpsyxnq0wm7.jpg.html)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/image.jpg2_zps9wiacimd.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/wsmitwil/media/image.jpg2_zps9wiacimd.jpg.html)
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Oh they all look so clean and tidy, what engine is in that 500? twinair? :). I was imagining a classic but new isn't too bad either, other than those microsoft windows buttons I've seen on a few of the steering wheels for windows phones, urgh lol.
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Oh they all look so clean and tidy, what engine is in that 500? twinair? :). I was imagining a classic but new isn't too bad either, other than those microsoft windows buttons I've seen on a few of the steering wheels for windows phones, urgh lol.
Cheers the only prob is I'm starting to wash the paint away :P, I couldent get a twin air so I got a 1.2 it was cheaper lol ;D, still can't get my head around the steering wheel .. Not literally :lol:
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That photo of the input shaft is shocking :o it look on closer inspection that it has been re welded onto the spline?
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That photo of the input shaft is shocking :o it look on closer inspection that it has been re welded onto the spline?
It was shocking gadge thankfully I had a spare shaft, engine is now in bits all over the place and it's in a state, bearings, seals, pilot bearing, clutch, the list is getting bigger I've found everything apart from one thing
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/wsmitwil/image.jpg1_zpsqix9fn85.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/wsmitwil/media/image.jpg1_zpsqix9fn85.jpg.html)
Piston ring shaped thing is in many pieces and I can't find anything like it
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Have a look at this website or maybe try your local bearing supplier
http://www.morrissprings.co.uk/circlips.html
http://www.morrissprings.co.uk/Circlips.pdf