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Fiat 126 Chat => Fiat 126 Mechanical Problem Solving => Topic started by: Draigflag on June 27, 2011, 06:16:43 PM
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Bit of an obsession going with wheels here! Just got some Fiat 131 Mirafiori wheels from eBay. Just tried them on the 126 (without tyres) and they seem very close to the body.
Question is, will they fit with some spacers, how do I find out and if so, where can i get some spacers + extended bolts?
Sorry to be a newb! :$
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I guess no bdy knows then. I'm going to order some spacers and longer bolts and hope they fit. Will they be safe though? Or will there be balancing issues due to the cars size?
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I don't get the problem. What is "they seem very close to the body"?
If I can picture it well, with spacers will be even worse.
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It's all about offsets. From what I understand the 126's offset is ET35 so what's the offset of your 131 wheels? If it's higher than ET35 you can use spacers to reduce the gap, if it's lower than ET35 then there is no (cheap) way to correct it.
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I'd suggest you check with wherever you go for your MOTs. They can be a bit funny about such things, Be a shame to buy wheels, tires, spacers & new bolts to have them condemmed at next MOT.
Especially if you have dumped your old wheels & tires !!!! Spacers are banned here.
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I'm not sure of the offset, should it be stamped on the wheel? Basically i want 10 or 20 MM spacers (like giant washers) between the wheel and the hub so it's (in theory) further away from the car body. The 131 wheels are 1 CM narrower than the Cinq alloys which fit fine, but the stud holes are closer to the face of the rim so the back of the rim is closer to the car.
Really sorry about the poor explanation. I've got my mate to stick a tyre (from the Cinq Alloys) one the spare rim so i can fit it and see if there are any real clearance issues. If i can't figure this one out then i guess i'll have to flog them again :(
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The offset should be stamped on them, something like ETxx (where xx is a number). I'm not familiar with the wheels, are they 13x5j?
Anything over 8mm spacers and I'd be looking hubcentric, richie.guy on FF sells sets for a decent price :) But don't look at spacers until we know what size you need, I can't imagine you'll need any bigger than 10mm tbh, 20mm will probably cause problems the other way, lol
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Thanks for your help. Can't see anything on the wheels besides 5j x 13 and 1082? I'll have a closer look tonight. Pic below of what they look like, thought they'd look pretty smart on the 126! :D
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Still trying to get my head around this issue. How about these? Will they fit the 126? They seem to have the right sizes etc.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-CINQUECENTO-HUBCENTRIC-WHEEL-SPACER-KIT-15MM-/300505716934?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item45f78958c6
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Thanks for your help. Can't see anything on the wheels besides 5j x 13 and 1082? I'll have a closer look tonight. Pic below of what they look like, thought they'd look pretty smart on the 126! :D
They are a stock Fiat wheel but trying to recall from which model/s. Try looking for pics of 128 sport, mid to late 70s ?
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Still trying to get my head around this issue. How about these? Will they fit the 126? They seem to have the right sizes etc.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-CINQUECENTO-HUBCENTRIC-WHEEL-SPACER-KIT-15MM-/300505716934?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item45f78958c6
Look a bit dodgy to me. Sure they are 4/98PCD ??
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Thanks for your help. Can't see anything on the wheels besides 5j x 13 and 1082? I'll have a closer look tonight. Pic below of what they look like, thought they'd look pretty smart on the 126! :D
They are a stock Fiat wheel but trying to recall from which model/s. Try looking for pics of 128 sport, mid to late 70s ?
He said at the start they're from a 131 Mirafiori. I'd be dubious about those spacers personally, but you can always ask the seller just to clarify as the listing says VW fit, then goes on to say 4/5x98 so it can't be both or even all 3! But we need to make sure 15mm is the right size, too.
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Oh damn, why are simple things so hard to work out? I love these wheels, i want them to fit! :(
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I've just been doing a bit reading, apparently some of the alloys were ET0 and fitted with 30mm spacers, which would make the car (131 that is) ET-(negative)30. Based on that if these wheels fit straight onto a 131 with no spacers then there's not a hope they'll go onto the 126, but looking at the picture I doubt that's the case. Rather than you splashing out, I've a set of 10mm hubcentric spacers. If you can get the car here you're welcome to test fit them and see how it looks/feels, probably better than spending money on a set too find out they're too big/small.
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Thanks for your help. Can't see anything on the wheels besides 5j x 13 and 1082? , thought they'd look pretty smart on the 126! :D
They are a stock Fiat wheel but trying to recall from which model/s. Try looking for pics of 128 sport, mid to late 70s ?
He said at the start they're from a 131 Mirafiori.
I would have thought a 131 would have had 5&1/2" J rims ?, that's why I sugested 128
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Haynes manual says 51/2j x 13 for the 1995cc sport model
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The ones at the picture are definitely 5 1/2J 13. I think i have seen some fitted to 126's.
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The width isn't an issue though, the offset is
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I should be getting one back from the tyres fitters today fitted with a 165 tyre, i'll put it on the car, take some pics and show you how close it is and then we'll go from there. Thanks for the offer of the spacers btw! Can't really get the car over to you without tax or MOT though.
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It is not only what will fit under or in the wheelarches, you will reduce your steering arc with wider tires as they rub on the body when on lock. My spider has 165s as standard but 205s rubbed on the top arms on both locks ( with correct offset).
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Well i tried one at the front with a tyres and it just clears lock to lock, it touches the mudflap it's so close! Not tried the back yet, but i am 99% sure it's too wide with the tyre as you can only just get your finger between the wheel and body without tyre. So i am either going to sell them or track down some spacers. The cinq 15MM ones are looking the best bet.
So my hunt for a decent set of rims continues! Does anybody know if these will fit? :$
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Alfa-Romeo-Classic-Campanatura-Wheels-5-5J-x-13-/270783215824?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item3f0beff8d0
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Sorry folks, i'm hoping to fit the Fiat 131 wheels soon, tried one at the back with a tyre and it looks awesome, like a little Abarth track car!
Anyway, it's clear of the body, just! You can get a folded piece of paper between the wheel and the body at the rear but it's a bit too close for comfort for me. Are the hubs on the 126 the same as the Cinq? I'm going to try some 15 MM spacers with extended bolts as i really want them to fit!
Thanks
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I think the bolt thread pitch is different - M12x1.5 (Cinq/Sei is M12x1.25).
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Anyway, it's clear of the body, just! You can get a folded piece of paper between the wheel and the body at the rear but it's a bit too close for comfort for me. Are the hubs on the 126 the same as the Cinq? I'm going to try some 15 MM spacers with extended bolts as i really want them to fit!
Thanks
You could dummy it up with a stack of plain washers, that way you can adjust to see what suits and save buying spacers that may not work ? An Engineer's supply shop should even have a selection of washer thicknesses from about 0.8mm to 2 or 3mm. So you nead between 20 &72 washers depending.
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Some bolts may be used likewise to save some washers?
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Bolt thread pitch? Oh man, why is fitting some wheels such a task ???
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Some bolts may be used likewise to save some washers?
Sorry, but how will "bolts" pack the rims out off the drums to establish thickness of spacer requirement in order to clear body ?
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I think they mean nuts rather than bolts, but that'd only work if it needs spaced out quite a way, nuts tend not to be very thin!
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Terribly sorry, i meant to say nuts of course. Much confusion and so much embarassment. :$
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I might just stick the Cinq alloys on to save all the fuss. Not a big fan, but they are better than plastic hub caps :$