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Fiat 126 Chat => Fiat 126 Mechanical Problem Solving => Topic started by: soulboy on March 17, 2011, 10:57:50 PM

Title: Wont Start
Post by: soulboy on March 17, 2011, 10:57:50 PM
please somebody help,my biz wont start ive renewed the plugs,ht leads,points,condensor,fuel pump,cleaned the carb and yet still no heart beat.what am i doing wrong help.......
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: dajwid on March 18, 2011, 12:15:05 PM
is it turning over or dead?

Is there fuel?

Spark?

Title: Won't start
Post by: 126bis1997 on March 18, 2011, 12:44:25 PM
Did you change the pump main rod??
Do check that carb is getting fuel and take off dizzy cap and check for spark by inserting a skrewdriver between contact points  with ignition on. Also make sure you got the petrol pipes fitted the right way on the pump. Keep us posted cheers Peter.
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: soulboy on March 18, 2011, 06:07:28 PM
thanks for reply,yes i have spark to points fuel to carb but still no life
every time i try to start her she keeps back firing so im not far off
Thanks.....
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: Pete126 on March 18, 2011, 06:30:24 PM
Sounds to me as if you haven't got the ignition timing set correctly, If you have had the distributor out it need to go back in the same position, Did you check the static timing once you had reset the points ???
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: soulboy on March 19, 2011, 01:21:54 AM
cheers for that ,the guy i bought it of has told me
he took it off to clean it .so i think you guys are right
now the thing is setting ignition timing anybody help
thanks in advance
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: hotdeffender on March 19, 2011, 08:35:15 PM
Ive recently had similar problems, if yours has a waster spark coil, take both spark plugs out and attach the HT leads to them, sit the plugs on the exhaust or something that will give a good earth. (they both need to be earthed)

then with the dizzy cap off and with the engine in a position so as the points are closed, ignition on, flick the pints open by hand and watch that both plugs spark together. flick it a number of times to be sure that on every occasion they both give a strong simultaneous spark if they dont try them in different positions, swap leads, if the same plug plays up renew it.

ive never done the timing on a bis, but the manuals describe it simply enough. on the air cooled its easiest to remove the rocker cover, turn the engine until both valves on cylinder 1 (nearest to you) are closed (i.e spring fully released/raised) and that the two valves on cylinder 2 are level. the notch on the crank pully should be in line with the timing marks. Line the notch up with the marker that indicates 10 degrees before tdc. then release the dizzy clamp nut so that you can turn the dizzy, twist the dizzy so that the points are just about to open and job done.

check that the rocker cover isnt cranked down so hard that its holding the rockers down.
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: Pete126 on March 19, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
Or if you have access to a strobe light connect it between the plug lead and the plug,  disconnect the vacuum advance pipe from the distributor, then get someone to crank the engine on the key while you adjust the distributor until the notch on the pulley aligns with the 10 deg mark on the block when the light flashes.

P.S. if you need to pick-up a live feed for the strobe you can connect the + to the large post on the back of the starter motor. - down to the body or engine block [-/
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: soulboy on March 19, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
Thanks for the info chaps,good news shes up and running,yes it was the timing......a mile out
ran her for 15 mins no problems apart from water temp gauge only reading around 85-90
is this right ?????   
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: Pete126 on March 19, 2011, 10:10:44 PM
Good News!  Did you here the fan cutting in ??? And keep an eye on the temp gauge :)
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: soulboy on March 20, 2011, 03:39:31 PM
Cheers for that Pete
no the fan didnt switch on.what temp does it work at
thanks again guys.... 
Title: Re: Wont Start
Post by: Pete126 on March 20, 2011, 07:15:08 PM
It should kick in between 1/2 to 3/4 on the gauge