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Fiat 126 Chat => Fiat 126 Mechanical Problem Solving => Topic started by: tomviam on May 30, 2017, 05:04:46 PM

Title: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on May 30, 2017, 05:04:46 PM
Hi guys, I have unmounted the engine and changed all the seals and worn parts.
Here is the thing,when I sent the camshaft to rectify,they asked me for the valve seals, when I removed the valve springs and took them out, I didnt see any seals. So first question, do the valves have a seal? (Please God tell me not!)

Second, I was replacing the clutch and when I was removing the bearing spring,its hold by 2 kindda springs,one of them literally flied and God know where it landed, I didn't see it. I have been trying the whole day looking for it on the internet,on allegro and some other sites and no success...can you please help me?
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: Xylaquin on May 30, 2017, 07:13:45 PM
I'm not sure about your first question, but regarding the clutch bearing spring, do you mean this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-500-126-127-PANDA-COPPIA-FERMI-CUSCINETTO-FRIZIONE-4127040-/150730918997
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on June 01, 2017, 08:00:17 AM
first question is about the orings inside the valves guide, to avoid the oil to get into the cilinder.

second, yes, thats what I mean, but the shipping costs are 9eur xD
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: ChrisRLewis on June 01, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-126-127-128-CINQ-PANDA-UNO-X1-9-X1-9-CLUTCH-RELEASE-BEARING-CLIPS-4127040-/272611687594?hash=item3f78ec3caa:g:tBwAAOSw~gRVohY~
touch cheaper ;)
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on June 01, 2017, 02:03:40 PM
damn, its like 1 zl on allegro.pl xD

what about the first question? I need to know if the valves have orings/seals... when I unmounted them I didnt see anything but they might have been destroyed after 39 years without maintenance...
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: Xylaquin on June 01, 2017, 09:46:41 PM
damn, its like 1 zl on allegro.pl xD

what about the first question? I need to know if the valves have orings/seals... when I unmounted them I didnt see anything but they might have been destroyed after 39 years without maintenance...

lol everything is cheaper on Allegro (the trick is translation and stock!)

As for your first question, which engine do you have?
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: Pete126 on June 01, 2017, 10:21:55 PM
Not sure on the air cooled but on the Bis they have valve stem oil seals on the inlet valves :)
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: drcdb15 on June 01, 2017, 10:48:18 PM
,when I sent the camshaft to rectify,they asked me for the valve seals,

I appreciate I'm not familiar with the Bis engine (if indeed this is a Bis) nor with camshaft re-profiling etc, but can anyone explain to me what on earth valve stem seals have to do with the camshaft? Why would you need to know anything at all about the valve stem seals to regrind or profile a camshaft ???
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on June 02, 2017, 09:00:54 AM
no its not the BIS its the air colled Fiat 126 (1978)

I have found this on allegro:
http://allegro.pl/oring-zaworow-126p-fso-i6825197380.html

But again, when I unmounted the valves springs I didnt see anything... but I need to be sure just in case
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: ChrisRLewis on June 02, 2017, 10:54:44 AM
Looks like only the inlet valves should have seals fitted.
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: Rusty's Uncle on June 02, 2017, 11:52:43 AM
The air cooled cars just had those simple O-ring seals on the inlet valves  :)
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on June 05, 2017, 04:59:19 PM
damn it! need to unmount and mount the valves again :(
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on July 09, 2017, 03:37:34 PM
The air cooled cars just had those simple O-ring seals on the inlet valves  :)
hi, can you please tell me where d these orings must be placed?
I dont see where should they fit.
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on July 09, 2017, 03:39:01 PM
Not sure on the air cooled but on the Bis they have valve stem oil seals on the inlet valves :)
do you know where should they be installed?
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: Rusty's Uncle on July 09, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
When the valve is pushed into the head then the o-ring pushes over the valve stem before you fit the valve springs  :)
Title: Re: Fiat 126 clutch bearing spring and valve seals. Need help!
Post by: tomviam on July 10, 2017, 09:53:10 AM
When the valve is pushed into the head then the o-ring pushes over the valve stem before you fit the valve springs  :)
sorry but i dont get it :D
before or after you place the cones?