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Fiat 126 Chat => Your Restorations => Topic started by: pietschokkenbroek on September 30, 2012, 04:36:09 PM
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Hello, I hope you are not going to hate me for my choice of engine.. :$
I would like to share the project I am working on at the moment. I bought the 126 (1976) 1,5 year ago and wanted to do an engine swap. At first I went for an Honda VFR750 motorcycle engine (Great sound!!) but this turned out to be way to much work without being to sure how it would end..
So I started looking for small (affordable) engines. My idea was to use the original fiat gearbox and wanted the engine to fit in the engine compartment (without any extention regarding the bodywork). It turned out that a Toyota Aygo engine would make a nice fit.
To make a (very..) long story a bit shorter I went for the option of putting the engine transversal and using the Aygo gearbox. The foto's shows you a mock-up of the progress so far.
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I know this goes against what the purests believe but I love an engine swap.
Good luck with it and upload lots of photos.
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Oooooh! That is an interesting project.
I assume brakes will be upgraded as the Aygo could do about 100MPH 67BHP ;-)
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oooh, you'll haVe to share an audio clip!
What did you do with the old engine? It's a 594cc, if you've still got it I'd be intersted subject to price and postage! ;D
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that's a nice choice.
very nice engine fit, and the 3 pot is a nice engine
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Very interesting project. I would love to see if it works. Please keep us posted. Hope it does not end up like so many others, as an unfinished project.
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Thanks for all your reactions! I'll keep you posted!
What did you do with the old engine? It's a 594cc, if you've still got it I'd be intersted subject to price and postage! ;D
The original engine is in the one of the pictures below. Interested? Postage alone will set you back at least 160 Euros...
Very interesting project. I would love to see if it works. Please keep us posted. Hope it does not end up like so many others, as an unfinished project.
At this point I could point out how determent I am to finish this, in a few months time and all to the highest standard... But I am not going to... I really love working on this project with all the engineering challenges but no one knows what the future brings and priorities can change.
pictures below show some of the challenges ahead (wiring) and the milling required to adapt the gearbox for mounting in its new position. I had to turn the gearbox to get the diff in front of the engine. Fiatos gave me the idea of turning the gearbox.
I turned the gearbox abaut 180°, cause it's not possible to turn the diff in her housing.
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Please keep sending your comments, those are real morale boosters!
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A small update of what I have been doing this weekend (about the car that is!! ;D)
I fabricated a (very simple) enginestand. This way it is much easier to move the block around, as it will be out of the car several times I guess!
Next up: beginning to sort out the wiring :headscratch:!! The guy of wich I bought the engine from (and a lots of other stuff) said it was just plug and play, Yea right. I had to connect several connectors (more than 20!!) I connected a small motorcycle battery and turned the ignitionkey.... I don't have fuel lines connected, but was supprised that al the dash lights worked and the startermotor turned :yahoo: :yahoo:
next: connect fuel lines and see what happens...
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WoW Piet, That's scarry! But good to no that everything lights up ;D I think your a very brave man :thumbup
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One small step for pietschokkenbroek, one giant leap for CLUB126UK ;D
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Fingers crossed here.
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Looks nice,,,
When im finished with mine build we can do a race!!! :D
I am building a fiaprilia, a 1000cc 2 cilinder aprilia bike engine in mine fiat,
For some progress foto's
http://www.aprilia-riders.nl/forum/index.php?topic=20656.0
Gertjan
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Thanks guys! :secret: But all the credit should be for the Toyota people who came up with so many different connectors that they will only fit the right way. It is realy amazing, and it works!
Last tuesday I bought some more Aygo parts.. Radiator, front wheelhubs, alternator, fuelpump (including fuel level unit, smart!) and another piece of wiringloom (the part used in the back of the Aygo) to connect the fuelpump!
Poured some petrol in a bucket :$ dropped the pump in... and tried to start. Nothing happend :headscratch:. After connecting all 7 (!) earth points of the wiring, the engine came alive :yahoo:
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Here is an update of what I've been doing last week (besides guessing cars on this forum ;))
Because of some unfortunate calculations (basically none whatsoever ;D ) I had to modify the olie pan of the engine in order to get the right drive shaft to the right wheel. The result turned out rather nice, I think (bit proud :thumbup )
My good friend and photographer Gideon was there to capture the progress.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8047/8108519260_211897ff36.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8053/8108512945_68fea7d335.jpg)
( :( Can't get more then two photos uploaded, what am I doing wrong?)
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Very nice work Piet, the small engines these days are helpfull for engine swap projects, you're not that far from me so I may pop in one day to see your work, will notify beforehand ofcourse.
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Hey Da Londo, Thank you! If you're in the neighbourhood let me know! How is your car coming along?
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WOW!! This job is amazing! Thank you for keeping us updated on your progress!!!! Im very impressed in all of the love that your putting into the car. I only wish I had the time to do what your doing. One of these days... Keep up the amazing project, im real excited to see her up and running!
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Thank you very much, Seabee!! I trying to do my best, and it does take a lot of time, but I am enjoying
every ;D most minutes of it!!
I am following the starting problems of your car. It's great to drive one of these cars, especially in Italy!!
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nice job, any idea on the gearing,as the Aygo used 14 inch wheels so i imagine that you will have excellent accelaration but not much top end i think im right in saying that the biggest tyre to fit under a standard rear arch is a 155/70r13. what about gearbox oil level ? you may need to over fill to make sure the gears dont run dry
im currently looking into the vauxhall/opel corsa 973cc 3 cylinder engine fitted in the older corsa's because they ran on 13 " wheels so gearing should be reasonable and whole cars can be purchased for about £300/400. im just waiting for a reasonable mot failure corsa in my general area
good luck with the build and keep the photo's coming :thumbup
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Thanks Ronb. Please correct me if I am wrong but I thought because the Toyota runs on lower tyres the difference is relatively small (see tabel).
Indeed the oil level in the gearbox is something I am not very convinced about... But because there are all rotating gears, oil willl be tossed around anyway. I will probably stay very focussed on grinding noise that might appear.
I didn't know Corsas were fitted with 3 cilinder engines these days. Sounds like a sensible option. I'll be keeping an eye on your posts!!
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Could you send us the link for the tyre diameter calculator please Piet, people are always asking about that, will be handy to have on the forum.
Cheers
Marc
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Could you send us the link for the tyre diameter calculator please Piet, people are always asking about that, will be handy to have on the forum.
Cheers
Marc
http://club126uk.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2332.0
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Cheers Pete, hadn't seen that before :$
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use it wisely! ;)
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This week I recieved some parts to continue with the drive shafts. I also ordered a chrome rear bumper ;D It might be a bit early for this but I would like to see if I can make a nice exhaust outlet under the bumper.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8131072032_18f04396f5.jpg)
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Brand new bumper? Where did you find this?
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I found it at a dutch supplier: fiat vd Laan.
http://www.fiat126vdlaan.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=28
If you need help with translations, let me know.
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Are those the modiffied C.V joints to replace the rubber type ?
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Yes correct! I think they are probably the weakest link in the driveline. Besides, I need them to compensate for the extra angle in de shafts.
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I have been fiddling with the gear linkage ::) I want to use the aygo gearstick mechanism (which is a brilliant but simple working piece of engineering :thumbup) which in
real live the aygo is turned front to back. On the gearbox itselfs are two levers that need to be operated. The photos show the mock-up of the sollution I came up with... If I did my homework correctly :headscratch: the gearshift pattern is as it should be. :thumbup
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8478/8176215625_c6a48d7beb_n.jpg)
Toyota Aygo shift mechanism (I still have to find a way to make the push-pull-cables longer) The photo also shows the hole I had to make to fit the alternator :(
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8176214767_293010edc5_n.jpg)
I said it was just a mock-up :$
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Hope this helps
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Light-Weight-Gear-Change-Cable-Kit-Car-Rally-Car-2500mm-/170312255829
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Yes, that is the piece of kit that I was looking for, but I think it's very hard to get precise the one with the right lenght and endings. In my garage I found a pair of tray guides (I think I know what your thinking, but yes I am a bit cocky ;D) see if I can use those...
(http://www.bouwshoponline.nl/picture/productfoto/detail/050021-30195.jpg)
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scrol down to bottom of page and look on left side in SHOP CATAGORIES they do all fittings and make cables to whatever lenght you like. As for the draw runners the little bearings will fall out in no time
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Yes Ron you are right! I should have taken a closer look ( :o ) In this case I think it is hard to order the right cable with my exact required specifications :$. I will ask some local companies, see what they come up with.
I welded the gear lever in place, but am not really pleased with the result :cry:. I let it rest for now...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8484/8209719638_cf1b5e08a7.jpg)
This weekend some more wire fiddling!! Tried to locate all (!!) the airbag sensors, squib(connectors) and whatnots and ditched them! This really cleaned up! Still a long way to go
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8347/8208637025_7650274488.jpg)
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I can`t wait to see the end result, this is looking like a great project :thumbup
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Thanks!! I do my best not to disapoint you!! :D
My friend Gideon dismanteled the center dash binnacle. Together with the actual ECU this is part of the Aygo nerve center!! I want to keep the Fiat dash looking as original as possible, but try to incorporate as much as Toyota tech as possible ;D. By splitting the binnacle and extending (a hell of a lot of :headscratch:) wires, we hope to place the the speed indicator in the original Fiat binnacle, which is a lot smaller! ( :$ wish me luck...)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8199/8209725866_0be1c0c492.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8108502115_47713e8ea4.jpg)
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:secret: Still working on the wiring! Like I said earlier, I want to incorporate the Toyota centre dash in to the Fiat's. My girlfriend (she's a great grafic designer! :thumbup: ) started working on designing a new dail for the binnacle, more to come soon!!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8199/8259211654_3ccef9834f.jpg)
And I want to replace the Fiat switches for the Toyota's because the switches, contol lights and relays are integrated in the wiring loom.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8355/8258144031_415ed52d61.jpg)
This is what it will look like (I know the interior :shy: doesn't look very tidy yet)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8496/8258143919_0f93114a02.jpg)
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Ooh Scary :o Your doing a grand job Piet, look forward to seeing it back on the road next year keep up the momentum :D
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Thanks Pete! :thumbup
:o Next year!! :headscratch: I'll do my best :D
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Hi Piet,
it looks like very good.
My electrician job I have next year, If I changed the 8V carburettor enginen between the 16V injektion engine.
http://www.fiat-126-forum.de/thread.php?postid=93486
My birthplace is near your place of resindence. Maybe we see us.
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:thumbup Thank you (philipp?) I really like what you are doing with the Alfa engine (I had a Alfa 33 a long time ago :D) I am very exited to seen what happens with the 16 valve engine installed!!
I would like to meet in the new year! please give me time to get the car running....
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The first week in 2013 I'm in Steinfurt. Maybe we can meet us. When is your car running?
Tadoy I worked on the flywheel from the 16V.....
Please sent me your E-MAil address: [email protected]
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The first week in 2013 I'm in Steinfurt. Maybe we can meet us. When is your car running?
Tadoy I worked on the flywheel from the 16V.....
Please sent me your E-MAil address: [email protected]
Fiatos/Phillips Did you recive my email?
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What you are endeavouring to do, is quite amazing. Keep up the good work!!! Try to document all that you are doing, accompanied by photos as well.
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Brilliant idea! Much braver than me for trying it!
Once it is finished you will have to bring it over to the UK to show it off!!
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:thumbup Thanks guys! great to hear, that motivates me! :)
I've got much of the electrics in place. Gideon took the Toyo-dash-PCB home to desolder the SMD-LED's and is going to put them on a new PCB that fits in the Fiat binnacle.
Sorry no photos yet but don't worry I will be bothering you with those shortly! ;)
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Just found this, Imp with an Aygo engine. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HILLMAN-IMP-3-CYLINDER-RESTORATION-PROJECT-CAR-/200886019917?
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Yep, I came across this build-thread a while ago. I thinks it's the same..
http://forum.theimpclub.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=15902
Meanwhile: over here it's too cold... I'll be back though :D
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pffff :$ It took me a while... We took the Toyota binnacle apart and started to extend the wires of the display. Full of hope we reconnected it, but ..... It didn't work ??? I am now troubleshooting the wiring :headscratch: Yesterday we went out for another set of wiringloom (thankfully with closed wallet this time :thumbup Thanks Bas!!) This moring: with the new loom connected:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8497/8437978764_70eacc9e36_c.jpg)
Now I want to find out what went wrong with the (old-) altered wiring....
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Let me give you an overview of the work I've carried out regarding the wiring.
This is all the Toyota wiring... ;D
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8517/8440183617_c1996c49d2_c.jpg)
But becaus the enigine is in the back I had to modify this part of the loom.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8441275170_4516f60237_c.jpg)
I found some cable with enough wires for the extension.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8363/8441274424_9c4e11b1f7_c.jpg)
With this cable I could even incorporate the wires for the rear lights.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8468/8441274684_dc791cfafc_c.jpg)
Most of the wiring is more or less in place. :)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8441273434_813da85a75_c.jpg)
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looks good. Especially the electrics is always a lot more work than I thought. You see, the brain has already been invested much lard in it.
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looks good. Especially the electrics is always a lot more work than I thought. You see, the brain has already been invested much lard in it.
Thanks Philipp!!
(I've found german: Gehirnschmalz, now I know what you mean.... and thanks again!! :D )
But I think everybody wants to know how your project is coming along!!
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But I think everybody wants to know how your project is coming along!!
You are right. It's time to write a little bit....
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My friend Gideon finished the fiddly job of soldering the wires to make the new binnacle. And the LEDs works :D
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8392/8492023785_947acc78bc_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8251/8492024981_f32fcc9e22_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8232/8492025261_932d5a98bf_c.jpg)
Among some other things ;D, I will start making a new dail.
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See if you can spot what I got as a birthday present ;D
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8493125232_be9b3692ff_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8493125474_8b9dddf922_c.jpg)
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See if you can spot what I got as a birthday present ;D
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8493125232_be9b3692ff_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8493125474_8b9dddf922_c.jpg)
Mmmm new key ring? ;D looks great. Happy Birthday.
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Happy Birthday!
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Yes, Thank you :) another year older (and wiser ::))
Together with my girlfriend we designed a new dail. I thought it would be nice to have 126 into it! (and I know 240 km/h, I am an optimist! ;D
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8521/8546026846_abb8165d62_c.jpg)
A few hours of fiddling and making use of the foil cutter at http://fablabarnhem.nl/ this is what came out of it. The '126' will be added later.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8390/8546030134_0c95587ea8_c.jpg)
I am pretty pleased, but think the icons are a bit to big...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8544932537_7b0a932fbd_c.jpg)
This is more or less what I had in mind: looking original, but with a modern touch.
The last photo, I made a start with the hydraulic clutch...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8089/8546027966_06d8161977_c.jpg)
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OK I'm back on the job, it was too cold to get anything done... ::)
I've been working with glass fiber to adapt some of the plastic aygo parts to the Fiat.
First the gear shift mechanism.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8103/8635717756_917f6b9582_c.jpg)
Trial fit in the car
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8542/8634612021_15b9917901_c.jpg)
And the radiator which is largely made of plastic as well
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8251/8635720984_0dac249bfd_c.jpg)
more soon... :D
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Looking good ;)
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I hope you don´t have cooling problems in Present with your rear mounted cooler.
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.. Ive been capsulated by this guys enthusiasm, skill and above all smart thinking. What a fantastic write up.
My wifes car is a Citroen C1, which uses ( I think), the same 3 cyl engine common rail toyota lump, and is returning 60 mpg , so you should be saving a heap of fuel. Well done. Mike.
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Thanks Tate!
I hope you don´t have cooling problems in Present with your rear mounted cooler.
Yes I know, all the choises in life.... ;) I want to give it a try first and we will see...
.. Ive been capsulated by this guys enthusiasm, skill and above all smart thinking. What a fantastic write up.
My wifes car is a Citroen C1, which uses ( I think), the same 3 cyl engine common rail toyota lump, and is returning 60 mpg , so you should be saving a heap of fuel. Well done. Mike.
... :$ ... Thank you... :thumbup
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This is a great project! I am really enjoying following the progress.
Well done!
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:) Thank you all for your support!!
This is a great project! I am really enjoying following the progress.
Well done!
There is still a lot to do, so stay tuned!! :thumbup
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Nice oil pan!
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Nice oil pan!
Thanks Phillip! I guess, in the near future I have to start washing my hands before I get to work on the car :D
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Been working on the gearshift mechanism. It takes time but, bespoke made parts always fit like a glove :D. I hope you agree it looks better than my first attempt:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8484/8209719638_cf1b5e08a7.jpg)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8399/8695914902_b284395a96_c.jpg)
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Yes, it is starting to look very good indeed ;)
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Thanks Tate!
I had some final welding carried out on the gearbox to get it mounted properly.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7286/8733166086_8616cb82a1_c.jpg)
Ready to go in!
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/8732048271_4f0d407c0e_c.jpg)
I made a bracket (mounted on the original gearbox mounting points) to keep the engine in place.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5462/8815915068_0ccd3706bc_c.jpg)
Removed the drive couplings. One has been 'repaired' using silicone sealant ::).
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5456/8805331243_3631a14297_c.jpg)
When dismantling the Toyota shafts, I found this ???...
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2890/8805329595_7c4080750e_c.jpg)
Did some cutting.. ;D
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5445/8805330547_a3837d69b2_c.jpg)
Made some measurements, did some of the remaining metal bits in a box and send it to the company who promised me to make something usable out of it! My patience is put to the test 8)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8253/8805331641_c4d44a4074_c.jpg)
That's all for now...
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:D
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Brilliant work. Very much looking forward to seeing this finished. :)
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Thanks Norman!
It turned out that the short shaft is not going to work.... The angles it has to make are to big for this short shaft.... :-X Cock-up!! :-X I think the only option (besides putting the old engine back in :P) is to move the engine a little to the right ???. So I started up the angle grinder.. Is has moved approx. 2 inches.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/9203402760_a69958e135_c.jpg)
When is have both engine mounts in place there'll be more photos.
On with the gearshifter (plan B). I am now going for the Aygo 'cables'. But I had to come up with a adapter to change the pull in a push motion en visa versa....
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/9203403776_0e55d7493f_c.jpg)
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Any news on the project? Darrel just posted this. http://club126uk.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8286
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Any news on the project?
After the debacle with the drive shaft, it's back to the drawing board :P
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XdLO1Adz3KA/UFDuZPDYBKI/AAAAAAAAJhM/dv4-GBlcm9A/s1600/car-drawing-tips-luciano-bove.jpeg)
I modified the engine mounts on the car... Another advantage is that there is now more room for the radiator.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/9401712237_c0d4844dfe_c.jpg)
the next hurdle is to come up with a brilliant route for the exhaust... :headscratch: (it's on the wrong side of the engine! ???)
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haha, looking good so far though, its really coming along. There are a lot of these projects with different engines going on eBay because people give up!
Keep up the good work, cant wait to see the finished thing!
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Sorted some of the engine compartment wiring... Still looking for the best place to put the ecu..
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5509/9488529390_fb6abddc99_c.jpg)
I am about to order parts to make the exhaust system. And ordering drive shafts 'round two!! ;D)
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Looks good! I'm also still missing drive shafts.... blaaaaah... :$ :-X
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Thanks Tate!, good luck with your shafts!
I've been pondering about the car. I thought it was a Italian car build in Poland. And by putting a Toyota engine in it it would have a Japanese hart... right? It turns out there is more to it then I thought... Let me take you on a little trip...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5499/9485730309_725d0f8592_c.jpg)
The car is build in Poland,
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7378/9488527020_5c1994b7cd_c.jpg)
As is the (new) Toyota wiper mechanism. But the wiper motor is French ::)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5337/9485728865_06d5356902_c.jpg)
So is the oil filter.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5549/9485728447_31aeda7439_c.jpg)
the blower motor is czech.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3744/9485729435_fa0a989738_c.jpg)
The alternator is from Italy.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/9485731865_7070963294_c.jpg)
The ECU is made in Hungary.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2888/9485730739_e6335af133_c.jpg)
Some of the relays came out of Portugal..
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/9485731075_76c150d50a_c.jpg)
Or indeed Japan.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7398/9485731457_254437b0fc_c.jpg)
And I will even have some german quality on board! :P
All the parts have travelled more than the car it selves the last years! :$
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Buahahahah.. that's funny!!! :D :wave
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You have quite the mutt on your hands now!!! :P
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Amazing work, Piet, I am curious to see the super 126 on the roads!
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Thanks guys!! :)
Returned from our holliday I found this in the mail :D:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/9969149736_f307ce56ee_c.jpg)
It's a pedal set from an Aygo.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2873/9969151906_78ee8d8581_b.jpg)
I'll try this weekend to see if I can use it to operate the clutch.
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:D :D :D :D :D
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Before reading this I thought someone had bought you a playmobil set as a joke!!
Looks nice and shiny though!
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Time for an update...
The clutch mechanism seems to work... :yahoo:
A few weeks ago I've sent another set of (toyota & Fiat) drive shafts to my 'shaft-specialist-company'. I'd included a drawing of what I wanted: shafts with fiat splines on one side and toyota splines on the other side... This is what I recived yesterday: :cry: Now I can connect a fiat gearbox with a toyota box... Not what I had hoped for...
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Finally....
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trial fit..
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:D
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I thought that my drive shaft angle would be steep but yours looks more crazy than mine :D I hope that your drivetrain design will work ::) ;)
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I hope that your drivetrain design will work ::) ;)
:$ me too...
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I've been busy with some other projects, not really suited for this forum....
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But I'm back on the job! More soon..... ;)
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The clutch mechanism will probably work ... The construction under the hood looks pretty hilarious though ;D
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I made a start with the exhaust. I'm using the Aygo muffler and some universal piping. No idea where this project ends, but for now at least it has greatly improved my welding skills :-X
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What a great topic! Volgens mij nederlands, but i will type in english for other users.
I came to your topic cause I had the same idea of using an aygo/1kr engine but then in a fiat 500. So I will follow your progression step by step!
I was wondering what do you think of the idea of turning the engine 180 degrees, so no need of cutting and turning the gearbox, with as a result that your driving shafts will turn the wrong side. To solve this I thought of using 2 volkswagen reduction boxes. This will also compensate for two other problems: the steep angle from gearbox to the wheels, and also the change in ratio of using the small diameter wheels of the fiat( using the reduction box the other way around).
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A great topic and like to see more pictures coming! Btw I saw chiptunung of this engine resulting in 12 hp increase! :D
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Hee Vjenne, this sounds like a brilliant idea! Did you start the build already?
ps: ik heb je een persoonlijk bericht gestuurd.
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Hi Pete, nice thread to read! :). I have an off the road BIS at the moment and engine swaps have intregued me. Good to see you trying something out and persevering on!
btw I love the netherlands, I need to visit soon!
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Thanks Poxxxy! :thumbup
Meanwhile I've been busy with constructing something that eventually start to look like an exhaust! (i'm exhausted :lol: )
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I think the exhaust is complete.. Still searching for a (slightly) larger end-piece (but shorter..). The hole in the rear valance needs to be bigger too, :headscratch: but you get the idea..
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The engine can still be 'pulled out' on a trolley in one piece...
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That is utter genius. Really nice way of doing maintenance!
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Thanks Jonny! It's basically the only way to get the coolant hoses connected ;)
This is not really an update. I'm a bit struggling to get the engine running. Sometimes it runs ( :yahoo:) and then is doesn't ( :headscratch:) So I went to my project sponsor Bas from Libacars in Barendrecht to get an set of immobilizer electronics and a few weeks later for an extra fuelpump. I am going to try this week, I'll keep you posted!
In the meantime I made this clip, shot at the Libacars workshop and some of my own tinkering at home.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Hx7Bmm4vg[/youtube]
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Great clip, Great work, but we need to see it running ;D
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Great clip, Great work, but we need to see it running ;D
Grrrr, I know!!
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Very nice clip!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Phillip!
This afternoon friend Gideon helped (I didn't do much ::)) restoring my wiring loom fumbling, look what happened :beer:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CopDxQEETyM&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
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ha awesome! Its aliveee!!!
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It's running! Yeah!!!!!
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And you have been busy, great to see it running!
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I'm very sorry it took me so long....
I have been busy the last year though.
Most of my spare time we spend upgrading an old pigs barn so we can use it for our woodworking projects.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noymyGgXwyk[/youtube]
Of course I needed to work
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHqztVcWHw[/youtube]
And we spend our occasional holliday
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwI6u5tEK8[/youtube]
I'll be back (...) Right now I am tidying up our garage to get back on the job. More soon!
Piet
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Great clip, Great work, but we need to see it running ;D
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:secret:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvp4-UM0RV4[/youtube]
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Hey Piet the new tablets must be working :P Should be ready for RR this year ;D
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Woo! I was talking to DeVille Chris about this car only last week. So please to see some updates!
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Thanks Rob, I know it took me way too long...
Hey Pete!, RR17 :headscratch:?
Spring is in the air the sun is out, the sound of birds and angle grinder. ::)
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Hopefully this will be in epoxy primer by the end of te week...
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If you experience a complete lack of structure to this build.... you are absolutely right, so am I.... ( ??? :P)
Some pictures:
Epoxy primed the inside. (makes it look more tidy ;D ) When I get under the car and find rustholes to big I will tackle them, for now I leave them as is.
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We played around with a Raspberry Pi combined with a OBDII interface-thing. We're able to get readings of temperature, revs etc. Hopfully we can use this to incoporate in the dash...I need my computerprogrammer friend to do this!
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We added some sexy stuff to the (front-) suspension...
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Right now I am rebuilding the front suspension and steering...
Thanks for watching!
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And we did some extensive test driving round the premises :D
[youtube]https://youtu.be/VDjXqDbDyoo[/youtube]
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Fantastic conversion buddy :thumbup has to be the best and most practical engine swap I've seen yet :D .......... Why people mess around with bike engines I'll never know
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Fantastic Piet, nearly there :)
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Wow!
Only just come across this build, but amazing work Piet, great engineering.... and perseverance!
Oh, and that vid is delight, especially at 1:29 - LMAO! (http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/laugh.gif)
Well done!
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:)Thank you all! :D
Still working on it, not as much progress as I'd hoped for ::)
I'm converting the front brakes to Aygo disks...
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Upgrading the front suspension and brakes has kept me bussy the last few months. As I may have mentioned before, the Aygo parts are been made available by my project sponsor :D. So for me the challanges of getting them to fit ???. Originally these brakes are fitted inside a 14 inch wheel, I want to try and make them it in an 13 inch rim....
I can tell you that's tight....
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First I changed the front hubs to the newer type, with 4x98 PCD.
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Made templates out of plywood...
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made brackets from steel
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And hey presto ;D
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it all seemed to work, except that brake fluid was leaking from the brake pedal on the floor. I hope that a new master brake cylinder improves this... ;)
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finally, sorry it took me ::) so long. I've been working on the car occasionally.
I reinforced and finished the engine mounts
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The rear wishbones are powder coated and fitted with new bushings
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Installing the new wheel bearings was a !@#$%^ job
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the engine has been placed again (engine compartment has already been painted green).
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To boost morale I wanted to start with the outside (long story short...
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We are going to tackle the spraying work in stages. Well, it's not perfect, but I'm super happy with the result
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Looking good Piet, should be finished for next years shows ;D
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/61CUZRs8Ij0[/youtube]
silly season / "cucumber time" :D ;)
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Stunning! 😍