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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2015, 10:28:13 PM »
Ok cool, won't do that then! cheers for the heads up!

just snapped these beauties up:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161771258831?_ilink&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l4459&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI161771258831.N9.S1.M-6.R1.TR5

seems like they should fit! will i need longer bolts?
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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2015, 10:43:14 PM »
They look nice!
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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2015, 08:25:34 AM »
Yeah they do! I'm chuffed :)

Thought i was gunna get them for 40 quid until the last second though haha! ::)

Now just need some tyres
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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2015, 10:54:07 AM »
What profile tyres will i need? Also whats the best width to go for? 165?

They are 5j

Any reccomendations for spirited driving? :)
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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2015, 05:08:31 PM »
Have a look here:

http://www.tyresizecalculator.com/tyre-wheel-calculators/tyre-size-for-rim-size-width-calculator

and remember that your insurance company will not look too favourably upon "spirited driving" in the event it leads to "spirited crashing"  :cry:

So best perhaps not to push the boundaries *too* far  ;)

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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2015, 05:39:46 PM »
Spirited driving is a bit far fetched in a 126  :P ...... The speed limit is just about achievable  ;D
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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2015, 08:08:57 PM »
yeah you're right haha, might be a bit optimistic! I can only afford cheap ones anyway :(

cheers!
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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2020, 03:07:31 PM »
I guys, I know this is an old post, but I happen to have the exact same model as Joe, a Polish 126 ELX.
I still have the original 12 inch wheels on mine. I read on your posts that a swap for the 13 inch wheels with PCD 4x98 is a straight through job.
I always wanted to have bigger wheels on my 126. I think that they look nicer and should be a slightly smoother ride. My question (though maybe a stupid one ::)) is regarding the wheel arches. Won't there be the problem with the possibility the front wheels will touch the arches when turning?
I've seen some for sale sale in my country (Portugal) that are 5.5x13 4x98 65mm. I believe the 5.5 is the width, right? What about the 65mmm? They were from a fiat punto does anyone know if this will fit?
I "fell in love" with the following, but I thing they are too expensive.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Fondmetal-GT5-wheels-4x98-5-5x13-split-Fiat-Lancia-Abarth-Autobianchi/174124309267?hash=item288a9e1b13:g:p90AAOSwT75d81yj

Will appreciate any input someone may have.
 
 

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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2020, 03:03:13 PM »
the 65mm should be the offset which is the distance from the rim to the hub face.
I don't remember what the fiat 126 off set is, but looking at those wheels they will sit further into the wheel arch, which could cause a problem when turning
Can you visit and compare them?
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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2020, 08:52:57 PM »
Pete.      il cavallo piccolo

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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2020, 08:56:51 PM »
Thank you guys.

So according to the site Pete shared, the offset for the 126 is 58mm, same as most Fiat models. Am I seeing this correctly? So if I get some rims that previously belong to one of that models I will be in the clear regarding the offset, correct?

I found some aluminium wheels that I really liked,(in Poland  :cry:) and they are not so cheap, (specially because I will have to recondition them as well). With the transport costs, I'm not sure it will be worth it:

https://allegro.pl/oferta/alufelgi-o-z-4x98-13-fso-polonez-fiat-125p-8599127428

I think these were from a 126 originally (don't know a Fiat 125  ???), so I'm positive they would fit. Which kinda answers my initial question about the rim diameter 13 being to big for the wheel arches.

On the other hand I found these very close to home, which I don't like as much, but they're not bad. And they are much more affordable with no need for any work to be done, and including the tires (I think):

https://www.standvirtual.com/anuncio/jantes-especiais-fiat-13-155-70-13-ID8NKv0k.html?utm_source=olx.pt&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=search_results_link

Well I'me still in the browsing and learning chapter. However there's something that someone just pointed out to me that most Fiat models have a locating pin on the hub (which I could spot on my 126, dah, I knew it but didn't remember  :$), but I could not see any hole on these rims (or many other Fiat rims). Is that because the face of the rim is further out, and the hole for it is on the inside?

Most probably I will settle for the later ones, although I will always feel a wee bit annoyed that I didn't fit my little Maluch with the "ones".

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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2020, 09:00:26 AM »
I'm running 175/50 R13 on a 35mm lowered set up. It's fine on the strights and the larger tyres can be run at 15psi so you can run stiffer suspension so still have a qusie smooth rides. But there is tire scrub when turning more then a typical road bend so parking can be a challenge.

They are steel rims R13 5inch wide

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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2020, 10:48:46 PM »
Ricardo - from the site that Pete sent, the 58mm is the centre bore size (CB), not the offset.
The offset is known as ET, which is the short form of the German word 'Einpresstiefe' which literally translates as 'insertion depth'

I'm running Cinquecento 5.5 x 13 with 165/55 x 13 - no clearance problems although these will be replaced soon with slotmags which have more offset. I'm expecting to have to modify the wheel arches.
I have Cinquecento discs and had to fit a 5mm spacer at the front.

The car wont ever carry 4 people as it has Smart car front seats which reduce access to the rear anyway plus I'm more interested in the look than carrying 4 people.
Rear springs are cut down by 1 coil with cut down bump stops.
The front spring has the 3rd leaf flipped, the mounts reduced by 10mm and the bump stops cut down - but it's not yet as low as I want.



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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2020, 03:55:31 PM »
Hi guys,

Sorry, I've been for quite some time without checking the forum.
But now I can "announce" (eheheheh) that I already bought and installed new wheels on my Maluch. It is so proud of itself,  8) eheheheh.
I'm sorry I didn't remember to take some pictures to post here, before I left for my vessel. I will do it whence I get back home.
 
After some long search online for suitable rims I finally came upon some cheap (but good) wheels that initially belong to a fiat Uno turbo IE and were in a reasonable condition. These are 5.5JxR13. I don't remember exactly the offset but it was a really close fit on the back (we had to bend slightly the protection clip for the oil pipe).

I put 145/70 tires on them. I was really doubting these could fit with such large rims. But the shop that sold me the tires was positive they would. And they did :o. The tires are very rounded because of the difference in width, but I actually like the look. It gives it a retro look. But I'm thinking that maybe 155/65 would look even better. The reason I didn't go for the 155/70 was because I tried before some rims with these size tires, on the front wheels and these touched slightly the wheels arches plastic cover when turning.

I'm thinking on (maybe) fitting a 16mm spacer on the wheels as they are only slightly outer than the original rims (they're the ones I could find on a shop near me). Actually I would like to see how the Maluch would look with them before I commit... ;) But I guess that's not possible... I have to buy them and then if I don't like the look... just try to sell the spacers online.   
 

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Re: 13 inch wheels
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2020, 05:32:47 PM »

The car wont ever carry 4 people as it has Smart car front seats which reduce access to the rear anyway plus I'm more interested in the look than carrying 4 people.

Minijohn, congratulations on the Smart seats idea... I'm afraid I will have to steal it  :$. I think they look great. I was looking for some replacement for the original seats, but I hadn't even started looking for seat that could possibly fit. Now I know which ones. I'm not too worried on losing the possibility to carry people on the back seat. The Maluch is mainly for my missus and I.

I have to ask you, was it too much trouble to fit those seats? If your not offended, by me taking your idea  ;D, would you give some pointers on how to?   

 

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