Fiat 126 Chat => Your Restorations => Topic started by: Gadge on February 16, 2014, 06:45:45 PM

Title: luigi
Post by: Gadge on February 16, 2014, 06:45:45 PM
ok so a new chapter and a new luigi. a 9000 mile BIS it has tax and MOT so is already to go  :) so the plan is to basically pick up from the last one and transfer all the rebuilt and refurbished parts from the old one and onto the new one. work started in earnest on swapping the parts over. so far I've done the following.......

new steering rack,
refurbished hubs with new king pins'
disc brake conversion with crossed drilled discs and OMP pads,
new track rod ends,
new rear drums, shoes and wheel cylinders,
new front shocks,
new brake hoses,
new wheel bearings,

I've also fitted a MK 1 steering wheel for that retro look :D retro is the theme of this car so I got lashings of chrome work to go on after its been stripped down and buffed up.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Kowalski on February 17, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
white 126s are the best... ;D

good work on Luigi II, looking forward to seeing some progress...

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 17, 2014, 06:48:00 PM
Thank you, me too  :D it's either red or white for me and I've already had two red ones. I gave him it's first wash for a LONG time. The grime was thick on and didn't shift easily - especially behind where the bumpers were. I could do with finding out the paint code for that white? Does anyone know what it is? Can't seem to find it anywhere on the car?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: popik81 on February 18, 2014, 11:22:44 PM
bis and old style steering wheel??
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 19, 2014, 07:09:41 AM
Yes that's right it's made of bakerlite I think and came off a MK1. Going for the retro look :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 20, 2014, 08:57:06 PM
Few more pics - better quality this time thanks the photobucket  :D
Here's the disc brake conversion

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/4a35338c-02b3-47b6-9453-7ed3e3dc6043_zpse5222816.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/4a35338c-02b3-47b6-9453-7ed3e3dc6043_zpse5222816.jpg.html)

And here's the rather scruffy luggage compartment - note the crusty battery tray

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/image_zps40a12fcf.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/image_zps40a12fcf.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/image_zps8817f4a7.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/image_zps8817f4a7.jpg.html)


Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Kowalski on February 21, 2014, 12:17:33 PM
powder coated discs: carbo-ceramic?  ;D

No, serious: are you running Panda mkI calipers?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 21, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
No there a new fancy material call steel  ;D

There actually Punto/seicento callipers and a TRS adaptor
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Rusty's Uncle on February 21, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Mk 1 Panda callipers were used on some disc brake conversions. If anyone is interested I have two brand new pairs here  :)
The motor is looking good there bye the way. I know that original is good if you have a minter but it is great to see owners going for their own vision ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 21, 2014, 06:57:31 PM
Thanks rusty  ;D I'm being particularly careful in my alterations from original to retro. Even though it's only done 9000 miles it's not a minter by any standards. Everything that's getting replaced is in a poor state such as the scuffed up bumpers and faded brittle door mirrors right though to the rusty door handles. I'm even fitting lovely steel wheels instead of alloys. I picked them up from the shop today and they look amazing! I can't wait to see them on  :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 23, 2014, 05:04:29 PM
good full day on the car today, the forecasted rain never came which meant I was able to solider on putting things back on. so in went the battery, the jack, the spare and the washer bag. also went on was a new luggage compartment latch.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/002_zps908691ca.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/002_zps908691ca.jpg.html)

then it was all systems go with all the outside stuff, NOS chrome bumpers, NOS rear vents, clear repeaters and front indicators, NOS rear lamps, NOS fiat uno aerial, new door mirror and of course the new refurbished steel wheels which i'm very happy about  :D
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/010_zps1ba9979e.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/010_zps1ba9979e.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/011_zps064b8d43.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/011_zps064b8d43.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/012_zps63de0833.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/012_zps63de0833.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/008_zps2a9c5999.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/008_zps2a9c5999.jpg.html)

jobs on the "to do" list are to fit the chrome door handles get some orange bulbs for the indicators and fit the rear fog and reverse light  :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: judson-126 on February 24, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
looking good mate, where did you get the clear indicators?
cheers jud
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 24, 2014, 10:12:55 PM
Thanks Jud, I got them a while ago off eBay although I have seem them on other sites before
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 03, 2014, 07:45:35 PM
Ok so I finally got round to finishing off luigi and what better way to celebrate than a 150 mile round trip to Monmouth  :D but before that I treated it to a new reverse eye leaf spring.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/012_zpscf40930e.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/012_zpscf40930e.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/007_zps0fe8f1fc.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/007_zps0fe8f1fc.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/006_zpsae649b71.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/006_zpsae649b71.jpg.html)

Few jobs left to do like removing the plastic trim on the side plus plugging the holes from the old bumper
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 15, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
Bit of an update. I've been having issues with the cooling system........ Basically it's crap. It's well documented on here how bad the BIS cooling system is and mine is no exception so to avoid any impending head gasket issues I've fitted a thermostat relocation kit. This nifty little kit relocates the thermostat to the top of the engine where is should've been in the first place.  
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/012_zpse135a2ac.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/012_zpse135a2ac.jpg.html)

While I was at it I decided to pinch the radiator and Uprated cooling fan off the first project as well as replace the coil, plugs and HT leads too
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/016_zpsf5df0c6d.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/016_zpsf5df0c6d.jpg.html)

So far everything works ok, there were a few leaks but they were due to jubilee clips not being tight enough
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/015_zps91fbdc4d.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/015_zps91fbdc4d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: jonny126 on March 15, 2014, 10:27:50 PM
Interesting to hear about the thermostat. Still being new to the 126 I'm starting to hear about the headgasket issues. I was going to replace the one on mine as the car's been sat outside for a good 12 years!

Where'd you get the relocation kit from? Have you noticed any improvement?

Fantastic looking car btw, just picked up some chrome mirrors for mine!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 15, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Thanks  :) yeah the head gasket issues are common on these due to the ridiculous position of the thermostat (at the bottom of the engine) the relocation kit moves it to the top where it's supposed to be. To early to tell if it has improved any but going on what I've read it should be a vast improvement.

I've had the kit a while. I bought it off eBay for an abandoned project unfortunately I hear that the kit is no longer available anymore. If you do experience thermostat problems then just remove it. It'll take a few minutes longer to warm up but it saves a lot of hassle
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 16, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
Fitted a very retro looking grundig tape player today along with an old pioneer speaker which fits pretty well in the corner of the glove shelf

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/059_zpsc73f4be7.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/059_zpsc73f4be7.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/058_zps53911da6.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/058_zps53911da6.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/060_zps680d3313.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/060_zps680d3313.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Kowalski on March 16, 2014, 07:32:23 PM
Hi Gadge,

your retro project is coming along very nicely.
Makes me want to search for a Bis daily runabout...

top marks!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 16, 2014, 09:05:53 PM
Thanks kowalski it's shaping up nicely. I love the look of the early air cooled ones but I also have good faith in the BIS engine over the air cooled ones so I'm trying to make the best of both worlds  ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: jonny126 on March 17, 2014, 08:35:48 PM
Ah ok, I'll keep my eyes peeled but thanks for the tips. I need to flush all the old coolant and oil out first!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 18, 2014, 08:25:22 PM
Ok after three days everything seems ok with the new thermostat. It's behaviour is a lot different from the old one in that it seems to take longer to heat up at the temp gauge however the heater seems to warm up faster than before so although the temp gauge has barely moved, the heater has stated to blow reasonably warm air by the time I've driven it about a mile or two so satisfied with that.

I also fitted these lovely yellow continental style bulbs  :D

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/image_zps25270086.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/image_zps25270086.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 30, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
Over heating woes are getting the better of this little car, I belive the culprit (or culprits) are poorly fitted jubilee   Clips and may well be leaking air into the system. On the plus side I fitted some chrome wiper arms and mud flaps

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/1d290f2459fbb40aa7af50332d031615_zps1a0bbff3.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/cc596f2836749829d32f0f367c201a16_zpsf2d66b4d.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: yorker740 on April 03, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
I like the wiper arms, where did you get them?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 03, 2014, 08:36:13 PM
They were NOS items (new old stock) that I bought off eBay. The fitted various fiats from the 70's like 127's and 128's as well as the 126
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 05, 2014, 07:53:30 AM
Ok the overheating problem has been borrowed down to that old familiar BIS problem...... The head gasket. Just need to test it with a compression tester but I'm 99% sure it is as even starting it up for 20 seconds fills the water system with pressure so clearly there's gas getting in somewhere. So it's out the engine for a complete rebuild. This isn't too bad news as I planned to do this one day anyway and it's a great chance to fit a ported head, modified inlet and a lightened flywheel as well as the many new parts I've acquired over the years such as a new camshaft and lifters, timing chain and bearings.

 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on April 05, 2014, 08:04:28 AM
 Bad news about the head gasket, but at least you get to play a bit more with the car. Are you just going to swap engines for now. I remember you have that nicely painted bis engine from Luigi 1.
 Be careful with that lighter flywheel, as some people on here had some bad experience with them on a bis. It`s something to do with the way the bis engine is balanced and the counterweight on the front pulley. Perhaps some bigger valves from a later 700 Cinq would be a good upgrade and a better carb.
 Looking forward to see some more updates on this. The car looks great so far :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 05, 2014, 07:48:28 PM
Thanks for the heads up 1973/126 I may well leave the flywheel then - it's not lightened by much though it's only had about 300 grams or so removed off the back. I still do have that red engine which has a fully rebuilt head with new valves, guides and seats plus it's been skimmed. This engine also has a new cam shaft, timing chain, lifters and bearing but I've never ever heard it running so what I'm going to do is remove and strip the original blown engine and providing the block is ok I'll rebuild it with the new parts from the red engine as the blown engine has only done 9000 miles and I'm keen to use the original engine if I can. I'm looking into a better air filter system too  :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 17, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
Started stripping the "red" engine down today in preperation for the re build of the engine currently blown in my white 126. The red engine was an engine I stripped and rebuilt some time ago for the first project which I eventually scrapped. It was rebuilt with a new cam shaft, timing chain and sprocket, lifters, valves, valve guides, valve seats, piston rings and bearings. I've never actually heard this engine run and the easy solution would be to just swap the duff engine for this unit however I'm very keen to keep much of the original engine as possible so I'm stripping the red one back down again and swapping all those new parts over including the cylinder head and rebuilding the original one. I forgot just how simple and wonderful these little engines are to work on  :D

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/9fa6338a2a87d9eefa9624a5fd901ac0_zpsf12b452c.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/540bb2bd673c6441e656153e23f81227_zps2fd01aaf.jpg)

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 08, 2014, 11:00:06 PM
Well lots of work done unfortunately a seized main bearing led to me being heavy handed and smashing the liner of one of the cylinders with the crank as I tried to press it out :cry: so I stripped as much of the red paint off the other block as it could and set to work on rebuilding it again.... DOH!

Anyway here's the finished result. New parts added were camshaft, piston rings, shells, timing gear and chain, gaskets, valves, valve seats, clutch, lifters and oil pump gear. I painted it in BMC green as found in many Morris cars from the 60's and 70's

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/d5eea4fcc56689a559c92381e7b4a305_zps029efb03.jpg)

And the gear box was also given a once over too. New gaskets, driveshaft boots and seals. It was caked in oil and took some scrubbing! It was then painted in charcoal grey

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/91fac2e8f5f1508493c72eef4646d079_zps5b7e5a14.jpg)

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 11, 2014, 07:04:22 PM
Well it was a very busy weekend and it all stated with me refitting the gearbox onto the engine

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/6042c264dea843e670abbf8042c2c39b_zpse999d6f3.jpg)

Just before refitting the engine I modified the tip of the exhaust. Anyone who's owned a BIS and fitted chrome bumpers will know that the exhaust tip sticks out at a funny angle so I cut it off and welded a small 90 degree bend on from a scrap exhaust I had

Then I refitted the engine and after a couple of hours grafting I had a running engine again :D the only issue I have is the exhaust is blowing at the head end - I suspect I haven't alined the brackets so the exhaust isn't sitting true to the head.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/ea5246d53c421dda76c0388ce4da8447_zps0a7cce53.jpg)

And here's the modified exhaust tip

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/cf7da9115e79486102b089559adcfe93_zps727149cc.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: jonny126 on May 11, 2014, 10:25:19 PM
Blimey thats a tiday engine bay! Nice work!

Your fuel filter is in a different position to mine. Are they both feed lines from the tank or is one a return? I may have put mine on the wrong line . . .
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: andyzeetec on May 11, 2014, 11:13:34 PM
Great job, looks like new.  :good:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 12, 2014, 07:12:04 AM
Thanks guys  :D a needs some fettling

Blimey thats a tiday engine bay! Nice work!

Your fuel filter is in a different position to mine. Are they both feed lines from the tank or is one a return? I may have put mine on the wrong line . . .

It may be that mine is a different make to yours. When I installed the engine I plumbed them the wrong way round and the fuel filter didn't fill up and the engine didn't run. Once swapped around it filled up and it ran.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: jonny126 on May 12, 2014, 07:02:26 PM
Ah ok, mine fills up and runs, so I guess its all ok ha ha!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 12, 2014, 09:30:19 PM
Reasonably successful road test today, there's still a few niggles - the handbrake cable needs adjusting, the accelerator cable also needs adjusting but I fixed the blowing exhaust so to celebrate I gave it a wash  :D

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/0129032ce08bdeb87b1cb8487c77d644_zps2185afdc.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/0264ef90495489ce1ea4a7f0d79a74ee_zpse108dc16.jpg)

I think the modified exhaust tip looks good too  :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/e49c82343220c2c6fff84ea3c125bbf4_zps1ab5ddfc.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 19, 2014, 04:16:24 PM
From Didcot with love  :D

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/0ccb633362ddcb9ff51fa53a0f3e9188_zps7dfa2347.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/c1b5cb1f0bf5445e2e75087bd192a2d9_zpsdca0f261.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/bab41b3930d2bf55289bdd68111eb74b_zpsfb0e8237.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Kowalski on May 19, 2014, 09:05:50 PM

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/bab41b3930d2bf55289bdd68111eb74b_zpsfb0e8237.jpg)

Loads of character beside run-of-the-mill fiats (or Fca as they call themselves now)!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 20, 2014, 07:02:20 AM
Yes indeed plenty of character. Look how small he is compared to the relitivly small 500 next to it  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 17, 2014, 05:50:06 PM
Little bit more work done, I stripped the doors down and fitted some NOS parts such as new window mechanisms, latches and chrome trim surrounds too. The passenger side quarter window frame turned out to be wasted but luckily I had a decent spare in my stash which was rust proofed and painted - the one on the left is the old one and the right one is the useable spare.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/3da8f88118531232b2045c267e8dd95c_zpsc0b398c9.jpg)

Once that was sorted I liberally applied some waxoil down the door bottoms replaced the broken plastic side strip from my stash and fitted it all back together  :D
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/d860c4c058b36338a552eb037ec5763f_zps47e212c9.jpg)

Then I moved onto the front suspension. And despite having a reverse eye leaf spring fitted I just thought is wasn't low enough so I bought some of these from axel gersil........
 (http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/aa7223ef9fad8efca4488c2f23444760_zpsb9d898df.jpg)
The one on the left is the new cut down version and is about 9mm shorter than the originals (on the right)

After the usual trouble of the old blocks welding themselves to the studs (lashings of heat dealt with that) the new ones were fitted and this is the result. Much nicer  ;D
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/659331948a293b04df4e08eb071c4438_zps4447f449.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 26, 2014, 09:08:59 PM
More news! After a long 270 mile round trip I acquired a vinyl interior! It was very grubby and the frames were past it so I dug out a spare set (as you do) which had  decent frames and stripped both sets down and swapped them over.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/6fe9f50c2f9cfdd425b9067040cc39ed_zps7665bd1e.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/709147e0d9c6da5246ca9b15d795f3a9_zpsdf1ad2fd.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/69dc8bf5bbc026b93b5a9f8bb4f2c2fa_zps051e3d0a.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/47a8a1ed9bdf63c6c75e7d1bb683a8eb_zps3fda3452.jpg)


I also ordered a new carpet as my old one was manky as hell. It's a one piece sort and was a bit fidley to fit. I had to cut holes for the accelerator pedal and seat belt anchors.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/ce4ed3d65481651b47f8e3fbaface03e_zps6859151c.jpg)

I then stripped out the old interior and fitted it all up. I'm well pleased with it and think it gives it that retro look :D
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/1da4af91675445d2b81a34209de287d6_zpsc9dbff4b.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/cc52549d7e553ff394a4dabbf56549cc_zps94fdb47a.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/636bfcadfd2aa31eaad6133c971b78aa_zps743156a6.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Mics126 on July 26, 2014, 10:17:09 PM
stunning looking car, keep up the hard work.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 26, 2014, 10:22:08 PM
Thanks mics it's coming on nicely   ;D

Here's a pic from Stanford hall

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/629547c22fd6d5aae7d60f261b3fa9a9_zps8b3cea7b.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 31, 2014, 09:53:59 PM
I've had a funny issue this week with luigi.  He was ticking over very rough indeed but was fine at normal speeds so I turned the dizzy a little clockwise and it ticked over beautifully but sputtered all the way up the rev range. I took the cap off whilst it was running and see the vacuum mechanism working fine and the points were gapped right aswell. The only thing that caught my attention was that I could hear a metallic clattering sound. So I quickly guessed I had a duff distributor. Luckily in my Aladdin's cave of 126 parts I had a spare so I whipped the old one out and refitted the spare. Once timed up it fired up straight away ticked over lovely once more the on the test drive it overall pace of the car has picked up so much! It seems to accelerate a and pull so much better. It's amazing what a properly set up ignition can do for a car :D

Has anyone else suffered their distributor failing like this before? I haven't taken it apart yet but It seems like something inside like the weights have come away or something? Is this a common zelmot issue? I have thought about buying a marelli one as buying points seems easier and perhaps there made better?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on August 08, 2014, 02:51:02 PM
Damn... that is a nice car Gadge :). Reminiscent of what i'd love mine to turn out like... if I ever get to the bottom of the engine hell! Been thinking about painting my block etc before reassembly and definately sealed the deal... but what colour!

If you ever want to sell that car... let me know. I love the color :). The vinyl interiors are also quite nice and retro!

Subscribed :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 08, 2014, 06:33:14 PM
Thanks bud it's a work in progress :) I'm a stickler for painted and detailed engine bays and the BIS is crying out to have it block painted. I've done a red one before and a black. I chose green as a nod to my other love - classic british cars - and this shade of green is usually found on Morris minors and morris 1100s.

It's not been plain sailing though. I too had a lot of engine woes in the beginning. You just have to plod on and get to the other side and you'll soon be up and running :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on August 08, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
I was thinking regular silver, black or red. Shame white would get dirty quick lol.

Fingers crossed I'll  be up and running within the next couple of weeks!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 12, 2014, 07:58:19 PM
Ok after fitting wider 145 tyres the 60 profile was causing some serious air gaps between the tyre and the arch so i decided to bite the bullet and flip a leaf in the spring. Now if you have followed this thread you'll know that I fitted a reverse eye spring which didn't exactly lower it as much as I though. So today I removed it and took it apart. This is the height before.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/4cdd0ff560a3cbc21429f14ce2e55a3d_zps6cd1b8c6.jpg)

So I stripped it down. Ive decided to flip the second one from the top and put it on the bottom so it works against the others. I used a bench press to compress mine but a long threaded stud will work fine.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/91d61e0a4c4b10e8b20adce35ffa3236_zpsa5ac92ca.jpg)

Here it was after. It now sits a good 8cms lower.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/76dfcbfe2e98d41dc0dadca6c0dcc553_zpse7d3a1f7.jpg)

I couldn't resist doing the rear as well so I chopped a coil out of each rear spring. Here's the results :)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/e5640265b8b7f6110bbb25b627bbffb9_zps2f40b8bf.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/872168e18b7bfc69fb4ffafb20dd8888_zps55038b50.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/a3402c81444cc844c503220fe5cc2067_zps306effa0.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/c8d12318fdda29ca709b24f71bdb9d7e_zpsb5625c52.jpg)

I got some negative camber which I'm not so sure about so may well do some more fiddling. What do you all think :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on August 12, 2014, 08:02:17 PM
Damn he's sitting low now eh! Rubbing much? lol. I like though :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Mics126 on August 12, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
looks awsome 8)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 12, 2014, 08:59:08 PM
Damn he's sitting low now eh! Rubbing much? lol. I like though :)

Yeah he's low alright perhaps a bit too low at the rear hence the camber but no rubbing whatsoever :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on August 12, 2014, 09:10:17 PM
Nice job Gadge, can i ask if you have put the other spring retainer clamps back on? these stop the leaves from slipping round. I too bought a reverse eye spring and suffer from severe camber and have 2 bags of sand in the front boot ;D 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 12, 2014, 09:19:16 PM
Yes I managed to reuse them. They were a heavy duty sort different from the original ones. When I fitted then spring I actually had terrible positive camber but it seems the lower you go the more negative it becomes
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on August 12, 2014, 09:32:31 PM
 It`s looking much better now. I like it a lot.

 Now you just need some nice wheels :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on August 12, 2014, 09:44:28 PM

Now you just need some nice wheels :P

Have you got some for sale ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 12, 2014, 09:46:53 PM
It`s looking much better now. I like it a lot.

 Now you just need some nice wheels :P

No way! I love the steelies! :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on August 13, 2014, 07:53:40 AM
 I love steelies too just not the Seicento ones for some reason :-
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Kent126 on August 13, 2014, 04:31:36 PM
Get them bad boy steelies banded! :-)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 13, 2014, 08:26:35 PM
Get them bad boy steelies banded! :-)

No chance! Just spent £270 on 4 new tyres  :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on August 14, 2014, 08:17:57 AM
I have to say I really like what you done with this car he looks awesome - sympathetic, tasteful modification personified :)- keep it up!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 14, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
Thank you stuey  ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 17, 2014, 09:10:35 PM
Here's a few pictures from the annual MITCAR show - this year from rockingham castle

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/bbb0690f5afb68f815daaa3a7dc8a747_zpse603a8c8.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/7432a38c1ca8c9698ae332c3ddf9581c_zpsb93326bf.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/e681d9fab1ed48d24e448c39f8952c55_zps7c456013.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on August 17, 2014, 10:11:32 PM
Mmmm very nice :). Where did the chrome bumpers come from? And I always thought that chopping springs was a bit you know? ;). It will be nice when I can start thinking about how the thing looks rather than trying to get it to a state where its worth continuing with detailing lol.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: andyzeetec on August 17, 2014, 10:25:21 PM
Looking good Gadge  :good:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 18, 2014, 06:25:31 AM
Thanks guys the chrome bumpers were an old eBay purchase from a few years ago (like most things on this car lol)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 26, 2014, 08:29:40 PM
Oh dear looks like I have head gasket issues again :( I have a feeling though its not the gasket but the head it's working loose. Legend has it your supposed to retorque the head after 500 miles. I'm on 1500 and I'm thinking (or rather hoping :D) that all I'll need to do is torque them up. Might aswell remove the engine and sort the rear crank seal too..... Love these cars lol
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 08, 2014, 08:48:31 PM
Ok thought I'ld update. The head gasket issue seems to be sorted. The cause it seems was the head nuts - they'd started to work loose. Sure enough doing a bit of research on here it seems that BIS head nuts like to work there way loose after a head gasket change so my advice to anyone who's done one is too re torque them up after 500 miles. I know it's a pain in the ass not helped by the fact you have to drain the coolant but belive me it's worth it!

Soooo with that (hopefully) sorted I've decided to treat the cooling system to some of this......
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/135_zpsd60f2724.jpg)

It's a bit of a rigmarole to do. First you have to drain the old system and pump as much as the old water out as you can then add the prep fluid. This fancy magic liquid absorbs water so you run it for a few days with it in. Then drain it out (and keep it for use again if you want) then you add the waterless coolant. I'm really hoping that when this stuffs in I'll have seen the back of any future head gasket issues.

On a completely different note I took delivery of some lovely clear/red lenses from Germany :) so now the car runs with a complete clear inicator setup  ;D

Before........
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/001_zps369e4bd4.jpg)

And after.........
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/002_zpsd4d2bcd3.jpg)

What do you think? A step too far from originality or tastefully done?
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/003_zpsa2cd97b2.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on September 08, 2014, 08:53:34 PM
Hmmm I do like the original lens's... I could do with a couple as the plastics slightly cracked on mine and won't secure with the original plastic screws (they seem awquard to locate, nowhere has stock at the minute!)... But I didn't know that the clear ones came in that variety either. I thought they were all clear with a tiny bit of red on the inside :). I quite like those ones you have there... wouldn't look bad on my blue. Decisions... decisions!

Interested to hear how the waterless coolant behaves... how many miles had you done since you did the head out of interest? Any ideas? :).

I've not heard back from the seller regarding the CC700 heads yet :(
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 08, 2014, 09:29:34 PM
I think I did about 1500 miles. Even the manual says that It should be re torqued up so was well overdue lol. I can't wait to try the waterless coolant out. I really want to sort this overheating saga out once and for all as so many (as you know poxxy  :P) has suffered from it and hopefully if it's successful may help others out in there quest to find cooling bliss in their BIS :D

The lenses I've seen about before on other ones. I like the red tint on them as I'm not a fan of total clear ones.

I'll keep my eye out for the cc700 head. I have one of those 0.5 solid copper gaskets on offer so if I do get one, I'll have a new gasket to go on it :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on September 08, 2014, 10:49:44 PM
Those lens's certainly suit the rest of the car. I only just realised your plastic seem thing along the side of the car has been removed... Wondering what to do with my bumper trim at the moment, was planning on keeping it all original till I get to drive it around a little and see if I like the feel of it on the road :).
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 09, 2014, 06:58:01 AM
Yeah I've tried to go for the retro look so I've dropped as much of the 80's plastic as I can ugh as the bumpers and mirrors. The only part left is the part along the doors which have to stay on ATM because of the little holes they leave in the doors. Eventually all those little holes in the rear valance will be welded up too :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 10, 2014, 08:43:34 PM
More damm distributor troubles!  >:( ....... Distributor 1 threw a weight spring so the timing was all rough so I installed a spare I had knocking around, which then broke its points wire standing me on the A14. When the "4th emergency service" bodged it back together I was able to fit new points only for the locating pin that the points fits on came off the base plate week later - more rough running so I dug out distributor 1 again and swapped the base plate over GREAT I said and for one more week it was sweet running....... Until this morning when the vacuum mechanism fell off which left me spluttering to a stop on a busy duel carriage way

ZELMOT DISTRIBUTORS ARE S###E! 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on September 11, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
I don't like the sounds of this, I don't want this happening to my Zelmot! :).
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 11, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
My advise ........ Buy a spare!! Lol
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 21, 2014, 02:09:12 PM
Small update I've fitted a set of black plastic centre caps to luigi. I've had these knocking around in the garage for a while now do fitted them on and I'm 50/50 about whether to keep them on or not? They look quite good on some angles and fit quite well with the "retro" look I'm after but I'm biased so what do you guys think?

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/5e0498c828e05e8331fa21b68d895479_zps263221aa.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/d403bc321cb4bc1b571b06d2eb7823ea_zpsb290d24a.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/170a82c4eadfd06ac75a11ca1df5a3ff_zpsa1f9f6f0.jpg)

Also forgot to mention I got some goodies winging there way over from Poland...... Watch this space :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Henmiester on September 21, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
Looks good on silver steelies. Ive got the same but looking to put them on white steelies.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on September 22, 2014, 07:24:05 PM
 I prefer the black hub caps to the silver ones. Also loving the clear rear indicator lenses 8).
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 22, 2014, 08:27:21 PM
There really growing on me I have to say so I'm gonna keep them on :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: shielsy on September 22, 2014, 11:26:58 PM
very nice them wheels me likey owen nw
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 02, 2014, 07:05:17 PM
Christmas came early today for me and luigi - my brand new cinqucento cc700 cylinder head arrived from Poland today (big thanks to piotross). For those not in the know when the cinqucento arrived on the scene in Poland (and a few other eastern european countries) back in the 90's it was available with a modified versions of the BIS engine and it was called the cinqucento cc700. The CC stayed the same but there were modifications to the lubrication, the ignition system, the cylinder head and the camshafts so it run in the opporsite direction as the engine was in the front. The head modifications were an increase in inlet size from 31mm to 35mm so the engine could breath better. Power went up from 26bhp to around 31bhp - no doubt a lot of that increase is down to the larger inlet valve.

So after a long search I've finally acquired a brand new one and here it is.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/4f084b48a0c7308dffa815f8012b8bf4_zps02a954f7.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/3761ccc8258ec29fa613044d0103b170_zps02f0c61d.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/c0357fb6688c89dc61d2f52069cb03f3_zps8649bd5f.jpg)




Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on October 02, 2014, 08:12:22 PM
Sexy :D. Was this the one I was contemplating getting? lol. Going to get new valves from axel?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 02, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
No need for valves Mr piotross sorted me out with some :D I thought yours was already running a cc700 head?

Also I forgot to mention I've rebuilt and modified a spare carb which will run a K&N filter and electric fuel pump so with that, the lightened flywheel and a "big valve" head I'm hoping for some good results in torque and acceleration :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on October 02, 2014, 09:14:01 PM
I hope the lightened flywheel doesn't shake the engine to death or become to unbalanced with the crank! And yes it is, but I did see one on allegro which was brand spanking which I thought about getting before hehe.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 02, 2014, 10:33:11 PM
I've been running the flywheel for around 2000 miles now and all seems well. It ticks over ok - well, as good as a 126 can get lol
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on October 02, 2014, 11:01:21 PM
That's good to hear :). I need to find an acceleration video of a bis to to see when the power dies off... ifi you get chance sometime :D.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 03, 2014, 06:07:43 AM
Haha I don't think its that noticeable :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 06, 2014, 01:52:06 PM
my "to do" list is now getting a tad shorter. over the last week I managed to pull the engine out ready to cure its trivial but annoying oil leak. it turns out that there were two - the crank seal and the gearbox input shaft seal/bush. so with the parts on order its just a case of waiting so in the mean time I tackled some other jobs. firstly with the winter looming and with it the promise of salty roads I gave the arches a good coating of stone chip guard and waxoyl.

here it is before. so just scrub all the loose dirt off and blast it all on.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/005_zps230b28b2.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/005_zps230b28b2.jpg.html)

and shortly after. this stuff is great as its resistant to water and salt and high impacts from stones. I did all four corners.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/007_zps30e7d8a2.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/007_zps30e7d8a2.jpg.html)

next was less important. my current audio setup (I.C.E if you will  ;D) comprised of a small two channel tape player and a single speaker in the passenger side. so I thought is was time for an upgrade. I had Three extra matching speakers in the garage so I bought a lovely period Pioneer 4 channel tape player off ebay (hasn't arrived yet - photos to follow) so today I fitted the spearkers in readiness for it  ;D

the front drivers side was fitted by buying a left hand drive glove box shelf and cutting it down and modifying it. and I have to say looks great.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/016_zps70f73373.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/016_zps70f73373.jpg.html)

the rears went into the parcel shelf. this is a rare feature on BIS cars but mine wasn't in great shape. years of sun abuse had led to some fading and serious flaking so I decided to recover it.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/010_zpsa76da1f1.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/010_zpsa76da1f1.jpg.html)

so cut the holes ready found some sub box cloth I had and cut to size.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/012_zps271b68dd.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/012_zps271b68dd.jpg.html)

then sprayed on some contact adhesive and stuck it all on, folding it over the edges
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/013_zps01637bc5.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/013_zps01637bc5.jpg.html)

these are the speakers to be fitted. period pioneer to match the fronts and the new head unit.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/011_zpsdb4148be.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/011_zpsdb4148be.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/014_zps4ecabd05.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/014_zps4ecabd05.jpg.html)

quite pleased with the job although I did manage to get some over spray in the top but it looks 100 times better than it was before  :)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/015_zps738d03ce.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/015_zps738d03ce.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: judson-126 on November 06, 2014, 04:48:55 PM
Just replaced my gearbox rubbers! Think the lowering cracked em more lol, looks great! Good idea about the left hooker glovebox, ive just threw some tweeters up front with 2 12" subs in the back with a pare of components, the motor shakes like mad! Gotta have i.c.e in a 126 tho havent yah :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 06, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
I like how you think  :D my first 126 had two 10" subs where the back seats used to be. I needed something to take the drone away from the long journeys  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on November 15, 2014, 08:16:15 PM
Haha... I.C.E in a 126... is the roar of the BIS engine not enough to listen to!?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 15, 2014, 09:32:25 PM
Roar? Lol mines not quite a roar more like a hum of spoons in a bag  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 28, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Xmas came for luigi early this year. My new magnetti marelli distributor arrived the other day from piotross (thanks bud  :thumbup) along with an alloy rocker cover and a pair of rear disc conversion plates.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/7bcec0c61236ce883fce1bab0348ef11_zpse3ac1084.jpg)

I'm really hoping the marelli distributor will perform a lot better than my crappy zelmot one and the rear disc conversion - although not really nescarary - will compliment the fronts very nicely :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Piotross on November 28, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
Clean the valve cover   :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 28, 2014, 09:36:45 PM
Deffinatley  ;D I'm thinking of polishing it up :thumbup:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on January 10, 2015, 04:41:07 PM
It's been nearly two months since I last heard luigi run. So I thought I'ld have a go at fitting the new distributor but didn't get very far as there's no power going to it. So I thought I'ld leave that for now and fit my new (used) pioneer tape player ...... Only I think it may be a duffer as it seems to pulse and distort even at half volume :( so not been a very productive day
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: DeVilleChris on January 10, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
Keep at it Gadge! You'll get there!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on January 11, 2015, 10:07:08 AM
Cheers buddy :D as its so often said they are a fustration some times!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: cider on January 11, 2015, 07:30:09 PM
Cheers buddy :D as its so often said they are a frustration some times!
I`m feeling your pain ;D Just can`t believe something so small could cause so much grief :)
But worth it when your back on the road again
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on January 29, 2015, 05:44:04 PM
Bit of an update, I managed to track down the distributor issue. The new points were knackered. Someone had bent the bottom of the sprung side so it was touching earth all the time so I had to stump up £20 (yes really!!!) for a new set........ Which arrived today :)

So hopefully this weekend luigi will be up and running again :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on January 31, 2015, 03:30:11 PM
Mission accomplished! :D after nearly 2 months of silence my street was filled with the sound (and fumes) of a tiny twin cylinder :thumb:

The main culprit for luigi's reluctance to run was indeed the points as the new set instantly gave me a reading on my multi meter. I also removed and fiddled with a different carb that I've been working on. It's been rebuilt with new seals, needle and gaskets plus it has been modified to except a return to the fuel tank as it now runs with an electric fuel pump. It fired up pretty much straight away and once I set the timing and fiddled with the mixture he ran like a dream :thumb:

So it's been a good day. Still got a small leak on a hose plus I need to make a blanking plate for the old fuel pump hole no big deal. :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on January 31, 2015, 04:06:09 PM
  That is good news Gadge :thumbup.
  What carburettor are you using and have you installed the CC700 head yet?

 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on January 31, 2015, 04:53:28 PM
I'm using a Webber carb slightly modified and no hav'nt used the "big valve :D" head yet. I'm planning on rebuilding a spare engine and sticking it on that
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 05, 2015, 06:20:48 PM
Well I took luigi out for a spin to the petrol station this morning - the first time I'ld driven him in 3 months - and it was all great, power seems flat so I think I need to fiddle with the timing some more. I also can't get him to idle properly.... .. Oh and it's got a slight weep from the top hose. Clearly there's still work to do :(
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 21, 2015, 06:16:56 PM
Been busy these last few weekends. The big water leak is now a small one, the fuel pump is now wired up properly, the new steering collum cover is also on and I now have 4 working speakers coursety of a lovely retro pioneer tape player. So things are looking up and to celebrate I unexpectedly panic bought a set of alloy wheels

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/4e4b226ab40a996380ab52bb3296803d_zpsd12922b3.jpg)

As some may already recognise they are speedlines and were original fitment to X1-9s and at £100 for 5 I couldn't resist so after a trip to the tyre shop to relive them of their old rubber I got them home from Wolverhampton. Their alittle rough round the edges but their curb free and just need a blast and repaint....... Just need to decide on tyre size
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 22, 2015, 05:01:01 PM
Took luigi out today. The weather was fierce but both me and luigi battled though whatever mother "N" threw at us which included snow and sleet. The only issues on the 1 and an hour drive up the M1 was non functioning indicators on the drivers side (a dodgy connection) an oil leak from the fuel pump blanking plate (a dodgy gasket) and the steering wheel sits to the left...... No a big issue but an annoying one nonetheless. But all in all the car worked as it should especially the waterless coolant which kept the engine temprature perfectly hot. I can't stress just how good this stuff is. It takes a bit longer to get to temp but once there it stays there and there's no stress on any of the pipes as it's never under pressure. The new elecey fuel pump work faultlessly too so very pleased :) so here's a pic

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/7f3c0967f258441c86f5174c8b7d6e0d_zps7780c934.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Piotross on February 22, 2015, 05:08:06 PM
nice :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 03, 2015, 08:00:24 PM
I fitted the panda mudflaps today but I'm still unsure??

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 07, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
Rolled luigi out today for a wash and to fix some odds and sods that needed doing like a new rear fog bulb, re fitting the radiator guard re fitting the steering wheel to the "straight ahead" position and swapping the wheels over. I also fitted a set of Uprated 60w halogen headlight bulbs as the previous yellow continental style 45's were about as bight as a birthday cake candle so for the remainder of the bad weather I'll stick with these :) in other news one of my gear box mountings is paggerd which is annoying as its not that old  >:(

While the wheels were off I trail fitted my new speedlines wheels to see what they may look like and it seems they fit Bob on :) so just need to refurb them and get some rubber hoops fitted

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 17, 2015, 05:55:01 PM
Luigis poorly again. On a recent trip out it started cutting out and running rough. The final straw was when I got home he spat his coolant out. This of course is very strange as it runs waterless coolant and sat at a not too unreasonable 85 odd degrees all the way home yet the exspansio tank was under pressure so I susspect that the head nuts have worked there way loose yet again just like the last engine. I've always suspected something wasn't quite right with this engine so I wheeled him back into the garage and told him to think about what he's done while I think about what I'm going to do

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After a few days a plan was hatched. I always intended to give luigi an overhaul. He needs attention to the body work namely the small hole under the front window which is getting bigger by the day plus all those trim panel holes to weld up and then there's the paint. I also have a few modifications and upgrades as well as general maintainance i'ld like to carry out to all the running gear so instead of doing it at the end of the year I'm going to do it now over this summer ...... And I cant wIt yo get stuck in :D I've decided to go "all out" on this car as I'm determined to get it right. I'm going to try my hardest to not cut corners and do the job right. The list of upgrades will be very generous (and expensive) but will be worth it when it's done. I won't reveal too much yet as I mY not be able to carry out some of the work as I haven't researched some areas. So today I cleared my work bench and dug out "spare engine number 3" and started the strip down

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Mics126 on March 17, 2015, 09:01:29 PM
shame about the engine playing up but your plans sound exciting.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on March 17, 2015, 09:28:18 PM
 Oh that is bad news on the engine front.
 Are you going to tell us at least a bit on the planned mods? How about a different engine?:)
 I`m guessing you are not taking the Bis to the Brooklands show after all?

 BTW where did you buy them wheels from? They look suspiciously similar to the ones I have sold not so long ago.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 17, 2015, 09:53:46 PM
I got them off a chap in Wolverhampton. I don't think he realised what he had as I bought all 5 for £110 and other than a bit of corrosion their not in bad shape.

Yeah unfourtunaltyly I won't be in the 126 again which I am actually annoyed about so I'm in the bravo instead.

The mods/up grades I can deffinatly say will happen are rebuilding another engine but this time fitting a cinquecento 700 head and a new air filter, sorting out the body work and getting it resprayed, fitting a rear disc conversion (if I can figure out how to adapt the handbrake mechinism).

I'm also looking into some suspension tweeks via some spax shocks and a possible anti roll bar upgrade if possible and ild like to fit some rear inertia seat belts to match the front.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 19, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
Started stripping the spare engine this evening. I started at the head end by removing the rocker cover and was greeted with a tar like gunk substance covering the rockets and valve gear. When I removed the head the old gasket pretty much disentergrated into 3 individual pieces and the waterways were filled with rust. I've actually heard this engine run intact I drove the car it was in 15 or so miles to my home and it performed ok Which I am now amazed by by given what was sitting on the bench in front of me. Interestingly a brand new BIS block can be had for around £100 delivered so I may well look into that.

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On the other side removing the crank case revealed more sludge and something else I hadn't noticed on my other engines, side to side movement of the con rod big ends, and I'm not talking a small amount either i'ld say around 1 mm. Is this normal?

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 06, 2015, 06:06:39 PM
It's been a bit quiet but that's for good reason. I've been busy buying parts from various parts of Europe. These parts inclued a brand new block, brand new "big valve" head, new timing chain and sprocket, new gaskets, new crank case cover with water pump, new piston rings and shells. And there's still more to come! :D

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These are the old shells....  Well past it. Mercifully the cam shaft and crank is ok and can be used in the new block.

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And the timing chain was like a banana :D

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Water pump impeller was foo-bared as well

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The new head and the old. The new head has bigger inlet valves over the old one

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I also got a new tank and sender and braided brake lines :D

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on April 06, 2015, 11:13:23 PM
Very nice Gadge... think that water pump impeller was the source of your overheating issues? :D.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 07, 2015, 07:20:57 AM
No that engine is still in the car awaiting it's fate. This engine is a spare from a car I bought 10 years ago. The car was driven into the garage and the engine was removed and sat under a workbench until a few weeks ago. It wasn't worth the hassle of fixing it up when new parts are (relitivley) cheap. The new block for instance was a not too unreasonable £82 so it just made sense to buy new parts seen as though reliability seems to be an issue with thses BIS engines :(

I'm also thinking of returning the cooling system bam to the original way by removing the relocated thermostat and fitting the standard 3 way junction. Now that I'm using waterless coolant the need to modify the cooling system is not nessarcary
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 25, 2015, 09:02:51 PM
Spent the day in the garage doing a spot of gas flowing to the cinquecento head today before I bolt it all back together. It's something I've done before on other cars I've owned in  the past including a previous BIS. It takes Patience and a lot of time but it looks great when it's done. Now I must say right now I'm under no illusions here of horse power gains but it doesn't take a genius to work out that a rough bore that air passes through isn't great for efficiency so I broke out the multi tool drill and air grinder and set to work. Here's the inlet bores before I set to work.
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The bore measured up at around 25mm but by the time I finished it was around 26.5mm
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I started by roughing out the bore with a carbide cutter then running a 10mm sanding drum in it paying attention to the casing joins and the area around the valve seats as it was particularly bad for flow there. It takes a while but you get there in the end and then when your somewhere near you rub it with some Emory cloth so you get a satin sort of finish so to avoid "pooling" of the fuel. The end result was an inlet port that was bigger and smoother. The port exit where the valve seat is pressed in has been blended in to the head so there's now no step as the air passes into the combustion chamber.

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And speaking of combustion chambers I gave the face a dam good polish up using a combination of finger power and mini electric sander followed by a rousing with a polishing mop to get as close to a mirror as I can as it's the best for reflecting heat back into the cylinder.
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The exhaust port proved a bit tricky as space was tight to have any real effect on flow so just smoothed out as much from the exit end as possible but the real gains are at the inlet side of the flow so not too fussed about the exhaust. Next up is to match the inlet up to the bigger inlet ports :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 03, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
More work done today. Gave the alloy rocker cover a polish up. Here it is before I got stuck in.
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And a after an hour using a wire wheel, sanding drums and finally a giant polishing mop it came up like this
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I also started prepping the new block, head and various covers for paint.
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On another note I recived these the other day - forged con rods
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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 04, 2015, 06:01:28 PM
In the paint shop (outside my garage :D).

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I've gone for a satin black colour with this engine to give it a more traditional look to it plus with the polished rocker cover and silver nuts and bolts throughout it'll look good :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on May 04, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Wow gadge that's awesome. Wish I had your skills, especially with the head porting stuff.
By the way you remember at Auto Italia I was telling you about the overheating I was having on my bis? Fixed it now, turned out there was a rag stuffed in the coolant pipe that goes to the thermostat!!!
I put it there to soak up the drips while I had my engine out, and forgot to remove it when I put the engine back in in a hurry. Car runs cool now no problems. What a wally eh? Lol
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 04, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Lol now that's a gaff!!  ;D at least it was an easy fix and no damage is done  :) your car went down a treat at the show there's pictures of it all over the fiatforum  ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 09, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
With the paint cured and masking tape removed it's time to get building.
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New main bearings and a timing chain set getting fitted.
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Timing chain case fitted but Still waiting on new Pistons so will move onto the head tomorrow. I have a deadline to meet which is the 28th of June - auto italia at Stanford hall :)
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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Piotross on May 09, 2015, 05:22:01 PM
Pistons are coming :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on May 09, 2015, 05:38:52 PM
looking good  :good:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Mics126 on May 09, 2015, 06:04:12 PM
all your plans so far sound awsome. very high quaulity work keep it up and hopefully you will get it running in time.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on May 09, 2015, 06:16:47 PM
Fantastic work!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 09, 2015, 06:38:12 PM
Thanks guys I'm really hoping this engine (the 3rd one!!!) will finally give me no hassle so I can really enjoy driving it around as all I seem to do is swap engines  :(

I have some more plans in the pipe line for the gearbox and suspension so watch this space :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 10, 2015, 05:05:43 PM
Rebuilding the head. I started by skimming it even though it is new I thought i'ld run it over some 800 grit on a small engineers table lubed up with parafin then finished it off with some 1200 grit and it came up incredibly well - just as good as a machine shop i'ld say :)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/22CB92AD-2EA2-43AD-AD37-355E173BDE48_zpsls665cfh.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/22CB92AD-2EA2-43AD-AD37-355E173BDE48_zpsls665cfh.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/03F265D8-2470-47C6-9ACD-06876D941EB6_zpsvm1jzy9k.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/03F265D8-2470-47C6-9ACD-06876D941EB6_zpsvm1jzy9k.jpg.html)

Then once i'ld lapped the new valves in I scraped 25 years of burnt on oil off from the rocker assembly and bolted it all together
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(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/6F26E485-DE26-4EF7-B496-CB82F8AE93C1_zps6twk57du.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/6F26E485-DE26-4EF7-B496-CB82F8AE93C1_zps6twk57du.jpg.html)

New water pump fitted as well with new seal and gasket as the old one has lost a vane.
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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 16, 2015, 05:02:01 PM
New Pistons arrived YAY :D so no sooner were they out of the wrapper I fitted them to the forged rods..... And they looked amazing it's a shame you never get to see them.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/5C3EAB4D-B3CE-4B51-ACBA-EC767ADE3D91_zpsyqewaqux.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/5C3EAB4D-B3CE-4B51-ACBA-EC767ADE3D91_zpsyqewaqux.jpg.html)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/E9878A91-A29E-41C6-BE2F-7F85D16FA3BF_zps56bieeuj.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/E9878A91-A29E-41C6-BE2F-7F85D16FA3BF_zps56bieeuj.jpg.html)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/C1EAECF0-BFEC-4536-A427-801208F970A9_zpsws1p9pbl.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/C1EAECF0-BFEC-4536-A427-801208F970A9_zpsws1p9pbl.jpg.html)

New head gasket in situ waiting for the new head......
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A little while later and it was all torqued up and starting to look more like an engine and less like a pile of parts
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Oh and just a note on the rods they are very well made and are actually wider than the standard ones (and still 60 grams lighter each) and fit onto the crank much better too nearly eliminating the side to side movement I was experiencing with the old ones so hopefully will be a tad quieter

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on May 16, 2015, 11:05:55 PM
that looks awesome- where did you get that alloy rocker cover- I want one!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: shielsy on May 17, 2015, 12:49:56 AM
that kind of work scares me , i much prefer welding , each til there own respect  8) :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 17, 2015, 08:49:33 AM
that kind of work scares me , i much prefer welding , each til there own respect  8) :P

This kind of work is easy for me...... It's the welding that scares me  :o

Stu, it's a cover off a cinqucento 700. It came to me as a rough cast which I painstakingly rubbed down and buffed up on a polishing wheel. Looks great I think  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on May 22, 2015, 08:57:18 AM
That looks terrific! Hope it runs well. I notice you opted not to go for a copper head gasket. Why's that?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 22, 2015, 12:41:46 PM
Thanks :D No I opted out this time. I used one in the last one and wasn't impressed with the quality. It's actually copper skinned meaning that it's a normal gasket with two thin copper ones sandwiching it together. Another reason is that this new engine will run on waterless coolant so the need for a stronger gasket is not necessary
 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 22, 2015, 12:58:36 PM
Started dismantling the old "green" engine ready for removal when Mr postman came with a pleasant distraction for me. Yum :)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/2C8AF1EC-E229-4D5E-AFC0-0EC222925707_zpsgldpndub.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/2C8AF1EC-E229-4D5E-AFC0-0EC222925707_zpsgldpndub.jpg.html)


Not quite a straight fit but close. New brackets need to be fabricated and it needed modifications doing to the muffler part as it wouldn't fit under the head but an hour of fiddling and it's nealy there :) not sure what it'll sound like but I primarily bought it because of how it looks :D
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/4D74FCCA-7A74-4B1A-9CC5-4FFBCE2F2FF4_zpstq2udbie.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/4D74FCCA-7A74-4B1A-9CC5-4FFBCE2F2FF4_zpstq2udbie.jpg.html)

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: charliebrown on May 22, 2015, 01:30:51 PM
WOW  :D

Engine is looking fantastic.  Bet you can't wait to get it running!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 22, 2015, 01:34:14 PM
Thanks Charlie I can't wait I'm just hoping everything goes well this time around :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on May 22, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
That exhaust is just the coolest thing I've ever seen on a BIS.

             8)          8)             8)
Let us know what it sounds like - bet its loud!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 22, 2015, 07:31:50 PM
If it's burbles i'ld be happy :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on May 22, 2015, 08:09:18 PM
engines looking good mate, when you coming to do mine??  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 22, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
It's a long wait  ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: andyzeetec on May 22, 2015, 09:33:11 PM
Wow engine looks great Gadge, would love to hear that exhaust when you fire it up. Any chance of a clip on youtube?

Your right about the pistons, a transparent head would be amazing.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 22, 2015, 09:56:24 PM
I'll try my hardest with a video clip - not so great with computers though  ::)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on May 22, 2015, 11:12:28 PM
holy sh*t that looks awesome! I need to see this in the flesh!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 23, 2015, 08:09:56 AM
Well I'm hoping to be at the Stanford hall autoitalia show at the end of June stu so pop along  ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Rusty's Uncle on May 23, 2015, 10:47:49 AM
Are you going to run with the standard carb  :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 23, 2015, 07:34:55 PM
I'm gonna use the carb that I used on the green engine which is a modified BIS weber carb. It's had modifications to the butterfly valves and shaft and also the top casting to allow more air in :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 26, 2015, 08:02:34 PM
Out with the old.........
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/C518B6A3-0810-4F6E-AD02-860D8E1B2E1B_zpsr0gk01ut.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/C518B6A3-0810-4F6E-AD02-860D8E1B2E1B_zpsr0gk01ut.jpg.html)

And in with the new.........
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(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/38C307E9-75FE-432E-948B-8AE8C66C596C_zpsqvnyodmh.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/38C307E9-75FE-432E-948B-8AE8C66C596C_zpsqvnyodmh.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/230E28B1-8E6B-4CDB-8445-82623B9FBF4E_zpsi1s9v78k.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/230E28B1-8E6B-4CDB-8445-82623B9FBF4E_zpsi1s9v78k.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/862364D7-813B-4DA4-BF32-7F89C8756AF7_zpsiegrs0ol.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/862364D7-813B-4DA4-BF32-7F89C8756AF7_zpsiegrs0ol.jpg.html)


Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on May 26, 2015, 08:07:26 PM
looking good, and the exhaust finishes it off nicely :) 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 26, 2015, 08:22:27 PM
Thanks mintex I'm really pleased with that exhaust  ;D it was a bit of a risk but it looks fab. It'll be interesting to hear what it sounds like when it's running. It needs to come off again for some more fettling to the brackets and I'm gonna put some heat wrap around the pipes to keep the heat in.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 29, 2015, 08:23:43 AM
Wasn't quite happy with how the exhaust was rubbing against the head so I whipped it off again for some more fettling. The modifications were brutal but very much needed.
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I then wrapped it all in heat wrap. Note if you ever use heat wrap, wear gloves as I'm still itching from the fibres (if you've ever fitted loft insulation you'll know what I mean :D)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/2FFC97E9-4FA3-40FD-8F32-31DF44278A51_zpsi6a9thn6.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/2FFC97E9-4FA3-40FD-8F32-31DF44278A51_zpsi6a9thn6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on May 29, 2015, 08:35:07 AM
I used to heat wrap 4 branch manifolds on cars, but have switched to Zircotec coating them. Less hassle to have it done, more effective a heat barrier, a prettier finish, but (a lot) more expensive  :(

We need a video of that exhaust running :D
How loud is it? What make is it?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 29, 2015, 12:11:51 PM
Zirotec, it that the ceramic coated one? If it is then yes I would love that but as you say it's pricey! Lol - about £350 I believe??

Not sure what the make is. I got it off a company in Italy. I haven't had the car running as of yet so haven't heard it yet but I'm very close. Just need to wire up a new fuel pump and fill it with coolant :). I'll try and upload a video but I'm useless with technology so I will try my best :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on May 29, 2015, 01:41:43 PM
 Awesome work as usual and I love the new exhaust 8). I was always wondering how well a Giardiniera one would fit. Apparently you can bolt a Giardiniera engine to a bis bellhousing. Just  in case you ever want to convert to a/c ;D

 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 29, 2015, 06:07:16 PM
Well given the amount of water cooled ones I've been through in the last year, that may be an option :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on May 30, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
Bloody hell gadge, Not been in here for a while. Forged rods!? Where'd they come from? :)... I think I may need them. Looks so damn clean with all these new parts. :). Was the exhaust from italy?

I tried to get an alloy cc700 rocker cover so many times from allegro but never became fruitful as the sellers didn't seem to want to help me out. Shame as others were more than helpful!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 31, 2015, 08:35:18 AM
Haha yes I didn't hang around  ;D I thought i'ld take the opportunity to experiment with some tuning parts and put some myths to bed. I really want to build a usable (and more importantly) a reliable engine that can produce more power without breaking. It's like a quest lol :)

The forged rods are an eBay item. There's different sizes so I had to make sure I bought the right ones. They look amazing and fitted very well. I found the old ones had a lot of side to side play but these fitted like a glove and they are 60 grams lighter each so I've saved 120 grams in weight which should compliment the lighter flywheel that's fitted.

The exhaust is from Italy - wasn't cheap at £160 but it looks great if you want a alloy rocker cover then see piotross - that's who I got mine off :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 31, 2015, 04:50:42 PM
After a bit of a shaky start I finally got luigi fired up. It all started yesterday after I wired up a new cylindrical style electric fuel pump to replace the noisy solid state one as I was told they were quiter only this new one is even worse! So may swap back, not that you would hear it mind because that new exhaust is LOUD :D it's not at all what I expected. It burbles on tick over and when you blip the throttle it barks. My joy was short lived however when yet again a dicky points wire stopped play so a new set was fitted this morning and luigi was back in action :) I let him warm up and dispite the lack of a thermostat it warmed up to running temprature in around 10 minutes when the fan kicked in. My wife made me a celebratory coffee while I rolled him out the garage and gave him a wash.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/FBA9C48C-3658-4F42-B441-31844F8D52B8_zpstdblqzqd.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/FBA9C48C-3658-4F42-B441-31844F8D52B8_zpstdblqzqd.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/D70883CB-570D-4387-AE0E-DE12E8D04798_zpscsm8rhws.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/D70883CB-570D-4387-AE0E-DE12E8D04798_zpscsm8rhws.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/8061C8EF-8C89-4A4A-A1C3-B98F3B96B5A0_zpsh3pchx9i.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/8061C8EF-8C89-4A4A-A1C3-B98F3B96B5A0_zpsh3pchx9i.jpg.html)

I haven't took him for a spin yet as it's not quite road legal yet but hoping tomorrow. I'll also try and get a video up as well
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on May 31, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
Beautiful, and yes a video is required :). I want to hear that thing!

You forgot to paint your carb lid... I think thats the only piece that isn't pristine! :).
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 31, 2015, 05:20:37 PM
Thanks poxxxy :D funny you mention the carb top I'm not actually keeping it. I'm making my own bespoke one as I'm gonna be fitting a K&N filter. I just fitted that on so I don't drop anything down there lol
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on May 31, 2015, 05:32:09 PM
That reminds me on the spare engine I have, there's an inlet manifold nut in the head somewhere I must get to lol. Were the push rods from piotross to or were they custom? If I do put a decompression plate in for the turbo I may need some slightly longer rods.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 31, 2015, 05:43:26 PM
No the push rods were one of only a few items carried over from the spare engine. You may not need a decompression plate, you can lower the compression by buying sorter rods. I mentioned above about rod sizes well the same company offered different rod sizes for the aircooled 500 (which fit) so you may be in luck :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Piotross on May 31, 2015, 05:47:58 PM
Good work Gadge. Looks great :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 31, 2015, 06:26:18 PM
Thank you piotross your Pistons, water pump, cylinder head, valves, head nuts, bearings and piston rings are working fantastically  ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 01, 2015, 06:08:21 PM
1st test drive was nearly a success. I say nearly because it broke down half way in. It conked out and stubbornly refused to start. I traced it down to an ignition gremlin and Luckily I'll left a 13mm spanner in the car so advanced the dizzy some more and it fired up just enough for me to get home. Once I got a timing light out I found it was quite away out. Now its running sweet  ;)

For those who are interested in the exhaust sound well when driving it kind of hums..... Loudly :D particularly around the 3000 rpm range. There also seems to be a lot more torque as well. This maybe down to the exhaust or the bigger valves but it definatley feels more eager and that was with an out of sync dizzy so all in all a successful build......just hope it stays that way :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/660E4F6C-0CDB-499E-A872-05532453FFE9_zpsrhxkarrk.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/660E4F6C-0CDB-499E-A872-05532453FFE9_zpsrhxkarrk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on June 01, 2015, 06:49:38 PM
nice one  :good: Making me want to do work to my engine now  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: dadandlad on June 01, 2015, 06:54:06 PM
 8) Really nice a credit to you
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 01, 2015, 06:56:47 PM
Thanks guys starting to think I'm actually getting somewhere now  :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 06, 2015, 01:33:57 PM
MOT passed  :D whoo hoo! Although technically it was a fail as one of my front braided hoses was just chaffing the bodywork on full lock but he said he knew I would sort it so he passed it...... An advantage of using a classic friendly garage  :D

Roll on 12 more legal months of motoring! (Fingers crossed)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on June 06, 2015, 03:27:20 PM
Great news, bet you cant wait to use it now   :wave
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 06, 2015, 06:24:04 PM
Your not wrong bud  :D now that the Suns shining it's even better I just hope nothing happens to this engine  :-X
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on June 06, 2015, 06:42:44 PM
shhh, dont say things like that  :-X
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on June 06, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
Well done gadge!  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 11, 2015, 07:50:03 PM
They took along time to arrive but........PWHOORRR :D

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/A96C681E-054D-491F-97F8-A2674821EE62_zpshlo3dmbd.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/A96C681E-054D-491F-97F8-A2674821EE62_zpshlo3dmbd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on June 11, 2015, 11:19:37 PM
 Oooh these are very nice 8). You`ll have to let us know how the ride is once they are fitted.
 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 12, 2015, 05:29:09 AM
I'm hoping it'll be less bouncy :D . These are adjustable so should be able to achieve what I want hopefully.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on June 12, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
They're for the front yeah?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 12, 2015, 12:01:48 PM
Yeah just for the fronts. I run a leaf spring that's had one leaf flipped upside down to lower it but as a consequence it's made the front end very floppy and the current standard shocks just bottom out on anything deeper than a man hole. Numerous attempts to sort it by fitting first a set of rear aircooled shocks then a set of supposedly harder front shocks came to nothing as they lowered the car so much that it handled ridiculously as well as looking silly so I'm hoping that these will sort the problem out one and for all. The rear is fine although my long term plan is to fit aircooled rear arms and then buy a set of AVOs for the rear too so everything's the same :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on June 12, 2015, 07:16:10 PM
as above i'd be interested to see how they handle- did you get them from priorettis?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 12, 2015, 08:09:07 PM
Yes that's the one stuey but he had trouble getting them as he hadn't stocked them for a while in the end he had to order them direct from the AVO factory hence the wait.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 14, 2015, 04:17:06 PM
I've been thinking about air filters a lot recently. With a gas flowed head with bigger inlet valves and free flowing exhaust I figured using the standard air box and paper filter wasn't quite right. BIS engine bays are tight so I did some measurements as well as a bit of eBay surfing and bought this.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BD9DF363-A07B-4CC4-8C72-1EF9444DEB92_zpsqth1ijjf.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BD9DF363-A07B-4CC4-8C72-1EF9444DEB92_zpsqth1ijjf.jpg.html)

Obviously it wasn't going to fit the standard carb top so a new one needed to be made  so I dug out some scraps of 1mm thick steel and set to work.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/354C12EF-C7A1-42D0-8EBD-E6C18039DBE0_zpsl36gv0o1.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/354C12EF-C7A1-42D0-8EBD-E6C18039DBE0_zpsl36gv0o1.jpg.html)

I decided to mount the new filter right next to the air  vent with a flexy pipe connecting it to the new carb top.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/1970CB53-7D19-47AD-BD10-87BC62DC0744_zps8zkiuwrc.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/1970CB53-7D19-47AD-BD10-87BC62DC0744_zps8zkiuwrc.jpg.html)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/A9718B03-0B1D-4786-9317-839BDCD06884_zpseqk1iykt.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/A9718B03-0B1D-4786-9317-839BDCD06884_zpseqk1iykt.jpg.html)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/5906A66A-2166-451D-A19D-2E8CD2FA7B99_zpsc6usrxob.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/5906A66A-2166-451D-A19D-2E8CD2FA7B99_zpsc6usrxob.jpg.html)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BBD5BD08-78FB-46D1-A1F1-FF5D65D0130A_zpsloadxx9b.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BBD5BD08-78FB-46D1-A1F1-FF5D65D0130A_zpsloadxx9b.jpg.html)

All done :) I relocated the HT lead and vaccum pipe holders and made a ring pull for the throttle. The FIAT badge is off a panda air box. The new filter is attached to the inside of the body using a bolt welded to a jubblee clip.
 (http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/6928EF4A-3DC3-4137-93C2-4D7FBF896C6B_zpstjjgyct5.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/6928EF4A-3DC3-4137-93C2-4D7FBF896C6B_zpstjjgyct5.jpg.html)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/DE339CBD-6A33-4DA7-BDFB-D06BEA0B6D77_zpsxhrczz5d.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/DE339CBD-6A33-4DA7-BDFB-D06BEA0B6D77_zpsxhrczz5d.jpg.html)  
Sounds great also :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on June 14, 2015, 06:46:48 PM
nice job  :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 16, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Thanks :D well I got round to fitting my new AVO's and reverse eye spring (a different one than already fitted which hasn't got a leaf flipped) today. They didn't take long to fit - perhaps I've done it so many times I'm getting quick at it :D I had to fit cut down spring blocks as the new spring was a tad taller that the flipped one so it compensated it well. Once all fitted I set them on there softest setting and put the wheels back on.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/32DAA94D-2B0F-4EFE-AC7F-B4AC4C584884_zpsbnbgf52m.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/32DAA94D-2B0F-4EFE-AC7F-B4AC4C584884_zpsbnbgf52m.jpg.html)

And the road test was amazing!! The ride is now supreme compared to before. No more floppy ride that causes the car to bob comically from one side of the road to another and gone are the bangs and bumps of the shocks bottoming out and me getting sores everytime I drive it. One of the best mods I've done on the car and highly recommended. I just need to stiffen it up one more setting ild say and it'll be just right :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on June 16, 2015, 09:19:17 PM
You've been busy :). Looks awesome! I wanna see how it performs :D. How much were the shocks?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 16, 2015, 09:34:05 PM
Lol yes it's been a busy few weeks thAts for sure. The shocks were around £170 delivered but took awhile as they had to come straight from AVO as they didn't have them in stock.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on June 30, 2015, 06:03:06 AM
Summertime classics fun at Stamford hall :D note poxxy's blue BIS next to it. The journey to the show was faultless and didn't throw up any problems and he was very popular with the crowd too :D don't think I'll have a problem selling it that's for sure (not that I'm thinking of it  ;)) here's some photos

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/43B0B56B-2EA3-46AA-A0B7-05D9AB7CE030_zpsvavnnqm8.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/43B0B56B-2EA3-46AA-A0B7-05D9AB7CE030_zpsvavnnqm8.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/5CFC1C69-7DB1-486A-A75E-491FDBBD0FB1_zpshki7hhfc.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/5CFC1C69-7DB1-486A-A75E-491FDBBD0FB1_zpshki7hhfc.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/9A17EB8A-635A-4309-ABE8-90995BF60DAA_zpsjabappmm.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/9A17EB8A-635A-4309-ABE8-90995BF60DAA_zpsjabappmm.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: poxxxy on July 02, 2015, 11:29:50 PM
Luigi certainly looked good :). Worth the effort in the end! :).

The drive back the winds were up and I think it could benefit from some better shocks and lowering a little, wider track wouldn't be bad either! Maybe a nice splitter on the front to minimise the blasts moving me across the lanes lol. I can only imagine how wild the ride would be with a heavy lump in the back. Mid engined for high power conversions is a must for driveability i'd say!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 03, 2015, 05:21:40 AM
Yeah it gets a little choppy at times :D

You can widen the track quite a lot. the front track is a lot narrower that the rear - by around 15mm - so I fitted 5mm ones to the rear and 20mm ones to the front just to make all four equal as well as bringing the front down by around 35mm. I'll do the rear at some point too :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 05, 2015, 05:01:28 PM
Finally got around to fitting a better glove box shelf that I acquired a few months ago to replace the faded scratched one that was in it. Here's the old one
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/DA733A82-0E0E-4E64-A05D-6EF843AFAC1B_zpsmk17ndut.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/DA733A82-0E0E-4E64-A05D-6EF843AFAC1B_zpsmk17ndut.jpg.html)

And here's the new :) it's a lot more pleasing on the eye as it now matches the rest of the interior.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/6CF6685D-8B4C-417C-95EC-0B8902D113F6_zpswhj5ycyf.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/6CF6685D-8B4C-417C-95EC-0B8902D113F6_zpswhj5ycyf.jpg.html)

And while I was there I fitted yet another stereo. I never got on with the other one I fitted so I found this one lurking on eBay so for less than £20 it was mine :) it's a lot more retro than the other one and it's a pull out too - how cool is that! - very 1990  ;D
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/D8109B3E-FEA8-4F90-AD8F-7B4AB24E999F_zpsy6y03ljy.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/D8109B3E-FEA8-4F90-AD8F-7B4AB24E999F_zpsy6y03ljy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 08, 2015, 06:37:08 PM
It's taken awhile but I've finally subscribed  :D

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 22, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
On a recent run to Monmouth - some 200 odd miles from my house - I noticed some clutch issues. It slips when it's under load and the release bearing is squealing signalling that it's ready to retire. This is odd as the clutch was a brand new genuine fiat one that's only done about 4000 miles in total. It made me think that perhaps all of those mods I've done has added power and torque and may be putting too much strain on it making it slip. And it's not surprising as the clutch plate is only 16cms in diameter and with only 26 HP on tap, a 4 HP increase is like an extra 10/15% of power running though it so maybe this is why it's slipping under load. So I decided to invest in a panther stage 1 clutch.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/921A3D33-7C6C-4C5B-BD83-9081E0478A8A_zps1mb2zsj3.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/921A3D33-7C6C-4C5B-BD83-9081E0478A8A_zps1mb2zsj3.jpg.html)

Much has been said about Panther clutches being no more than remanufactured items and I've done some research on various forums with both good and bad reviews. Lots of people say they don't last but they are running over 200 BHP..... I'm on around 30 so I doubt I'm going to tear it up on that. The thing that sold it to me was the fact that they have a "25% increase in clamp pressure" which if it is remanufactured, is plausible as they just fit a stronger spring when they refurbish them. So I bit the bullit and bought one as a kind of experiment and product test to see if they really are worth the £100 I paid.

On first inspection it seems that the forums were right, both the pressure plate and spring plate have VALEO stamped on them. They have been rebuilt though with new linings that look a lot more "grippy" and hard wearing. The spring plate has a new friction ring on it but it been very roughly ground. I'm due to take the engine out soon to retorque the head so I'll fit it on and see how we go :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on July 23, 2015, 01:12:09 PM
That looks good... where did you buy it from?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 23, 2015, 02:36:40 PM
I got it off eBay :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 12, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
With the success of the AVOs I fitted on the front this summer I've gone and bought some for the rear :D

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/D4E573C1-A714-445F-84CC-C6EC2CBE1CB1_zpsofep3jqq.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/D4E573C1-A714-445F-84CC-C6EC2CBE1CB1_zpsofep3jqq.jpg.html)

Now the eagle eyed will have noticed that these shocks are for an air cooled and not the BIS so there for will not fit my current rear swing arms. Sports shocks for BIS models are rare and very expensive - £160 for just one! from spax compared to just £60 for this AVO one so it would be a lot cheaper to just convert the rear to an air cooled set up so with that in mind I bought a set of brand new air cooled swing arms complete with bushes off a polish chap for just £45 for the pair :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/71FED3C4-3702-4E39-97BF-B64B125E1843_zpsq8zn8lev.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/71FED3C4-3702-4E39-97BF-B64B125E1843_zpsq8zn8lev.jpg.html)

They will get repainted before they get fitted to stop them from rusting


Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Piotross on August 14, 2015, 09:46:14 PM
I thought you will buy Bilstein sports shocks :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 14, 2015, 10:05:53 PM
Never seen them for the BIS. The only ones I've seen are spax and there way too expensive :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 17, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/75B74BF9-5FC3-4734-BF15-AF58357DCFB6_zps9mafyb4j.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/75B74BF9-5FC3-4734-BF15-AF58357DCFB6_zps9mafyb4j.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: DeVilleChris on August 18, 2015, 04:22:30 PM
Looking tidy.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 28, 2015, 05:48:37 PM
More goodies thanks to piotross :D a tri pod kit to replace the old rubber coupling type. These look very well made and come with everything you need. Can't wait to get them fitted ;D

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on August 28, 2015, 06:33:09 PM
If it's not rude to ask gadge what's the price on these as id really like to get a set before I fit my engine and box back in...
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 28, 2015, 08:31:56 PM
£145 .... Just ask piotross in the for sale section, that's if he has any left as they look like their going like hot cakes :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 07, 2015, 12:05:32 PM
Some unexpected fun in a field with other small and peculiar cars has delayed the impending minor body restoration and rear suspension rebuild but hey it was worth it  :D

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(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/D1F8B82D-D791-436F-9DCE-9A427A67127E_zpsbpvyp0jd.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/D1F8B82D-D791-436F-9DCE-9A427A67127E_zpsbpvyp0jd.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/0D2B7051-0B93-4E6D-9855-4E76C65747AB_zpszjcxmv2s.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/0D2B7051-0B93-4E6D-9855-4E76C65747AB_zpszjcxmv2s.jpg.html)


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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on September 07, 2015, 02:33:50 PM
Looks like you had fun!

How did you get on with that 'Panther' clutch by the way?

Was it an improvement over the standard one? Did it have more bite?
Were there any drawbacks? e.g heavier clutch pedal?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 07, 2015, 06:04:04 PM
I havnt fitted it just yet it's on the "to do" list which is getting longer by the week  ;D

It certainly was a fun day out the other cars on show were just amazing! Bonds, isettas, meschersmitts and all sorts of weird looking three and four wheeled machinery - great fun!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Crusader on September 17, 2015, 10:06:07 PM
Gadge, I've read your whole thread from start to finish and I have to say your BIS is remarkable. Looks so good. You have certainly nailed the Retro theme you were looking for. The bumpers and Interior details make it for me. Really impressed with your work here. Top stuff.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 18, 2015, 08:58:30 AM
Thank you crusader that really does mean lot from a fellow member :thumbup: there's more to come on the retro theme. Over the winter I plan on giving the body work a proper going over with the intent of getting rid of all the unwanted 80's stuff like the plastic door strips, the bumper holes on each corner, the hole on the rear tailgate for the wiper and a new front scuttle as the one on the car has terminal rot on the lower corner of the windscreen (a common 126 problem). This last item will be interesting as the one I'm replacing it with is from a MK1 126 and so it doesnt have the air vent and dummy plastic cover of the BIS version. Then of course there will be a respray to finish it off  ;D

Got some more mechanical things to do first which starts today as it happens with the removal of the engine to retorque the cylinder head and fit the new stage 1 clutch.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 18, 2015, 05:54:49 PM
Ok as stated above I spent the day in the garage today removing yet again another engine but this time it's not because I've ruined another engine but in fact just retorquing the cylinder head as per instructed by the manual. I thought it best to do this at the recommended 500 miles (545 by my odometer) and I believe it's really important to do as I think engine number one was ruined because this simple task wasn't done. So I started at around 10 this morning removing bits then after a speedy 50 minutes the lump was once more out

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/EAF92B0A-83C0-40D9-8124-D351B29948BC_zpserj1z4uk.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/EAF92B0A-83C0-40D9-8124-D351B29948BC_zpserj1z4uk.jpg.html)

Whilst I stripped the head side of its exhaust, carb and rockers removed I also took the opportunity to give it an oil change and clean out the oil filter. I was surprised to find the filter gunked up with crud after less than 600 miles  :o

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/B92455B9-E022-4D3E-9063-75BBDB75D29D_zpsonfm4uon.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/B92455B9-E022-4D3E-9063-75BBDB75D29D_zpsonfm4uon.jpg.html)

Some of you may know that I bought a stage one panther clutch as the old clutch was showing signs of slipping. This new panther clutch is supposed to have a greater clamping force so in it went too :D the new one is the one on the left.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/B0D331D7-6C80-4565-AEA0-90199E6ADDDC_zpsx93q3xh9.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/B0D331D7-6C80-4565-AEA0-90199E6ADDDC_zpsx93q3xh9.jpg.html)

After everything was in place it was quickly refitted and started back up in record time so I celebrated with a banana and a cup of coffee while it warmed up.

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I haven't test driven it yet but the clutch is defiantly heavier over the old one, that I can tell but the real test will be later on the road

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Mics126 on October 01, 2015, 08:16:55 PM
its been a long time since I have looked at this topic. its looking better than ever and it seems your really going town to improve the car.

how did the clutch do on the road test?

keep up the hard work.

Mike
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 01, 2015, 10:11:44 PM
Thank you misc  ;) yes I'm going to town and back lol still a lot to do but getting closer to my ultimate retro goal. The clutch was a success it's got a lot more grab than the old one and is also a bit stiffer to press which is down to the spring plate being stronger. I actually prefer it being stiffer as it feels a lot easier to control, I felt the standard one was too light and the biting point was too high (perhaps due to the clutch plate being worn slightly) but this new one is a lot closer to where I think it should be.

I'll be getting started on the new rear swing arms soon so I can fit the AVO rear shocks and new driveshaft tripods before I can start on the body work so watch this space  ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 11, 2015, 05:15:30 PM
Ok more updates. I've set to work on the conversion of BIS rear arms to air cooled rear arms so I can finally fit the adjustable AVOs to the rear completing the sports shock set up. I'ld bought a set of brand new rear arms of a polish chap in Northampton for not a lot of cash. Although they looked good the paint finish won't last a year and sure enough it was peeling around the edges so I decided to rub them back and repaint them. Here they are with one of them rubbed down.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/EE36CC1A-2F86-4686-B22A-812A9C69F23B_zpsj8rb23vf.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/EE36CC1A-2F86-4686-B22A-812A9C69F23B_zpsj8rb23vf.jpg.html)

I've also bought some new back plates too off our resident forum friend piotross. Again here they are getting rubbed down prior to being etched primed

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/AB8D9614-E6FD-4964-B347-A9DBB0237409_zps1vjky1uu.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/AB8D9614-E6FD-4964-B347-A9DBB0237409_zps1vjky1uu.jpg.html)

So first up is the etch primer........

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While I had the paint gun out I whipped the front top arms off and gave them a lick of primer too

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/4BD5340A-BC16-4969-834D-79C9FA1160B1_zpsa8cucljl.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/4BD5340A-BC16-4969-834D-79C9FA1160B1_zpsa8cucljl.jpg.html)

This is what I'll be using for the top coat - frost chassis black. It's more than just metal paint like hammerite. It sets rock hard and is almost impervious to most chemicals including petrol, salt and even brake fluid and of course water. I've used it before and it's great stuff :thumbup:

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/C0EA900B-4B3A-4156-A152-F43366B59979_zpsbopfchpj.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/C0EA900B-4B3A-4156-A152-F43366B59979_zpsbopfchpj.jpg.html)

And the finish result. Just need to get them on the car :)

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 19, 2015, 08:22:33 PM
Ok so cars up on axle stands ready for the suspension swap.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/62F7D844-2BD1-4E5B-AB1A-D0ED0B785975_zpsglynzjgw.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/62F7D844-2BD1-4E5B-AB1A-D0ED0B785975_zpsglynzjgw.jpg.html)

I've started at the front end with new bushes in the top arms after they had a couple of coats of chassis black.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/7943EF84-F2A2-4590-82D4-DE8DBB54A241_zpsqms3q0wv.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/7943EF84-F2A2-4590-82D4-DE8DBB54A241_zpsqms3q0wv.jpg.html)

I've also bought a lovely pair of sparco hubcentric wheel spacers to replace the dodgy solid aluminium ones
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/B5521496-F81B-4AC0-96C5-AD36C1C03210_zpsdqtyffbb.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/B5521496-F81B-4AC0-96C5-AD36C1C03210_zpsdqtyffbb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 20, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
All back together and looking real smart :D I've prectty much got as far as I can with the front suspension - lowered abarth leaf spring, cut down leaf Spring spacers (10mm shorter) AVO adjustable shocks, sparco 20mm hubcentric spacers, drilled disc conversion with OMP racing pads and braided brake hoses. And all the bushes have been replaced too so I'm happy to finally draw a line under that :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/0BFEB464-C5E6-4A16-9E40-85AA130EFAF2_zpsxinj9kar.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/0BFEB464-C5E6-4A16-9E40-85AA130EFAF2_zpsxinj9kar.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/0DEE647C-0D36-43DB-8FA6-3BA415557074_zpsa9phabyw.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/0DEE647C-0D36-43DB-8FA6-3BA415557074_zpsa9phabyw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on October 20, 2015, 09:31:57 PM
 Gadge you can still go one better. How about a fully independent and adjustable front suspension? ;D

 Great work btw. This is one well sorted 126 :thumbup
 
 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 21, 2015, 06:21:40 AM
Thinks :D I've looked into it bud and was very close to buying one only to find out that the lower wish bone wouldn't clear the brake calipers I fitted as most were designed with a drum brake in mind :( modification would've sorted it out but I couldn't be bothered so settled for this :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: DeVilleChris on October 21, 2015, 09:14:33 AM
Looking nice Gadge.

That 126 has had some serious love  8)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 21, 2015, 09:03:51 PM
Yes, probably a little too much  ;D but it keeps me out of trouble  :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on October 22, 2015, 12:06:27 PM
That's cool Gadge.
How do you run your front wheel geometry? With the standard positive camber, or do you run the wheel more vertical or even negative? Do you stick to the book settings for "toe-out" and caster?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on October 22, 2015, 08:46:02 PM
Very nice  8)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 22, 2015, 08:51:16 PM
Hi bambino, when I fitted the lower leaf spring and shortened Spring blocks I noticed I was getting a lot of positive camber. I put this down to the top arm pushing the hub out at the top as the ride height went down so I spent a bit of time using my eye studying the camber then removing the top arms and removing the shims behind them to bring the tops back in. After a few goes I got it visually right. I'm not sure if they are technically right but they look spot on so left it like that.

As for the tracking I would drive the car onto my driveway with the steering wheel in the straight ahead position then stop and literally check with my eye. I know it doesn't sound technical but with my car I could actually see one wheel poking out further than the other so I would get under it and adjust (quite easily) the track rods so that the wheels were just straight with a very small amount of toe in. I would take the car out for a drive and adjust it again until it was steering straight with the steering wheel in the straight ahead poison. Now again, it not by the book and it's probably a tad out if I were to get it properly tested but I found that it works great.

Mintex, thanks :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on October 23, 2015, 10:51:24 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 07, 2015, 02:49:09 PM
Not been a great day in the garage today, I seem to be taking one step forward and two steps back with the rear suspension rebuild. Firstly the new tripod aren't exactly playing ball (more on that in a separate thread) then the new brake pipes I made are haemorrhaging brake fluid all over my newly painted suspension arms and as much as I try I can't seem to remove the excess play in the bearings. I've pretty much hung off them with all my might and still it's there - on both sides despite the fact that there only 8000 miles old. The only thing I havnt tried is replacing them but starting to get fed up of throwing money and time at it if it doesn't sort the problem out  :(
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: dadandlad on November 07, 2015, 09:06:37 PM
Hi Gadge
Sorry to here you are having problems
I replaced my wheel bearings and thought I had them tight enough until I refit the wheels and the excess play showed up

They really do take a real effort to remove the play I ended up with a piece of 16mm bar across two of the wheel bolts which was approximately four foot long and rested it on the floor, then using my Snap On knuckle bar which is again about four foot long and my son sitting pressing the brakes hard on tightened the nut
The knuckle bar was flexing and I nearly blew a gasket and how I didn't pull it off the stands I don't know so please be careful, they are unbelievably tight for such a little car

Hope this helps and keep at it you are doing a great job  :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 07, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Yeah I had a pry bar locking the nuts and a 24" breaker bar on mine and still had play :( I think it's down to that spacer that sits I between the bearings. I still do not know its purpose but I heard somewhere that it's designed to "crush" to size when tightening but I'm at my limit at what I can do
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on November 08, 2015, 05:40:42 AM
I did my rear bearings some years ago and I remember to set them up you have to do some check with a spring balance and a piece of string wrapped around the brake drum.

I think when the rotational drag reaches 450 grams you've got them tight enough. Something like that.... It's all in the BIS manual.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on November 08, 2015, 09:08:14 AM
 Gadge if you have any of them used spacers that go in the middle between the two bearings just reuse them. That`s what I do and I never have to use a bar to tighten them.

 I was surprised recently when I picked up a very low mileage bis(4k) and there was a fair bit of play in the rear bearings. It was definitely never been tempered with and was just as it left the factory.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: dadandlad on November 08, 2015, 11:21:41 AM
Quote
I think when the rotational drag reaches 450 grams you've got them tight enough. Something like that.... It's all in the BIS manual.

That's correct but getting them tight enough is where the fun starts

Quote
Gadge if you have any of them used spacers that go in the middle between the two bearings just reuse them. That`s what I do and I never have to use a bar to tighten them.

I think this is where the problem starts, I fitted new ones and they take a lot of squeezing up but the manual does say not to reuse
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on November 08, 2015, 11:51:32 AM
 I know loads of people reuse the old ones and some reckon you don`t have to use them spacers at all :-.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 08, 2015, 01:58:33 PM
Thanks guys  :D well I had a much better day in the garage today and sorted the bearing issue out and just as I suspected it was the spacer bush.... And this is what I done. Firstly I gently prised the old seal out from the drum end. I was able to pin point it being the bush because if I put my finger and thumb on the outer race and pushed whilst doing the same on the other end I could feel it moving around a millimetre. so I simply removed the outer race and the extracted the bush.

I took it t over to my hydraulic press and had a go at seeing if I could squash it seen as though that's kind of what supposed to happen when you tighten the nut. A measurement of 32.5mm was recorded then I applied around 3 tonnes of pressure and went off for a coffee. 20 minutes later I re measured it and it read....... 32.5mm :-X so nothing happened - God only knows how anyone is able to crush one of these to size and worryingly I have 3 more of these bushes (2 new) and they are all the same size!

So the solution was simple if alittle unorthodox  - I ground them down by just under 1 millimetre using a bench mounted belt sander and refitted it all back together and "Roberts your fathers brother" the play has gone!  ;D in fact they spun so freely it's the best I've ever seen!  

I still havnt sorted the tripod issues as time restraints (an afternoon down the pub) has got in the way but it looks like I'll have to undo the gearbox and shove it over :(
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: thepuddlejumper on November 08, 2015, 06:23:29 PM
I had to use a 1m bar with the hub locked to crush the spacer, it takes a lot of effort to crush the spacer. I now just re-use the crushed spacer and have had no problems since.

Ralph
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 08, 2015, 06:35:53 PM
Yes it's definatly a lesson learnt if I ever need to replace a bearing. The longest bar I have is a 24" breaker bar but that still wasn't enough and if three tonnes couldn't do it then I doubt I could've  :o
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: DeVilleChris on November 08, 2015, 08:54:09 PM
Bad days and good days!

At least you found a solution, progress is progress!! :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 22, 2015, 01:27:14 PM
Well today I am (hopefully) tasting success after a slow and not very straight forward suspension rebuild. I say "hopefully" as per usual what your about to see below hasn't yet been road tested but I'm hopefull everything will be ok :)

So to recap I managed get both tripods in by undoing the nut on one of the gearbox mounts and removing completely the other one and with a long bar I managed to manoeuvre the joints into place. The rubber inserts at the end proved problematic but eventually I succeeded. I have to say these tripods haven't been straight forward to fit so be prepared to think outside the box if you ever decide to fit your own.

Other problems I had which were unrelated to the tripods were the new brake pipe unions not sealing and leaking oil all over my newly painted rear arms which needed sanding down and repainting and excess play In both the bearings which I sorted (see above posts). Once all problems were sorted I got it back on the floor and rolled it outside for the first time ages. Here's the finished results.

 (http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/783D03CE-1AB3-4C41-BAC7-4C290DDF5BD3_zpsifelexzw.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/783D03CE-1AB3-4C41-BAC7-4C290DDF5BD3_zpsifelexzw.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/665981DF-4CDE-4883-B4A0-7109CA399B72_zpstkapolqw.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/665981DF-4CDE-4883-B4A0-7109CA399B72_zpstkapolqw.jpg.html)

So it seems aircooled rear arms can be adapted to fit BIS models which is great for anyone looking for sports shocks on their BIS. Mine now has matching front and rear set but the real test is on the road so fingers crossed.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/B7588C8C-1630-4DF4-9E22-E81C09E9EACB_zpsfn4jj7mo.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/B7588C8C-1630-4DF4-9E22-E81C09E9EACB_zpsfn4jj7mo.jpg.html)

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: DeVilleChris on November 22, 2015, 03:51:43 PM
Can't wait for mine to look as good as that underneath...

Looking good, hopefully they will work when on the road too and will ride nicely

Chris
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Crusader on November 22, 2015, 04:10:12 PM
Gadge, what's the benefit of aircooled suspension over BIS?  I didn't even know they were different.

Some top work going on there buddy. Would love to see it on the deck.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 22, 2015, 04:38:17 PM
Chris - thanks buddy  :D going on what I've heard they should ride beautifully and unoticable too.

Crusader - it means I'm able to fit aircooled sports shocks as BIS sports shocks are too expensive
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 23, 2015, 06:07:55 PM
Just another quick update. Earlier in the summer I took a punt and bought a stronger engine mount Spring. It's yet another aircooled interchangeable part and I bought it as sometimes I could hear the sides of the engine knocking some part of the engine bay just after start up. It's a tad shorter than the standard Spring but has thicker coils which make it stiffer. I bought it from a 500 tuning specialist off eBay.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/AAE11D45-8A6E-4450-8811-E4E8546BF929_zpsgk5sf5bk.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/AAE11D45-8A6E-4450-8811-E4E8546BF929_zpsgk5sf5bk.jpg.html)

Fortunately it's shorter size doesn't effect it when installed and looks pretty smart once it was in :). Still have to wait unit the weekend to see if that and the new suspension is ok

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/7D5E7BD0-AAF1-4616-93EF-24570DEAC011_zps8lgzaukh.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/7D5E7BD0-AAF1-4616-93EF-24570DEAC011_zps8lgzaukh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on November 25, 2015, 12:33:20 PM
Awesome! Would love to know how it rides?

Also you seems to have solved the age old problem of Bis rear bump stops with some smart looking non-standard items.
What are they and where did you get them?

I've got an Mot due in January and have one broken one and one missing one!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 25, 2015, 02:32:41 PM
Yes this weekend I'll be taking it out and we'll know for sure if it's worked or not. The bump stops are actually from a fiat coupe. I bought them off eBay for £16 for the pair and Fe a perfect fit :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on November 26, 2015, 03:04:23 PM
Looking good as always bud  8)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 28, 2015, 06:11:45 PM
Thanks minty :thumbup

So I have an update. I took luigi out for its first drive with the multiple modifications that I've spent the last 2 months installing - new aircooled rear arms, AVO adjustable shocks, tripod cv joints and stiffened rear engine mount Spring, and I'm pleased to say all is well  ;D no problems whatsoever with the different rear arms or with the tripods so I'm really pleased that I am finished with all of the suspension work and modifications that I wanted to achieve and I can move on to the body work  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 09, 2016, 02:58:13 PM
Ok so I thought i'ld start at the back with the rear panel. Jobs to do here were to weld up the three holes at the bottom, weld up the old holes from the number plate and strip the old underseal off the bottom.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/3FD0BFBC-DB4E-426F-A336-206AEF0777D0_zps2ikeferg.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/3FD0BFBC-DB4E-426F-A336-206AEF0777D0_zps2ikeferg.jpg.html)

And it didn't take long for a problem to arise. As I started to strip the paint back I came across a large patch of filler in the top right corner. Looks like someone in the past had tried to lever the badge off and crumpled the panel. I prised a piece of that was 5mm thick.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/EA7955EC-5CD0-4F68-8105-2AE446FC9CD2_zpslufmew9y.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/EA7955EC-5CD0-4F68-8105-2AE446FC9CD2_zpslufmew9y.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/70E8630F-E181-4573-86C0-7478256EC3AD_zpskaytkoh9.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/70E8630F-E181-4573-86C0-7478256EC3AD_zpskaytkoh9.jpg.html)

I couldn't really leave it that way so I bashed it out as best I could and carried on with the rest of the work.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/01E9F2DA-E93B-4386-A0CC-777358041078_zpspbjkpwja.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/01E9F2DA-E93B-4386-A0CC-777358041078_zpspbjkpwja.jpg.html)

In the end I still had to use a skim of filler to even the area out but nowhere as thick as before and with primer on its starting to look a lot better

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/24E4FBCA-E4F8-41C6-BBA9-D6C6AB339DDA_zpsnpftta44.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/24E4FBCA-E4F8-41C6-BBA9-D6C6AB339DDA_zpsnpftta44.jpg.html)







Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on February 09, 2016, 08:22:10 PM
Looks perfect to me  8)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 09, 2016, 09:08:07 PM
Thanks bambino I'm hoping filler primer will be my saviour  :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: jacw on February 11, 2016, 08:51:17 PM
Great tip on the Fiat coupe rear bump stops, perfect. Thanks.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 08, 2016, 08:46:44 AM
Started some work on the corners now. I decided to get rid of the bumper mounts (tbc on the front). This was simple enough just cut the raised part out with a cutter and weld a new peice in. Once all the welds were ground down it was filled with a skim of filler which was sanded and etch primed :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/01AF7CC6-DEE3-4FAA-BE9B-3F6BD53B9EF2_zpsw112ga4z.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/01AF7CC6-DEE3-4FAA-BE9B-3F6BD53B9EF2_zpsw112ga4z.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/8DCB8E33-E271-44D1-A4FF-17B906A93A4D_zpsxh8wi8ge.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/8DCB8E33-E271-44D1-A4FF-17B906A93A4D_zpsxh8wi8ge.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/7CACCD35-E595-4165-A34C-D3ABFEDD7B0B_zpsfoefh1ww.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/7CACCD35-E595-4165-A34C-D3ABFEDD7B0B_zpsfoefh1ww.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/C900D7E4-6217-4CCA-88A7-44ECDA1430AB_zpsgk8izrmz.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/C900D7E4-6217-4CCA-88A7-44ECDA1430AB_zpsgk8izrmz.jpg.html)



Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on March 08, 2016, 12:04:28 PM
Very nice work- do t forget a hole for your fog light wire!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 08, 2016, 12:37:41 PM
Thanks mate I'm way ahead of you, I've ground a hole out of the bumper bracket holes(see above photo of the rear panel) so the wire can pass though :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on March 12, 2016, 09:34:06 PM
Nice job  :good:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 02, 2016, 04:30:57 PM
The great strip down begins..... To make life a lot easier for myself I decided to gut luigi and put everything in the loft. This way working around the car becomes a lot easier without tripping over everything.

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on April 04, 2016, 02:33:11 PM
 What`s going on? You have only just put it together ;D
 Is it getting a paint job?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 04, 2016, 06:05:48 PM
Haha yes! I know I'm a devil for tinkering lol  :P it's getting a new paint job so stripping it out and prepping the bodywork to save time and costs. I'm also using this opportunity to do some body mods like weld up the trim panel holes in the doors and chop out the bumper bracket mounting points.... Oh and there's the issue of some dreaded tin rot on the lower wind screen panel that needs addressing before it eats away at the rest of the car  :o
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on April 07, 2016, 05:13:37 PM
Have a job to keep up with you mate lol, what colour you going for?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 07, 2016, 08:09:34 PM
I know I'm always thinking of what's next  :D but after the respray I think I'm pretty much done ild say :thumbup

I'm just going for the same colour white. The old paint job wasn't great plus there was rust starting to rear its ugly head so it's best to just get these things sorted sooner
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on April 14, 2016, 08:30:11 AM
I'm now turning my attentions towards the front. I stripped out both doors of window related guff and welded up the holes left over from the plastic side trims which are now being remove to complete the retro look. There was also some unwanted rust creeping through in the corners which was sorted out.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/A8DB0D12-BEDA-432D-93E9-09CE7D4306D1_zpsu1uatktl.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/A8DB0D12-BEDA-432D-93E9-09CE7D4306D1_zpsu1uatktl.jpg.html)

Removal of the front windscreen revealed what I already knew....the corners were shot. Easy fix i'ld say.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/363D2E6F-9464-4F6A-9A4D-94FADD2CAFD4_zpsw9h1rrx0.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/363D2E6F-9464-4F6A-9A4D-94FADD2CAFD4_zpsw9h1rrx0.jpg.html)

This is why it was nescarary to do all this bodywork, although the car looked OK from 6ft away there was hidden rot which if ignored would only lead to thurther woes 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 16, 2016, 04:50:45 PM
Ok here's an update. I've been busy getting luigi ready for his new paint job. To keep the costs down one area that won't be getting done by the professionals is the front luggage area, but it was quite a mess! The battery tray had rotted out, the brake resovior had leaked its paint stripping juices all over and there was corrosion at the bottom off the spare wheel well. So over the last few weeks I've attacked it with angle grinders, sanders and a mig welder. In went a brand new battery tray and new metal was welded in at the bottom of the spare wheel well then set to work stripping as much paint and seam sealer I could.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/495F1643-05E5-4316-AA52-11376E4A49D1_zpsybqnrbhn.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/495F1643-05E5-4316-AA52-11376E4A49D1_zpsybqnrbhn.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/0BE76BC2-DF46-4F54-ADDA-D81255E4001A_zpsaw0u94g6.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/0BE76BC2-DF46-4F54-ADDA-D81255E4001A_zpsaw0u94g6.jpg.html)

After several trips to halfords to buy good old 224 white this was the result
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/6471B97F-28E4-4AA2-BA9A-7668279A85C6_zpsaueqzhls.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/6471B97F-28E4-4AA2-BA9A-7668279A85C6_zpsaueqzhls.jpg.html)

There were a few modifications done along the way. I've fitted a battery earth isolator and a novel little magic box I bought off eBay which makes the wipers come on when you put the washers on :). The biggest modification however came quite by accident. I fitted a different master cylinder (20.5 bore) to improve the spongyness I was getting in the pedal. Although identical to the original 126 one it has a longer nut on the end which the old cover will not fit over so I bought one off a lhd car with the extension on. Fitting this however means I can't fit a spare wheel in the usual place at the front so I've made and adaptor using an old bearing carrier and some box section which will sit on the top part in the luggage compartment.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/890B22FB-98A5-4A2E-8D8A-0EC679DFBC17_zpsz0eks3yx.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/890B22FB-98A5-4A2E-8D8A-0EC679DFBC17_zpsz0eks3yx.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/3FE3B0F4-F296-44F6-88C5-FFC659992548_zpsdxqzwbso.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/3FE3B0F4-F296-44F6-88C5-FFC659992548_zpsdxqzwbso.jpg.html)

It bolts in from the bottom and is angled so it will clear all the surrounding objects and will clear the bonet. This little feature will also come in handy when I fit wide wheels on it as 175s won't go in the front wheel well anyway. It can be removed if it's not needed quickly enough too.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/EA83CF80-1F0F-4063-8D5E-CD3A5B785E84_zpswozserjr.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/EA83CF80-1F0F-4063-8D5E-CD3A5B785E84_zpswozserjr.jpg.html)


Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Bambino126 on July 16, 2016, 05:02:11 PM
WOW!!!
Your fabrications skills have no boundaries.
Your modifications always look so "Original Fiat"..... A person who didn't know 126's wouldn't know they didn't come like that.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on July 16, 2016, 06:17:47 PM
that's a great idea- I might have to pinch that (for a small fee!)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 16, 2016, 09:53:09 PM
Thanks guys  :D it's starting to take shape  ;)

Stuey, it's definatly a worth while mod. It takes a bit of fettling to get the angle and the position right so that it clears all the heater assembly, jack and the bonnet but it's surprising how big a wheel you can fit under there!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on July 16, 2016, 11:24:01 PM
Great work Gadge but where are you going to put your sandwicheson a serious note why do you need to do that when you can use the original 126 wheel in the wheel well, this strengthens the front end in case of a front end collision


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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 17, 2016, 09:15:51 AM
The sandwiches will have to go on the back seat  ;D

I can't get the original 135 wheel into the spare wheel well because of the new extended master cylinder cover. It sticks out too much on the RHD cars so I can't squeeze the wheel past the cover and the jack holder. It's not an ideal solution perhaps maybe I can cut a hole in the old cover to clear the new master cylinder? I made the new adaptor so it could be bolted in and removed (as opposed to just welding it straight on) so that if a solution came about I could revert to the original set up.

The other reason is that I have 5 speedline alloys which won't fit in the wheel well anyway so this way it keeps everything all matching
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 17, 2016, 02:42:53 PM
more work done today. I bought this lovely period halfords washer bottle kit. This is a genuine early 1960's item which came with a hand operated water pump! Fortunately I've bought an electric Lucas washer pump and installed it on the inner wing where the washer bag went.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/45B1B908-EE0A-4FC8-8965-ECFACEDBEFBA_zpswypteb9a.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/45B1B908-EE0A-4FC8-8965-ECFACEDBEFBA_zpswypteb9a.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/FC82E996-432D-4E7C-BD06-7D3533E65350_zpscqhkxare.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-07/FC82E996-432D-4E7C-BD06-7D3533E65350_zpscqhkxare.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on July 17, 2016, 10:18:10 PM
Aren't any of the fiat space saver wheels narrower?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on July 18, 2016, 06:15:24 AM
Not sure pete. The seicento uses 135 70 spaces savers - the same as a standard 126 BIS tyre so unless they do a 125 size?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 06, 2016, 04:51:28 PM
Getting ready for paint :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/F87A9761-F82C-4704-8A9A-EB354CE8495F_zps1abuktcl.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/F87A9761-F82C-4704-8A9A-EB354CE8495F_zps1abuktcl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 24, 2016, 06:28:37 PM
So an update. I have finally found a body shop willing to do the work and, more importantly, can do it in time for me to put it back together ready for the NEC classic car show in November. A date (or a price) has not been agreed just yet but its looking good for the job so fingers crossed for a great result. In the mean time I have been down to the powder coaters and picked up the radiator guard and the crankcase cover that I dropped in and I've been busy rubbing and sanding all the bodywork down so the body shop has less work to do.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/EB302B66-274D-4EBA-BC4B-48ED6AC2DBD7_zpsoqmffvnm.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/EB302B66-274D-4EBA-BC4B-48ED6AC2DBD7_zpsoqmffvnm.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/1A8394EE-2B8D-4285-A351-EC54501F10B5_zpsp3qqlify.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/1A8394EE-2B8D-4285-A351-EC54501F10B5_zpsp3qqlify.jpg.html)

One of the last places I rubbed back was the area around the coolant tank cap. It seemed to have a rubbery texture to it around the cap. A quick prod with a screw driver revealed that the entire area on the right side was made of silicone sealant. What lay beneath was rotten bodywork showing that you really can't trust some cars.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/F7C3590B-DD68-47F5-9D3D-D0C4BD5C2AB7_zps8nr1j9wr.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/F7C3590B-DD68-47F5-9D3D-D0C4BD5C2AB7_zps8nr1j9wr.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/8FA092B6-3EE5-4838-BEE7-C1D960E616EB_zpst5tuv7sd.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/8FA092B6-3EE5-4838-BEE7-C1D960E616EB_zpst5tuv7sd.jpg.html)

Unfortunately there's only one real way to sort this - the last owner seemingly chose not to do it when he was faced with this dilemma - was to weld in good metal. Not an easy job given all those curves but with patience it's amazing what can be achieved.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAD9DCDD-64A0-4007-B06A-46B7A820C958_zpsj977g3fa.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAD9DCDD-64A0-4007-B06A-46B7A820C958_zpsj977g3fa.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/EED8E919-3A51-4092-8C1F-835C470F2AAC_zpstlld2wlr.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/EED8E919-3A51-4092-8C1F-835C470F2AAC_zpstlld2wlr.jpg.html)

Ground back with a skim of filler and job done. All in all 3 hours work but well worth it :thumbup

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/653314DA-352D-4531-A8A7-75BB1B866C80_zpswmax5nom.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/653314DA-352D-4531-A8A7-75BB1B866C80_zpswmax5nom.jpg.html)

I've been buying parts in a flurry ready to fit to the car when it returns from the body shop - new badges, door mirrors (x2 this time) and other things as well as sorting some of the wiring out prior to refitting the carpert. I also bought some splendid veglia gauges to go under the stereo consol so I'll get the wires all down ready :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/60B26CF6-6F3F-46E5-9B3A-63A0C3E1390C_zpshzwfk8gm.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/60B26CF6-6F3F-46E5-9B3A-63A0C3E1390C_zpshzwfk8gm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: mintex on September 02, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
Nice job with the water bottle, the standard bag idea is pants lol.

Going to look good when it's finished mate  :good:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 03, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
Thanks Dave the bottle is definatly one of those touches that will make the car special. Plus it now with the removal of the colestomy bags in the inner wings I now have have tool storage :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Yoshimisumi on September 11, 2016, 09:37:04 PM
What door mirrors have you gone for? The low profile metal type are looking top of my list at the mo.


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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: shielsy on September 12, 2016, 12:02:11 AM
 :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 12, 2016, 12:17:54 PM
What door mirrors have you gone for? The low profile metal type are looking top of my list at the mo.


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The mirrors were a subject of great debate in my mind and I must have bought no less the three different sorts over the last few months and couldn't make my mind up so went for a pair of brand new plastic ones that were standard issue for a few fiat models in the 70's. If some nice chrome ones turn up I'll could always buy them later on
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Yoshimisumi on September 12, 2016, 10:33:09 PM
Sound good - I'm after a black classic style so thinking of paint up some chrome ones but I'll wait and see what yours are like first! Keep up the great work!


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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: danthemanic on September 13, 2016, 01:28:48 PM
Sound good - I'm after a black classic style so thinking of paint up some chrome ones but I'll wait and see what yours are like first! Keep up the great work!


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I've got a pair of black plastic ones gathering dust at the moment, from my 85 126p.  Any good to you?
Title: luigi II
Post by: Yoshimisumi on September 14, 2016, 06:30:19 AM

I've got a pair of black plastic ones gathering dust at the moment, from my 85 126p.  Any good to you?

Possibly, ta, I'll send you pm


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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 08, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Ok three weeks ago I said goodbye to Luigi for a few days for his well needed (and overdue) respray. The chosen body shop was rugby Autobodies who quoted me a very reasonable price so and even picked it up. Here was that moment.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/801B3612-92D6-4F6D-8F01-A526D805B915_zps2ggo98lp.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/801B3612-92D6-4F6D-8F01-A526D805B915_zps2ggo98lp.jpg.html)

The work took around two weeks to complete often with the guys working to midnight :o. I went for 2 pack white in the original 224 shade.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/ED0137A3-B433-42FB-B5B2-014C7F8A97F9_zps6jrzctx3.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/ED0137A3-B433-42FB-B5B2-014C7F8A97F9_zps6jrzctx3.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/ED909A1E-2940-4888-B5F6-8A92AAFD8109_zpsgazehixh.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/ED909A1E-2940-4888-B5F6-8A92AAFD8109_zpsgazehixh.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/15BD3479-181D-4900-BC8F-B30433CC455C_zpsim8mzhil.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/15BD3479-181D-4900-BC8F-B30433CC455C_zpsim8mzhil.jpg.html)

And then he came home :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Luigi/6912003D-7E81-43B0-88B3-8A37DEE3435E_zpshevwhasl.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Luigi/6912003D-7E81-43B0-88B3-8A37DEE3435E_zpshevwhasl.jpg.html)

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: NathanMcM on October 11, 2016, 04:39:05 AM
Looks bloody mint!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 23, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Well it's been a hard slog (about a year I'ld say) but I've finally made it! I fitted the final pieces of the 126 puzzle yesterday and got him running and I'm over the moon with the results. It still needs an MOT so fingers crossed it'll pass. So here's the finished article:)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/C63E8385-37C8-44A3-AF04-BD7AE26DA044_zps5gjmlhai.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/C63E8385-37C8-44A3-AF04-BD7AE26DA044_zps5gjmlhai.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/046F3C5B-8F44-40D3-A040-0E28DF14D502_zps8sarp1ar.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/046F3C5B-8F44-40D3-A040-0E28DF14D502_zps8sarp1ar.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/DDC4DF5F-361F-4D6A-B24B-8833A33CB996_zpsdn7wrhgo.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/DDC4DF5F-361F-4D6A-B24B-8833A33CB996_zpsdn7wrhgo.jpg.html)

The eagle eyed would've noticed the small changes I made during the body refurb. I've smoothed out the rear bumper mounts on the back edge of the rear arch, blanked over completely the dummy air vent on the front passenger side scuttle, moved the aerial to the roof and removed the side plastic trims from the door. I've also fitted early plastic door mirrors (2 of them this time) and Ford Fiesta mk 2 side repeaters to finish it all off. There were also changes inside too.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/1197A1F9-D776-4D8C-BEAB-A69A5FE44F23_zpssu6d8pk2.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/1197A1F9-D776-4D8C-BEAB-A69A5FE44F23_zpssu6d8pk2.jpg.html)

A strada abarth steering wheel (or possibly a 127?) cleaned up incredibly well and I also fitted a leather gearstick gaitor and later EL type indicator/wiper stalks

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/2BA383B0-FD6E-4C23-A8EF-89343452D7CC_zpsvmvbxtz5.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/2BA383B0-FD6E-4C23-A8EF-89343452D7CC_zpsvmvbxtz5.jpg.html)

Inertia rear seat belts! A much better idea than the adjustable lap belts and tidier too :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/56E20A4E-8909-48AF-8818-1AEFDA7E61FA_zpsjvk2au8q.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/56E20A4E-8909-48AF-8818-1AEFDA7E61FA_zpsjvk2au8q.jpg.html)

I had a load of cloth left over from when I recovered the parcel shelf so made this splendid cover for the front luggage compartment. Note the original NOS Halfords washer bottle to replace the bag.

So there it is. It's been hard work and I've missed driving him over the last year so I'm looking forward to next year :D


Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: thepuddlejumper on October 23, 2016, 06:16:38 PM
Gadge, looks stunning.

Ralph
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on October 23, 2016, 06:19:51 PM
Ill say it time and time again awesome 126 -nice work!  8)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on October 24, 2016, 05:49:17 PM
caw.. I can't wait to have mine resprayed.

What is the ring-clamp that holds your washer bottle attached to?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on October 24, 2016, 07:12:36 PM
Look fantastic Gadge, well done mate :good: Hope to see you both next year ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 24, 2016, 07:31:45 PM
Thanks Pete I can't wait to hit the club scene again in luigi. This year has been heart breaking not being able to get involved

 
caw.. I can't wait to have mine resprayed.

What is the ring-clamp that holds your washer bottle attached to?

It's just an old bracket which has a slight curve in it. I belive it was for an old K&N air filter so you could bolt the pipe to a bulk head or something. It fitted the washer bottle perfect so I bolted it to the inside of the head light housing
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 29, 2016, 12:47:12 PM
Luigi passed his MOT  :wave  so I'm good for a years worth of shows  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: thepuddlejumper on October 29, 2016, 12:54:11 PM
Great news, didn't doubt it passing, best 126 around.

Ralph
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 29, 2016, 03:16:13 PM
There were a few advisories though - front kingpin had some slight play in it and one of the rear brake pipes is rubbing slightly on the bodywork. Not too bad really and could have been worse
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on October 29, 2016, 08:13:23 PM
Great News mate, Well Done :good:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on October 31, 2016, 12:30:53 PM
All legal for another years worth of shows :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/81FADC23-71E7-4C0C-BF5F-D2249F2AE4E2_zpsjnqi8txe.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/81FADC23-71E7-4C0C-BF5F-D2249F2AE4E2_zpsjnqi8txe.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on October 31, 2016, 07:18:27 PM
Wrap it up for winter now ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 05, 2016, 07:15:03 PM
Wrap it up for winter now ;D

Will do, I bought a cover :D in the mean time I replaced the speedo cable, put some extra grease in the kingpins and reset the timing and fuel mixture. He now runs like a sewing machine :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/19B5F7EB-A083-47BB-B718-B5C50D1BE3D0_zpspy6alt39.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/19B5F7EB-A083-47BB-B718-B5C50D1BE3D0_zpspy6alt39.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 10, 2016, 06:52:42 PM
Luigis first outing after his rebuild - the NEC classic car show :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/0BAD37EF-E757-45D0-8473-24361BAA33A2_zpstgk6jlo2.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/0BAD37EF-E757-45D0-8473-24361BAA33A2_zpstgk6jlo2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on November 10, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
Looks great Gadge, Have a great weekend :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Amateb8 on November 12, 2016, 01:22:37 PM
I went through the first to the last thread, like reading a very interesting novel. You have done an amazing job with the car, and that is an understatement. I'd love to see your car in the flesh!! Well done!!!!

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 13, 2016, 09:08:12 AM
Thanks guys :thumbup Amateb8 it makes an interesting read doesn't it :D I looked through it last night and I forgotten I had done a lot of the stuff I did. I set to build what I would see as the ultimate 126BIS by trying out new ideas but it was becoming apparent that there was not a lot of info in terms of modification where as the air cooled version was very well catered for. I had a feeling that there were many mods that could be carried over but no one had tried yet so I thought that this was the time to do it. I had the money and I very much doubt I'll ever do one again so I set about creating a well sorted car and no stone was left unturned. Body work was carefully modified to give it a less cluttered look, early type items were used in place of the later items (just personal tastes) and mechanical modifications were chosen to not only improve reliability such as waterless coolant, CV type tripods electric fuel pump but also safety like the disc brake conversion rear inertia seat belts. Also some myths were put to bed such as fitting sports adjustable shocks which were thought to be almost impossible Because hardly anyone makes them or using a "big valve head" off a cinquecento and of course modifying a 500 giardinirea sports exhaust to fit when sports exhausts simply don't exist. Some items such as the vinyl interior weren't a straight fit but with a little time and some work it is possible if you really want to. I learnt over the years that BIS owners don't have to be restricted because of lack of dedicated tuning or modifying or styling parts around.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/B01D7089-EB88-4CF1-AD69-5CB82DA3D341_zpsdnnglo0t.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/B01D7089-EB88-4CF1-AD69-5CB82DA3D341_zpsdnnglo0t.jpg.html)

Getting it to the NEC classic car show was a big deal for me. I've always wanted to restore a car and show it there and I finally achieved it and the response was amazing! People loved it and lots of people (and journalists) have been asking questions and taking pictures and everyone smiles at it. It's been a real buzz! And it makes all those bleeding knuckles moments worth it. There's still some work to do - I ran out of time to do the headlining, there's a leak on the rear window, alloys to restore and fit and there's that question on whether or not to bite the bullet and fit a 5 speed gearbox. So I'm not done yet :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on November 13, 2016, 02:06:22 PM
with all the tuning I see no reason that it won't benefit from a 5th gear.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 13, 2016, 08:18:35 PM
with all the tuning I see no reason that it won't benefit from a 5th gear.

It's my bank account I'm worried about  :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on November 13, 2016, 09:08:32 PM
Is there a woman in your life Gadge? You could flutter your eyelids and casually say "gee I hope there's a gearbox-kit-shaped stocking over my fireplace this Christmas"
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 13, 2016, 09:21:07 PM
Is there a woman in your life Gadge? You could flutter your eyelids and casually say "gee I hope there's a gearbox-kit-shaped stocking over my fireplace this Christmas"

Yes there is a woman and no my eyelids have been well and truly fluttered to maximum effect this year already :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on November 14, 2016, 07:28:05 AM
 You`ve done a great job Gadge. This is a lovely looking Bis. I really like the simple and clean retro look 8).

 What sort of alloys are you fitting?

 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on November 14, 2016, 08:24:34 AM
Thank you :thumbup I've got some lovely speedlines from an X 1/9 (the ones with the polished face and the little round holes). My dad is currently re-polishing them to a mirror finish then I'm going for either a gloss black or anthracite colour. I'll be fitting 145 tyres to those. I've also acquired some really smart cromodoras off an alfasud so I'm also going to get them refurbished too and fit 165s on them. So I'll just keep swapping them over whenever the mood suits :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on December 08, 2016, 04:06:11 PM
Had a day off today so thought I'ld have a go at fitting these rubber headlight surrounds. With no fitting instructions and no way of working out how they fit (or which way around they go) I basically had to guess so removed both headlights and fitted them as best I could. I'm not 100% happy with how they fit but with a bit more Fettling I think they'll look good - incidentally I still don't know if I have them the right way around.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/4C4B5F77-7AE3-4000-B0EF-A98EB39A9F9D_zpsxlcm55ji.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/4C4B5F77-7AE3-4000-B0EF-A98EB39A9F9D_zpsxlcm55ji.jpg.html)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/4A528E33-F096-4227-B684-6DF20D02A257_zpspfxn94d1.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/4A528E33-F096-4227-B684-6DF20D02A257_zpspfxn94d1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on December 08, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
I took a stanley knife to mine so that they'd fit into the shape of the "eye socket" so to speak. However gave up eventually, reasoning that they're too stiff and don't look that great anyway!

Perhaps you could try the other type (http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7030.msg49545#msg49545) of protectors
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on December 08, 2016, 08:31:00 PM
One side looks great it's just the other. It's not helped by the fact there's no obvious way to fit them  :(
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: drcdb15 on December 08, 2016, 09:23:48 PM
there's no obvious way to fit them  :(

Could it be they're meant to be bonded in place with a sealant or adhesive? That would presumably make water ingress to the boot area lea likely.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on December 08, 2016, 09:31:42 PM
there's no obvious way to fit them  :(

Could it be they're meant to be bonded in place with a sealant or adhesive? That would presumably make water ingress to the boot area lea likely.

I tried fixing them in place before refitting the headlights but you can't push the headlight though the hole
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on December 08, 2016, 09:44:01 PM
You've not got it the wrong way round ;D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: drcdb15 on December 08, 2016, 10:57:10 PM
Have you looked at Google images? A bit like ebay, you can find ANYTHING on Google Images!

I searched on "Fiat 126 headlamp" and found these three pix. It looks like there are at least two different screw-fixing options.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on December 09, 2016, 09:12:51 AM
I have the ones in the middle picture. Those tabs allude to nothing about how they attach  ::) it looks like you screw them into the sides of the inner plastic covers but you wouldn't be able to push the head light back in after you did that?? So in the end I bent one of the tabs by 90 degrees and fixed it with the push tab that holds the plastic in and the other is just loose so would probably pop out as soon as I drive it
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: drcdb15 on December 09, 2016, 02:50:18 PM
I am reminded of the long debate on here about the number of splines on the steering column versus the number on the steering wheel boss, and the mystery was finally solved with the explanation that Fiat had raided the Seicento (was it? can't rightly recall, but it certainly wasn't a 126) parts bin...

I wonder if what you have is parts from 4 different 126 variants, ie bodyshell from 126 model 1, headlamp bowls (ie the black plastic bowls the glass unit sits in) from variant 2, headlamps (ie the glass units with the bulbs inside) from variant 3 and the surround trims (the bits you re trying to fit) from variant 4.

That would explain why the holes/tabs/lugs etc on the surround don't seem to have any obvious correlation with the other parts you are trying to attach them to, and why the glass unit will not "fit through the hole".

If that is correct, then all you need to do is identify and get the correct surrounds for your particular bodyshell/headlamp bowl...  a simple task, shouldn't take more than about... oh, maybe 30 years !!!  :P  (actually, I rather think it's time to reach for the sealant gun!). Good luck !
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on December 09, 2016, 05:18:18 PM
Sealant gun or a pop rivet set is looking good right now  :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on December 10, 2016, 08:44:32 AM
I'm pretty sure the glass isn't meant to fit through surround, otherwise it wouldn't really be a good covering!

How about this:

1. Bend the metal parts perpendicular to the front of the trim
2. Remove the light unit and fit the surround onto the front of it
3. Bend the metal parts to the angle of the side of the light
4. Take a cable tie and loop it through each end of the metal tabs, then tighten it so that it pulls the surround against the light unit, make sure it's secure but not in the way of the light contacts!
5. Cut off any excess cable tie and fit the light unit back into the socket
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on December 10, 2016, 01:33:52 PM
That's a pretty good suggestion xylaquin so I went into the garage to see what could be done and was greeted - rather unsurprisingly - to one of the surrounds peeling away so I started again. Out came the headlight and pretty much did what you suggested xylaquin fitted the surrounds onto the light whilst it was on the bench  and bent the tabs around the lip of the seal where the lens joins the casing. With this done it was pretty secure and may have been good enough but I wasn't taking any chances so I tied them up using welding wire.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/B69AA726-E846-4283-8C5C-A351BAF35D7B_zpskgad1v34.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/B69AA726-E846-4283-8C5C-A351BAF35D7B_zpskgad1v34.jpg.html)

Fitting them in was just a matter of pushing the head lamp back in. In fact I can't believe I didn't do it like this in the first place! They are solid and well secure. They still don't quite fit flush in some areas aiding to the above theory of them not being for this model however very pleased :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/9D2449FC-2473-478D-86DE-E0727FE9D640_zpsbfukees4.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/9D2449FC-2473-478D-86DE-E0727FE9D640_zpsbfukees4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: drcdb15 on December 10, 2016, 10:52:12 PM
Seeing those pictures and how easily you could form the shape of the tabs I strongly suspect these *are* the correct surrounds for your car. The tabs would be shipped flat for ease of packaging, and the fact that if they were pre-shaped they'd have to be opened out a bit anyway to fit - so why not have them flat, and minimise packaging/shipping issues and bend to fit on site. After all, how often will they ever be moved after installation? On a typical car probably no more than once or twice in the life of the car.

That then leaves the matter of the flushness of the fit. Generally trim parts like these will be injection moulded, and the final product will contain a fair amount of moulded-in strain. Particularly over the long time period for these old parts, this strain will cause deformation of the plastic, resulting in less than perfect fit. Even when new the two sides were most likely never perfect mirror images, and neither will be your bodyshell around the headlamp holes.

Many years ago I was in a crash when the entire car bodyshell was bent. To my surprise, rather than write it off the insurer had all the trim parts stripped off and fitted to a new bodyshell. Of course, virtually none of the parts ever fitted entirely properly, and the 'new' car was for ever creaking as the various trim parts flexed and moved and twisted. It was a disaster from the point of view of getting a good fit. Fortunately for me it was a company car, and the crash not my fault, so I wasn't bothered too much. But it demonstrated perfectly how plastic trims 'settle' into place, and don't like being disturbed.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: shielsy on December 11, 2016, 10:51:19 PM
looking good
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on January 22, 2017, 06:13:51 PM
Out and about for the first time in 2017 :)

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: jonny126 on January 24, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
That sits so well. Absolutely gorgeous.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on February 18, 2017, 03:29:24 PM
Fitted nice new brembos today as the old cross drilled ones were starting to look very ropey. I think sitting in a garage for nearly a year took its toll on them as they were very pitted. I thought driving around for a few months would clean them up but it wasn't to be so I bought these and a new fitting kit too (springs and a new pin) :)

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 01, 2017, 08:25:50 PM
Ok small update. Last year I bought them from a member from Halifax (my apologies I can't remember the members name). They're cromodoras and were once fitted to early 80's alfas probably a sud. I bought them despite already owning a set of speedlines which I bought not long before because A, they were a good price and B, I thought they would look awesome on Luigi so I picked them up and put them in the shed until my to do list got shorter and I was able to give them some attention.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-02/6B78FF03-BA0B-4433-98C6-823CC79A551F_zpswfrywgwj.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-02/6B78FF03-BA0B-4433-98C6-823CC79A551F_zpswfrywgwj.jpg.html)

So the other week I decided that the time was right to give them a spruce up and sent them off to be chemically dipped and resprayed in silver. The old tyres will be sold on as they are still very good just the wrong size and a new set of 165 55s will hopefully be going on very soon :thumbup

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: thepuddlejumper on March 01, 2017, 09:48:50 PM
Gadge, I have a set of these with 165 x 55,s on my Gamine, they look very period and great.

Ralph
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on March 02, 2017, 08:06:39 AM
 
 Gadge the wheels look great.
 Have you actually tried them on the car? I`ve had a problem with the offset of these on the back of a 126.
 
 
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 02, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
Not tried them on yet what was the issue? Were the sticking out too much?
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on March 02, 2017, 10:30:13 AM
 There wasn`t enough clearance and they were touching the rear arms. Once I have spaced them out, they were too far out. My car was lowered a bit which probably didn`t help, so I gave up on them at the end.
 Not sure if they came in different offsets though.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 02, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
Ok so I got home from work today and headed straight for the garage and whipped the old rear wheel off and just as you say 1973/126 the rim does touch BUT it's not the suspension arm it touches it's the inner wheel arch.

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So this is what I found out. I dug out and old 6mm spacer and fitted the alloy on and lowered it on a block of wood and let it settle. With the 6mm spacer the wheel just starts to rub. So I did a bit of measuring with a straight edge and worked out that from the edge of the rim to the lip of the wheel arch is 15mm - that's including the 6mm spacer so in theory a 15mm spacer should make the inner rim miss the inner arch and still be within the lip of the wheel arch

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/931FAE88-FCE2-4850-860B-748E74036C0E_zpsuulduork.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/931FAE88-FCE2-4850-860B-748E74036C0E_zpsuulduork.jpg.html)

So with a bit of luck I may well get away with this hiccup

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on March 02, 2017, 06:30:25 PM
 Couldn`t remember where they were rubbing but I know they were rubbing somewhere. I used some pretty thick alloy spacers at the end and long bolts, but the wheel started coming out a bit further than I wanted.
 You might be able to get away with these wheels and some stretched tyres.
 You`ll also have to think about the camber under load and make sure there is enough clearance.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: thepuddlejumper on March 03, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
Gadge, they fit on the Gamine fine no rubbing at the rear, I did have a slight problem with rubbing on full lock at the rear of the front inner wheel arch, this was remedied by a bit of gentle panel beating local to the area being rubbed. The Gamine has the same inner arches as the 500 this might be how they fit OK at the rear.

Ralph
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 03, 2017, 11:17:35 AM
Thanks guys the info is well appreciated :) although there is contact at the rear it can be remedied - by that I mean the wheel can be moved away from the affected area easily it's just whether the tyre will clear as I have not had any tyres fitted yet but quietly confident. I haven't tried them on the front yet but will do tomorrow so I will post my findings :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 05, 2017, 02:32:59 PM
Ok so spent yesterday and today going over things with the wheel and also sorting a few other jobs out. I pulled him out the garage and jacked one side up and whipped both wheels off (one front one rear) to see what's what. The fronts don't appear to need much fettling with the wheel appearing to miss both the shock and the rest of the suspension on either lock. Obviously without a tyre on and with the hub hanging down its hard to judge whether there will be any contact but It's quite a big arch under their so I'm reasonably happy there. It also doesn't appear to need a spacer. I had another good look at the rear and tried one on with a 20mm spacer and it seemed to bring the wheel out more than anough to clear the inner arch. So with that I've ordered a pair of sparco 16mm spacers and some extra long alloy wheel bolts to go with them. The only thing left to do is get some tyres fitted and cross my fingers as it's the only way to find out for sure  :-X

In other news I installed my gauges to the bottom of the centre console. Their not plumbed in yet but they do look great me thinks.

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I've also sorted out a common and unsightly problem regarding faded dash switches. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's dash switches look like a grey dulux paint chart so I bought some satin black vinyl wrap and switch symbol sticker sheet and wrapped them and I was very pleased with the result. The satin is pretty much an exact match for the rest of the plastic and blends in very well. Well worth doing if you've got an hour spare :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/9CB56DCE-C3E2-4077-8BB3-30A3B8155261_zpsycrytioq.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/9CB56DCE-C3E2-4077-8BB3-30A3B8155261_zpsycrytioq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Pete126 on March 05, 2017, 04:22:30 PM
Nice job Gadge :good:
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 05, 2017, 05:28:03 PM
Thank you pete  :D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: DeVilleChris on March 09, 2017, 12:23:10 PM
It was meeeeee!:D
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 09, 2017, 02:43:15 PM
It was meeeeee!:D

Ahh yes! Now I remember what do you think of the wheels mate :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on March 09, 2017, 06:00:35 PM
How do you find the sound system at speed?


and when are you going to install a 5th gear... we need a guinea pig to document installation for the rest of us  :P
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 09, 2017, 08:31:57 PM
How do you find the sound system at speed?



and when are you going to install a 5th gear... we need a guinea pig to document installation for the rest of us  :P

The sound system is pretty good :) in its day (the early 90's) it would've been the nuts and would've been more at home in a 5 series BMW rather than a budget car no bigger than a shoe box :P but it's clear enough. It'll be a lot better when I've sorted out the head lining

The 5th gear plan is still hopefully happening at some point this year perhaps autumn time. Just have to pluck up some courage to pay the £700 odd pounds to someone I've never met and hope that it all works  :o
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on March 09, 2017, 11:30:21 PM
I'm assuming half that price is for machining rather than just the kit
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 10, 2017, 07:18:30 AM
I'm assuming half that price is for machining rather than just the kit

No idea bud it's just the price that the company website says http://www.fiat500sport.com/gearbox-and-transmission/fiat-126-gearbox-kit-5-speed-0112a.html

EDIT it's about £600
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Xylaquin on March 10, 2017, 10:25:50 AM
I'm assuming half that price is for machining rather than just the kit

No idea bud it's just the price that the company website says http://www.fiat500sport.com/gearbox-and-transmission/fiat-126-gearbox-kit-5-speed-0112a.html

EDIT it's about £600

How about this, circa £400:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KIT-5-MARCE-BACCI-FIAT-500-126-MODIFICA-KIT-5-SPEED-GEAR-/331247104504?pt=Ricambi_automobili&hash=item4d1fddb1f8&clk_rvr_id=1173098863018&rmvSB=true

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 10, 2017, 08:20:43 PM
WOW that is cheap!  ;D this seller has completely missed my radar I've never seen that seller before - great shout :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: thepuddlejumper on March 10, 2017, 10:13:26 PM
This is the shop I am thinking of using to build an 800cc engine, if the vw venture bombs out. Prices seem good for most of their stuff.

Ralph
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 11, 2017, 01:41:56 PM
Early start this morning. I was at the tyre shop at 8.30 to get some hoops fitted to these wheels. My tyre of choice - 165 55 13s as fitted to cinquecento sportings - were limited as it's now becoming a rare size. There's plenty of budget ones about but I'm a funny one when it comes to tyres. So I whittled it down to two. Pirellis at £330 for four or Nangkang toursports at £179 for four. I really wanted the pirellis but they were just too expensive so I took a risk on the nangkangs. I know very little about this brand but they have been about for a while. So here they are :)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/B7E3F4B3-4236-46CB-B7C6-FD6D5772F46D_zpskoqo9wp7.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/B7E3F4B3-4236-46CB-B7C6-FD6D5772F46D_zpskoqo9wp7.jpg.html)

And here's the end result. The rear has a 16mm sparco spacer on and the front there is a 5mm one. A small road test revealed no rubbing from both ends so on the whole a very successful trip. It still needs a bit of fiddling though I'm not 100% satisfied about the spacing. I think the rear could actually go in a bit more and the front could do with coming out. So ive now ordered a 12mm for the rear and the 16mm that's on the rear now will replace the 5mm one in the front

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: thepuddlejumper on March 11, 2017, 06:06:00 PM
Gadge, looks fantastic, nice wheels.

Ralph
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 11, 2017, 06:40:01 PM
Thank you Ralph very pleased with it :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on March 19, 2017, 03:32:56 PM
In preparation for all this years events that I'm hoping to attend (fingers crossed!!) I thought it best to give Luigi some well needed attention. A few weeks ago I replaced the discs then after that it was the plugs, points and condenser and today it was the rest of the engine.

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So out came the old oil and in went some fresh 15w40, and while I was there I readjusted the tappets, cleaned out the oil filter, drained out the gearbox oil and fitted a new fuel filter. I also took the opportunity to fit a new "gold" magnetic sump plug which I'm hoping will help catch any unwanted metal shavings.

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I also need to tell people about this great tool I bought a while back but as yet hadn't used. It's a special tool to help adjust the tappers. If you've ever done this job it can be fiddly having to undo/tighten the 11mm nut while turning the adjustment screw while also trying to hold the feeler gauge. This tool however means you can do two of the operations with one hand and while it's a tad expensive (£21 iirc) it's well worth it :thumbup

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Oh and if you've ever had trouble refilling the gearbox here's what I done. An old fuel hose pushed into the fill hole and then threaded up to the top with a funnel in the other end tied up to the engine lid latch.

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: NathanMcM on April 13, 2017, 04:35:50 PM
Loving the new wheels Gadge, looks mint!
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 01, 2017, 09:24:28 AM
Top day out at brooklands this weekend. Luigi performed faultlessly on the way down buzzing along the the motorway at 60mph for two hours each way and keeping cool. Great reaction from lots of people so I'm very pleased :D

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 126blackbird on May 01, 2017, 10:15:03 AM
Hi Gadge, saw you car there but didn't see you, it looks like you were there early. It was a great day, not many 126s but plenty of 500s.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 01, 2017, 10:17:23 AM
Hi blackbird I was there early about 8.30 I think. I only saw three others there - a green one and a red one that went up the test hill (just! :D)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: 1973/126 on May 11, 2017, 09:56:18 AM
 Loving that first picture of Luigi with the white Coupe in the background 8)
 Unfortunately we couldn`t make it to Brooklands as our car wasn`t playing ball.
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on May 11, 2017, 11:22:26 AM
Never mind mate there's always next year. I like that photo too - I wished I'ld turned it so it was facing the camera though would've looked cool facing the same way all those old pre war racers did back in the day :)
Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on August 06, 2017, 08:03:28 PM
Getting ready for festiva italia - cleaned out the rear brakes (o/s shoes were sticky so glad I did this) repainted the drums, fitted a new distributor and starter motor, changed the gearbox oil and cured a few leaks. Front king pins are gonna get greased next and then I'm good to go :)

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Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: Gadge on September 10, 2017, 09:47:37 PM
This weekend I decided to tackle a job that's been on the "to do" list since I first picked up Luigi way back in February 2013. Indeed it was the first job I ever did to it when I got it home. It's something a lot of 126 owners have had to deal with at some point and that job is replacing the headlining. Mine, like many others had the dreaded "saggy lining" and I remember very well driving the 150 odd miles with the roof lining draped over my head (hence why I ripped it all out as soon as I got home). It's always been a job I wanted to do in time and I decided this weekend it was time. I already had the materials ready just needed to do it so here's what I did :)

First I started with my board which was hard board the sort you buy from a DIY store with a shiny surface one side and a textured surface on the other (this choice of board would bite me in the bum later)

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This was then trimmed down to size which took some time as it involved cutting pieces off and inserting it into the car until I got my desired size (I ended up cutting too much off the back so had to glue some back on DOH!) this was a fiddle going in and out the car every 2 mins and in retrospect a cardboard template would've been better but I don't have cardboard that big so I did it the hard way.

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Next job was to lay out the lining material. This very satisfying job just involved cutting it approximately the right size and spraying a six inch wide strip of contact adhesive on the board and just rolled on the material spraying another six inches until I reach the other end. The edges were folded over and tidied up.

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I had some foam knocking about so I stuck some on the topside (Roof side) to help with sound deadening. I rolled the edges over on the sides of the material to help it follow the contours of the roof line edge inside the car.

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Once it was all fitted it looked great however here's were my choice of board bit me in the bum. It fits in lovely at the front as it slides in a gap just above the sun visors but at the rear it's only held in with three screws and with no support in the middle which meant the weight of the board made it hang down just above the rear seats :(

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although it still looked better than bare metal I just wasn't happy so after some thought the solution was simple. I cut two small pieces of wood and shaped them and covered them in headlining material from an offcut and slid them in at the edges just above the doors and they did the trick in raising the board up and supporting it :thumbup

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I was on a roll so I looked at tidying the inside of the boot lid up. These three holes always looked like there should have been something covering them only there never was so..... 

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I cut these out of some offcut hardboard, stuck some offcut headlining on one side then wrapped the whole lot up in black vinyl I acquired off the internet for a fiver and glued it all up at the back.

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Two holes were drilled in the corners and they then screwed into place. Job done and to top it off I fitted a pull handle - in red to match the seat belts - to the right.

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Very happy with the result and I'm hoping for slightly quieter drive now the headlining finally in :thumbup

Title: Re: luigi II
Post by: stuey on September 11, 2017, 11:02:45 PM
Some nice work there I dont have a headliner (or an interior) but do intend on doing something to cover the holes in the rear lid like you've done. tidy! :D
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on October 08, 2017, 09:12:37 PM
What better way to spend your weekend than laying on a concrete floor under sealing your car  :P Winter is on its way so I thought it’s high time I gave luigi a dose of under seal. I chose the hamirite underseal brand as it had a good write up. It only took about 2 hours to do with a brush and was strangely satisfying once done and will hopefully keep rust at bay for a few years

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With the car up on axle stands I took the opportunity to repaint the engine. So off came the rear panel. Alternator, distributor, crank pulley and exhaust.... the latter was particularly bad as there was a small crack in the box and the high temp exhaust wrap had acted as a sponge and started the rot the pipe.

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Luckily I got there in time. so cut it all off and wire brushed down I sprayed some E-TECH very high temp paint (good for 600c) the crack was dealt with by welding it up. While I was there I also fitted an aluminium heat shield by welding a bracket on the side of the down pipes.

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All done :) had to drive the car for half an hour to cure the paint but now looks great :thumbup

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Also fitted the steelies back on for winter...... I’ve kinda missed them :D

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Flying Carpet on October 08, 2017, 10:31:51 PM
Good catch with that exhaust Gadge. It would be a shame to alter that lovely exhaust note with a dirty great hole!

I'd heard about that exhaust wrap creating a nice warm and damp corrosive microclimate, so in the end decided against fitting it to the headers on my other classic - not before buying a roll of it though! (http://club126uk.co.uk/forum/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/rolleyes.gif)

That heat shield looks the mutt's wotsits btw!
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on October 09, 2017, 07:12:00 AM
Yes my advice would be NOT to use it. In hindsight its location right by the rear wheel doesn't help matters plus the fact that I don't drive it enough so damp sets in. It may be a different story on a FWD car that gets used a lot. I did find another fault with that wrap and that it literally fell apart as I tried to unwrap it. I think the tie wraps were the only thing holding it all together!  :-X never mind lives and learns eh  ;D
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: drcdb15 on October 10, 2017, 11:45:08 PM
Re the exhaust wrap, it's a good idea NOT to fit it, but not for the reasons you think. Exhaust wrapping started in NASCAR events some years ago, and there's all these theories about keeping the exhaust zone hotter so as to more efficiently scavenge exhaust gasses and raise engine power... sorry, but it seems the truth is a little more mundane. Apparently the exhausts were NOT wrapped to keep the exhaust hotter, but to keep other engine bay components COOLER.

Paradoxically, it was soon found that preventing the exhaust pipe from cooling as it was designed to do lead to premature heat stress failure of the pipes and of the pipe/flange weld joints. Now in racing this was acceptable as the engine was checked out after every race, but in normal everyday driving you don't do this, and anyway you don't want the expense of replacing your exhaust prematurely.

So the crack is nothing to do with too much moisture/rust on the outside, but too much localised heat on the INside.

So for normal non-race use exhaust wrap is BAD NEWS, don't do it folks!
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on October 11, 2017, 07:20:31 AM
Yes I’ll go along with that although the reason I fitted it was to try and reduce engine bay temps plus it helped me to not get scolded if I was working in that area - which it was only marginally better at lol

My real concern was the fact that water would soak into it presumably when it sat in my damp garage and would just eat away at the metal. I don’t use the car much so it wasn’t getting hot enough regularly to boil it away. The crack was on the bracket I thin this was down to vibrations. So to repeat the above advice DONT DO IT! save your money and buy some good heat gloves instead! :P
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on October 14, 2017, 06:36:47 PM
Red Oktober day at the Coventry transport museum :)

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: jsj on November 05, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
I have been reading your thread from the beginning last week. What a nice project, absolutely love what you did to the car ! Well documented for the less experienced 126 drivers as well !

Keep up the good job ! Very inspiring
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on November 13, 2017, 09:07:56 AM
Thank you Jsj :thumbup

It’s been a busy weekend for both Luigi and I as I had a late invite to display him on the Fiat motor club GB stand at the NEC classic car motor show and couldn’t say no so down we went on Thursday to set up and I spent the who 3 days there meeting and greeting again. There was so much interest and attention!

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I went for a utilitarian look for the show so on went the steel wheels and the early Mk1 steering wheel for that basic look and yellow continental style bulbs to complete it all.

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It was a fun 3 days and by Sunday evening I was about knackered but it seems the excitement was all too much for Luigi too as halfway home he packed up on the M6 with a broken points wire :P ...... it was a very long and cold wait for the AA but a temporary fix saw me home! Another successful AA fix! :D

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: stuey on November 13, 2017, 10:58:19 AM
Glad to see you got home safe this pic turned up on retrorides as luigi was getting some love on there, i pointed them here to see the full story.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4518/37600521564_856453d650_b.jpg)
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on November 13, 2017, 04:31:26 PM
Thanks stuey I might sign myself up to retrorides it looks a good site :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: wsmitwil on November 13, 2017, 10:14:11 PM
I knew it was you, I was there Sunday looking very carefully at your car was probably there half an hour looking at the car think it's the first time I've seen you, sad to know how the weekend ended

You made my day THANK YOU

great to see loades of people taking an interest in a 126

Saw about 7 fiat 500s we need to do a fiat 126 stand at the NEC
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on November 18, 2017, 04:18:56 PM
New set of points fitted so with last weeks bad luck firmly behind me I met up with some other like minded fiat fans at the super sausage cafe in Northamptonshire. The weather was bad but worth the drive :thumbup

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: drcdb15 on November 18, 2017, 07:32:24 PM
New set of points fitted so with last weeks bad luck firmly behind me I met up with some other like minded fiat fans at the super sausage cafe in Northamptonshire. The weather was bad but worth the drive :thumbup

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/25B9185B-E720-4A70-A985-A06C91F541EF_zpsjf5wmk2o.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/25B9185B-E720-4A70-A985-A06C91F541EF_zpsjf5wmk2o.jpg.html)

You know, Gadge, your car really does have the most charming cheeky little grin... you really ought to get some eyelashes for the headlights, would set it off a treat and make the world a better place at this dreary time of year  ;)
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on February 11, 2018, 03:37:30 PM
Spring is nearly here! So I’ve had a busy weekend preparing Luigi for this year’s 126 fun. In went a new set of plugs, leads, a brand new coil and a new fuel filter but what I was really looking forward to was fitting my new bumper bars/nudge bars (not actually sure what their official name is) but the pictures below them in all their glory :) I’ve been after a set of these for ages so when they turned up on a well known auction site I had to have them! New old stock as well :D

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The rears are actually upside down as if I had them the correct way up the larger part would interfere with the rear fog and reverse lamps. I nearly had some better outside photos but it started to rain so I’ll take some better ones another day
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on February 15, 2018, 06:30:35 PM
The servicing continued today. I got home from work early so decided to do an oil change. I had already cleaned the oil filter out when I had the rear panel off last weekend fitting those nudge bars so it all made sense. At the last oil change I fitted one of these GOLD MAGNETIC sump plugs.

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These nifty plugs feature what they say is the most powerful grade of magnet for there size to capture any metal particles swimming around in the sump. They’re not cheap - about £18 - but it’s well worth it. The amount of crud picked up by this plug after only about 1500 Miles was astounding!

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Doing an oil change on a 126 is a very satisfying job to do given how simple it is to carry out but this change was a little different. Last Year I happened to find by chance an unopened 5 litre tin (metal tin! Like in the old days!) of ESSO super lube 15w40 multi grade oil at an auto jumble. The oils specifications were one grade better than  that quoted in the handbook. He only wanted a tenner so I bought it. I later did an internet search on oil specs and worked out that that particular oil spec upgraded the older one around the early 90’s so this tin and its contents was made not long after my car was built so I’m now using an oil blend that’s the closest to what they used in their day - free from modern day additives which have replaced some of the older additives that have since been made obsolete due to environmental reasons......... I love the tin too! :D

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2.2 litres in which means I have another ESSO superlube oil change (straight from the tin like good ole days) in the bank for another day. After 15 minute run on tick over the oil was lovely and clear :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: stuey on February 15, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
nice little idea that I have purchased one for my supercharged engine! love the overriders they look cool!
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on February 17, 2018, 07:15:07 PM
And so the oil changes continue! This time it was on the gearbox. No fancy retro old oil tin this time though. The reason for the change was that a while ago i drained and refilled with proper 80w90 gear oil but was never happy with the feel of the gear change so have opted for good old 20w50 engine oil by comma. So out with the ramps.

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Also the first proper look at those nudge bars. I think they look great!

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And finally! Ready for the show season I’ve bought these super cool vintage suitcases and covered them in retro travel stickers and a retro radio! Awesome :D

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: DEYAN IYI on February 24, 2018, 03:32:10 PM
Thank you for the great car, Gadge!

It is inspirational for the whole community. :)
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on March 30, 2018, 09:53:34 AM
I’ve been brave and bought a rear spoiler for Luigi. It’s really for the air cooled versions but you can just about get away with it on the BIS. Quite pleased with it but would probably look better with the alloys on.

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: stuey on March 30, 2018, 12:22:21 PM
I’ve been waiting for you to post that since I saw it on Facebook where the hell did you get that? I really want one! Look awesome btw 😎
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on March 30, 2018, 12:40:08 PM
I got from eBay - £38 so didn’t break the bank either. There’s one on there now stuey :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on May 06, 2018, 07:39:56 AM
Took Luigi down to Brooklands Autoitalia yesterday and he ran beautifully! :D  despite the warm temperatures of the day he didn’t miss a beat and only a stone chip to the front panel dampened what turned out to be a fantastic packed out weekend in the sun.

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(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/gadge1/Mobile%20Uploads/D2D02F2F-DAB2-4DCC-A787-E9873683E4F1_zpsfwrkzpt5.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gadge1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/D2D02F2F-DAB2-4DCC-A787-E9873683E4F1_zpsfwrkzpt5.jpg.html)

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There must have been nearly 1500 cars from Fiats to Ferraris and everything in between but Luigi was the only fully complete 126 there which I was surprised at (the other 126 was great mate Dom booths but it was a rolling shell) so really was quite unique

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on August 02, 2018, 09:54:09 PM
I’ve not been happy with my front suspension just lately. I’ve been noticing that the ride has been lumpy, it pulls to one side and when I drive over a bump or manhole cover it jumps and bounces all over the place. The last problem could potentially be dangerous so it was time for a rebuild and some modifications. A bit of research into 126 front suspension revealed that if you lower it, it causes the top arm to pull the top of the wheel in every time it goes over a bump which in turn pivots the whole hub on the steering arm making it turn the wheel slightly. This was demonstrated beautifully on a YouTube clip when someone simply bounced on the front of a lowered 126 wing and watching the wheel move in and out. To get round this problem I needed a pair of these

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These bolt on to where the top arm would normally bolt to and the arm then bolts to the studs effectively moving the arms fixing points 2 inches higher. This returns the arm to more of a  factory setting. I was curious so hastily fitted them but found that they didn’t quite fit nicely. It must be a BIS thing but I found the bodywork around the bumpstop got in the way of it fitting flushly. Also by returning the arm to a factory setting you get more positive camber. I also discovered that the top arm bushes were knackered and the pads weren’t sitting squarely in the calliper.

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Despite the poor fit the road test was a great success and the handling was greatly improved. The poor fit and the other issues were bothering me though so after a bit of thought I decided to rebuild the whole front suspension and modify the new brackets so they fit better.

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Parts back from the powder coaters

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To get a more neutral camber I machined the mounting pins on a miller.....

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......and then shims will be added later to balance each side out. The brackets needed to be ground on the edges so the arm doesn’t fowl it (not pictured)

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And the end result. New bushes fitted discs skimmed and I painted the calipers red. Over the next few days I adjusted the camber using a magnetic camber gauge and using the above shins I got the camber to 0.25 of a degree of each side which I set at about 0.75 positive. Next up the tracking

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My first check showed it was at 8mm toe in (factory setting is 2-6mm). After two more goes I got it to 35’ (minutes) which is about 4mm so happy with that. If you are thinking of doing this then it’s well worth doing if you don’t mind having to rework a few things. The end result is much improved handling and a better (and safer!) ride :)












Title: Re: luigi
Post by: nunohflima on August 09, 2018, 11:45:23 AM
Hi Gadge!
Congrats for the project!!
I am from Portugal and I have a 126 of 74 "and wanted to convert from 4x190 to 4x98. Is it possible to use the braking of the fiat 127 from the first series? If not, what parts of what car did you use to do the conversion?
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on August 09, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
Hi it probably is possible to use 127 calipers if you have the right adapter plate. I used a cinquecento/seicento/Punto calliper set up which is widely available and is what most people use when doing this conversion. You can either buy the whole kit with calipers, discs and adapter plates or just the adapter plates and just source some good second hand calipers yourself :thumbup
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: 126Simon on August 09, 2018, 01:45:55 PM
Just read this from start to finish your car looks fantastic!!

I love those steel wheels, are they standard Bis wheels or something different?

Simon
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: nunohflima on August 09, 2018, 01:53:15 PM
If i use the cinquecento/seicento/Punto calliper set up is it just fitting or is it necessary to adapt? What are adapter plates? Are steering knuckle? I know the pieces, but in Portuguese, in English it is more complicated to understand the pieces ... my 126 is from the first series, I do not know if to make the conversion makes difference from the second series. I still do not have any parts to apply, I wanted to know what I need to know and what model to buy later. But I do not know what car is best to arrange to make the conversion and the exact parts that are needed.
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on August 09, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
These are all the parts you need. The adapter plates are needed to bolt the calipers too. These adapters should fit your series 1 car. To fit the adapter plate you need to remove the drum and the back plate then the adapter plates will fit onto the hub (where the backplate was) then the calliper will bolt onto the adapter plate.

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: nunohflima on August 09, 2018, 08:17:54 PM
And where did you get these adapter plates? Are they only needed for front braking? The rest of the used parts were of which car?
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on August 09, 2018, 09:33:34 PM
I got them from eBay. Rear disc conversions work on the same principal - by that I mean using adapter plates made for the rear using rear calipers from a punto hgt. Everything in that picture is all you need no other parts needed, you can even use the hoses.
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: nunohflima on August 10, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
Thanks a lot for the help! And good luck with your 126! 👍🏼
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on August 21, 2018, 09:55:17 AM
Fun day out at Festival Italia on Sunday. There were only 3 126s there so one of the rarer Italian machines at the show but people loved it. Despite luigis poor running he got me there and back ok (just!). I’m convinced the issue is down to an air leak somewhere but can’t locate it. The only thing to do is remove the carb and manifold and work my way forward.

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: DeVilleChris on August 21, 2018, 02:29:22 PM
Saw your photos on Instgram Gadge. The car looks well.  :good:
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: 1973/126 on August 21, 2018, 02:56:52 PM
 Looks just as good in real life as it does in the photos 8)
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on August 21, 2018, 09:04:02 PM
Thank you guys he did well to get me there and ok. He did two 2 and a half hour stints at 60 mph so he was worked hard. He's a bit poorly at the moment but I'm hoping for qui fix so hopefully he'll be back on the road soon anough  ;)
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on September 27, 2018, 09:34:19 PM
Last show of the year was a trip to tramways a museum dedicated to the preservation of trams. Well worth a visit.

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on January 05, 2019, 02:11:35 PM
I have been one busy bee over this festive period. It all started in mid November when I thought about yet another audio upgrade. If you’ve read this extensive thread about my car you’ll have noticed I’ve installed around 4 different head units in this car over the years but still I haven’t been totally satisfied. Two speakers ended up being four then it wasn’t powerful enough then when I did find one half the display wouldn’t work or the radio wouldn’t tune properly. All these units were of course second hand as I specifically wanted an old school pioneer (had to have the old PIONEER logo on it). The last one was great however I spent a lot of the 2018 car journeys listening to smash hits 96 on cassette as the radio was great at holding on to radio 2.

2019 however is going to be different! I’ve spent the last 8 weeks giving Luigi the biggest audio and electrical upgrade in his 31 year history. Out with the old and in with.... er, well the old again but this time I’ve managed to source what would’ve been the pinnacle in car stereos in the mid 1990s - a PIONEER KEH-P8200RDS. At around £400 over 20 years ago this unit would’ve looked more at home in a Maxpower feature car BMW than a humble 126 and I didn’t stop there.

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To give the tunes a bit more welly I bough new NOS pioneer speakers for the front (I snapped a terminal on one of the old ones) and a retro old school amp for the rears.

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And STILL there’s more! The “new” head unit has a plug on the back for a CD changer but sadly I have no where to fit a bulky CD changer but fortunately PIONEER made a gizmo that plugs into said plug which enables you to play music from an iPod. I bought one off eBay new for around £40 so I now have over 2000 songs to listen to through amplified speakers which I can now play through this head unit giving me the retro head unit look with all the benefits of a modern iPod which rather handily I installed into the ashtray :thumbup . All this plus a USB socket in the glove tray  was all plumbed in properly with another fuse box near the original one as the original wiring just wasn’t suitable for all the extra equipment being used.

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I even managed to fit a hands free steering wheel control system by fixing the remote control to the spokes of the wheel using a little bolt screwed through the back of the controller. It can be unscrewed in seconds!

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And still the work didn’t stop. When fitting the speakers in the rear parcel shelf it cracked because it was so brittle- in fact the whole thing just started to crumble! So I built a new parcel shelf out of MDF and hardboard then covered it in speaker box cloth. Alot better and strong plus also neater. Just got to bring on the sunshine now so I can get my elbow out of the window :D

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Xylaquin on January 05, 2019, 02:54:11 PM
now the big question is... will it hide the loud engine of a 126!
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on January 05, 2019, 03:27:15 PM
Now THAT is the question and tomorrow I get to find out ;D
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on January 06, 2019, 03:52:35 PM
The first show of the year already for Luigi! The Sunday scramble at Bicester Heritage. This is the first time I’ve been to this event and I was expecting maybe 60 odd cars. In the end literally 100s turned up! Everything from yank tanks to Ferrari’s and a whole lot in between. It was fantastic! And only cost me a fiver as Luigi was registered before 1990. There doing one again in April and I HIGHLY recommend going it was simply brilliant. :D

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The people love Luigi ;D

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Yoshimisumi on January 12, 2019, 12:07:14 PM
Great work Gadgets, putting us all to shame once again.

I'm hoping to be at the next Sunday Scramble so we'll try organise it a little closer to the time.

Josh

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on January 12, 2019, 01:50:31 PM
Thank you yoshi and yes definitely orginise something sooner. I was the only 126 there I think so would be good to represent them more. For me it's a definate must! I thought it was a great day out  :D
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Amateb8 on January 12, 2019, 06:35:37 PM
Please count me in!
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on January 13, 2019, 05:35:52 PM
Absolutely! I’ll get it up in the events section a few weeks before :thumbup

In the mean time last weeks run to Bicester highlighted that I had a leak from the radiator. On my bis I had a plastic bleed screw on the top of the rad which is unusual as all the others I have encountered have all been a metal 13mm bolt. Needless to say it was weeping and the moment I turned it, it snapped DOH! So today’s job was sorting that. So out with the rad and luckily I had a spare 13mm nut from an old rad had previously kept. It turned out not to be a wasted day as I fitted another cooling fan bought from last years NEC motor show which was about an inch bigger and has curved fins so will better cool the engine. I also took the opportunity to fit my stiffer sports engine mounting spring and polyurethane bushes. Their not technically for the bis model they in fact fit a 126p but seemingly it all fits nonetheless even though they are very different to look at. I haven’t road tested it yet but no doubt it’ll give more vibrations but hopefully less engine wobble on drive take up.

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: 126Simon on February 02, 2019, 09:44:18 AM
I went to the previous one but missed January's, hopefully see you there in April your car looks fantastic!

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on March 05, 2019, 08:44:22 PM
Dug these out of the garage the other day. They’ve been in wheel bags since October 2017 so I decided to fit them for this year’s use (well until I pull my finger out and paint my x19 speedlines).

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I thought they looked a little plain the last time they were on so I’ve painted the centres gloss black.

Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on March 25, 2019, 06:02:26 PM
Ahhhh I’ve missed these wheels  :D black centres were a good idea I think

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: DeVilleChris on March 25, 2019, 07:56:11 PM
Saw that on insta, looks good! :D
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on May 05, 2019, 10:30:37 PM
Had a great day out at the Autoitalia brooklands show. Luigi performed faultlessly doing the 2 hour drive each way without missing a beat! :thumbup  out of the 1000 plus cars on show that day there were only one other 126 there - a very tidy red aircooled - which must mean that the 126 is rarer than some of the more exotic cars on show :P

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Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gordan on May 06, 2019, 05:06:25 PM
Looks great m8, an inspiration to us all  8)
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on May 09, 2019, 08:28:24 AM
Thank you Gordon. Still getting attention after all these years :D
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: andyzeetec on May 09, 2019, 12:40:39 PM
Looking good, very clean and nice touch with wheels giving it that sophisticated look.  :good:
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gordan on May 09, 2019, 03:34:04 PM
Are those rear light lenses diy or did you find them somewhere?
all i can find are totally clear ones...
Title: Re: luigi
Post by: Gadge on May 09, 2019, 05:45:35 PM
They were a German eBay purchase Gordon had them a few years mind you  :thumbup