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PaulB:
I don't want to get into some daft debate about god queen and country, but why do car clubs insist on using Union Flags all the time? Both the 500 and 126 club have a big one plastered on their car stickers.
A lot of people might not want this flag on their car. Love it or loath it, it carries many meanings. For example, for many people in Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Cornwall (and for those areas where the BNP are quite active) it means something very different than for people living in the Home Counties.
Thanks
ChrisRLewis:
I think the main reason for using the union jack is that it's easily recognized. The same cannot be said about the other flags you have mentioned because they are more local and not known worldwide.
slater:
Its the uk fiat 126 club so they have got a uk flag on the logo!
No ones forcing you to put it on your car.
PaulB:
That's all true, and for many people, its a mighty fine flag. I also understand that it is a UK-wide club etc, and that no one is forcing anyone else to do anything. I also appreciate that a whole load of stickers have probably just been printed... I was just thinking that whist I'm sure many 126 owners might want to promote and show their support for the club with a sticker on their car, some might be put off by the Union Flag as, like I said, for some its a bit loaded with connotations or just isn't something they'd be having on their car for the reasons I gave earlier, among others. For a lot of people, its not about being anti-English/British etc, its just to do with local aspirations and the historical connotations of the flag (the "Celtic fringe" (Wales, Scotland, N.Ireland and Cornwall) being a good example). Does it need a flag at all?
Just a thought...
I really, REALLY don't want to fire up some crazy nationalist/royalist/republican debate! just thinking about practicalities! :)
Chris Lakin:
Hi Paul thank you for your contribution, I designed that logo, in Photoshop. I'm proud to be British hence the (Union Flag) when I designed that logo, I can tell you now I had no intentions of inciting racism or any kind of prejudice. If your an 'ethnic Minority' I hope you understand how some of us like to conserve our historical origins rather than to quash them like the rest of this country, I do get quite disturbed by what is said, by people like yourself. We are British and our flag is a union jack, therefore I will use it to depict out nationality, like if we where a Welsh club I would use a welsh flag, and so forth. The only connotations assigned to the flag are your own; I will stand firm against political correctness to do away with our flag.
I hope you will join the club and thank you for raising the issue in the discussion. Ps. you get a free quality embroidered t-shirt when you join, which does not include that logo.
Kindest regards
Chris Lakin
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