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Fiat 126 Chat => Tuning & Customising 126 Models => Topic started by: 126dave on September 23, 2006, 07:20:34 PM

Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on September 23, 2006, 07:20:34 PM
hi all.........just a thought.........does anyone have a pair of these on the shelf??.mine have self destructed..........buzbomb off the road again........

only nanni have them i've found?!....and im waiting for their return mail.

i guess i've more chance of finding chrome wheel nuts/ashtray on here tho eh?!  :lol:
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: bis13 on September 23, 2006, 10:45:49 PM
sorry dave the only nuts i have are hairy....
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Chris Lakin on September 23, 2006, 10:56:38 PM
haha, youre still alive then Mick!  :lol:

hows everything?

Chris
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: bis13 on September 24, 2006, 07:51:12 PM
well since i went and bought a smart car i thought it would be wrong to use this site anymore.....ha ha     no i am now a vampire and only come out at night , still doing twelves but only one more week to do before i get back to normal hours . then i can get on with resurecting a good ol 5hitter!
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on September 28, 2006, 10:05:12 PM
well,pirelli soft mounts seem nigh unobtainable...........the buzzbomb off the road for the forseable future.pushed to the back of the workshop as i post.......i've tried everywhere.........and now have given up
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: hudsonhenry on September 28, 2006, 10:44:51 PM
Dave

Is this the part? My twin dellortos had two soft mounts joined together but I think these ones work in pairs.

http://www.500mania.it/english/prodotti.php?pageNum_rs_prodotti=1&idcat=15&totalRows_rs_prodotti=11

Art code: M018
Elastic spacer
For Ø 40/40 carburettor

You have hit one of the problems of twin chokes on the aircooled, the carbs stick out a long way and the vibration soon does for the soft mounts – I'm not sure about what you can do to avoid it in the future.

Nigel
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on September 29, 2006, 07:37:41 AM
thats the parts nigel.........however,they want bank transfer of funds=£35.00+postage of 40 euro+ the parts :shock: ......im just not prepared to pay that much.
they will not take credit card or pop in the normal signed for post.

all ''normal'' suppliers seem to just stock the 'misab' style,too solid methinks....i can see the carb mounts cracking with those :shock:
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 02, 2006, 06:13:35 PM
got some,nanni came through,bluddy pricey :shock:  but wat to do?......so im re engineering the whole sheebang now :roll: ............
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: bis13 on October 04, 2006, 04:27:10 PM
see all that "i am done talk" knew you could nt give it all up! good on ya!
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 15, 2006, 04:41:35 PM
well,carb on/carb off.............made a great top tin replacement to take the new linkage,and added a new version of the carb support id made,this one has a mini cotton reel rubber mount,only problem is-first one lasted 70 odd miles,second one failed today at 12 miles......... :roll:

i think im gna make somthin out of a valve spring or something next............
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Chris Lakin on October 15, 2006, 04:49:18 PM
dave you laughed when i suggested a spring!!! whats changed your mind?

we need some pics! :lol:

regards

Chris
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 15, 2006, 07:58:25 PM
hey chris,did i?.....sorry if i did,anyway,im just in from the workshop with the prototype,using a bis inner valve spring cut down and  two sleeved valve spring top hats to cage it.......gna fab it up at work to moz......... :roll:

apart from the 40 dcoe's desire to part company with the motor,and a tendency for it to spit foamed fuel out of the bowl vent,its all going rather well................................ :wink: the 12 miles i achieved today were to the sound of the weber induction roar and the howl of my twin pulling 6k thro the big bore sport exhaust......magic................  :twisted:
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 17, 2006, 06:54:30 PM
ok........the inner valve spring idea looked fab......but,was not up to the job at all....the vibrations just overcame the spring.......anyhoo......i've now fab'd up a bis rear engine mount spring in its place......lets see how this goes!  :roll:
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Chris Lakin on October 17, 2006, 07:05:55 PM
yer the engine valve spring, was probably too rigid, the engine mount sounds better.


will you be using the engin mount rubbers too?

regards

Chris
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 17, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
no chris,the valve spring too soft...........believe it or not!
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Chris Lakin on October 17, 2006, 10:09:04 PM
oh right that surprised me, keep going! will find somthing spot on eventualy hopefully with this mount.

Chris
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 18, 2006, 06:57:21 PM
mmnn...well,bis mount kind-off works,but the alloy plate i fitted as a top panel is resonating,so,im laminating this to a 9mm malaysian ply panel............dont larf,remember mosquito airplanes??? timber/alloy and ply with two merlins nailed on...........good enough for 633 squadron=good enough for me!! :cool:
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Chris Lakin on October 18, 2006, 07:19:42 PM
haha, its getting a bit wartime this, dave did you know apparently the 126 aircooled engine is based on an airplane engine, just cut in half?

Chris
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 19, 2006, 07:45:28 PM
fookin hell chris.....glad im not gna fly in that..............
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: stuey on October 20, 2006, 04:26:43 PM
is nearly half a vdub engine and they have been known to appear in planes....
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Chris Lakin on October 20, 2006, 05:15:36 PM
haha dave the ww2 survival rate in a 126 powered plane wouldnt be very good  :lol: imagine a bis engine! would be hard to change the headgasket during the first sortie  :lol:  :lol:

Stuey do you know anyone who has ever put a vw engine in a 126? Ive heard its been done but never seen it.

regards

Chris
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: stuey on October 20, 2006, 06:36:11 PM
im sure ive seen one some where in my enourmous (car :) ) magazine collection ill have a dig....

ive got a great 126 brochure i need to scan in too...
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: dajwid on October 20, 2006, 09:05:24 PM
Trabant engines are used for those little fold up planes. So I don't see why a 126 wouldn't.
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on October 21, 2006, 09:49:15 AM
ok guys,road tested last night........still holding together,carb is know firmly attacthed to the motor!! less vibrating=improved fueling etc.
still a tad rich tho.see my other post about plugs

so the laminated idea is working so far,coupled with the complete spring/rubber bushes from an aircooled (the bis one was too high) the carb is mounted to this via a custom bracket and the central bolt gives full adjustment for the angle of the carb,so not putting any strain on the softmounts..........lets see how this goes............... :roll:
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Chris Lakin on October 22, 2006, 08:32:17 PM
(http://www.dropshots.com/photos/73614/20061022/b_121201.jpg)

This is the final version i hope of the troublesome carb mount,its running well and holding together,but.....i have not painted or otherwise finished it, as im kind off expecting trouble again..........


Daves carb mount

Posted byC.Lakin
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on November 04, 2006, 10:29:02 PM
well.update,carb mount doing ok,rich running was down to a damaged needle valve damper spring..= flooding carb....complete item renewed from 'fastcars',,,great guy,new weber part just 3.00£.i went down a size too,1.50mm from 1.75mm........
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Pete126 on November 05, 2006, 12:47:22 AM
glad to here its backup and running dave, you seem to be in F1 terratory at the moment
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on November 05, 2006, 08:30:56 AM
thanks pete..if anyone does go down the route i've taken i can sure save them some time!!!!!......

how did the spring cut go?
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on February 03, 2007, 01:51:59 PM
update on the rubber spacers for the weber 40 carb,nanni stock them,as does turbo 1 sport,but nanni now also stock alloy ones with o ring inserts,i've just ordered some to see how they go.......the rubber ones seem ok at the mo,but i've never been keen on them.
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: Tomasz on February 05, 2007, 04:04:04 PM
What do you guys think to this.  How much extra power would this give me/would it fit without problems?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FIAT-500-DELLORTO-40-DHLA-CONVERSION-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33550QQihZ016QQitemZ260079804174QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
Title: 40mm pirelli spacers.40 DCOE to ALQUATI
Post by: 126dave on February 05, 2007, 05:06:13 PM
hi ya,well,you need a sport cam to go with this,and sport exhaust,also,the inlet manifold shown is for the panda twin port head,so you need that as well,(cut/replace studs etc) then you need to change the top tin of your motor to fit the panda head and accept a decent weber/dellorto throttle linkage..............then youll need to fab a decent carb mount to stop it falling off.........................................

if your serious buy it,then i'll give all the help i can,............ :D