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126 EV?
« on: July 21, 2009, 08:56:06 AM »
As they arnt usually used for long distance driving has anyone considered a EV project?

I reakon a 15-20hp motor would do the trick and a boot lined with batterys. Nice small light car to push around, should be good for a few hours between charges, could probably strip everything off a forklift truck to use!

I looked into this a while ago, I'm sure I've seen a panda advertised on ebay before.

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 09:25:31 AM »
A lad from my capitol did this, and became quite famous actually, dont know what the engine is from, but the car does over 70km/h and has an autonomy of round 40kilometers, which is just enough to get to the city and back.
here are two videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUgXOcaqiyw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2trgIm3xcKM

and a forum link with pictures:
http://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=430989
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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 12:47:57 PM »
My dad was thinkng aloud about this. His idea was to include a diesel genny in the front boot, as an extra trickle charger.

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 01:34:03 PM »
I'm restoring a Giardiniera for my wife, and really would like to electrify it. There's enough space for all the stuff. But unfortunately I do not know anything from electric propulsion.
I'm thinking of two wheel hub motors without gearbox. Brake energy recovery, solar panel instead of sunroof, and a little stationary diesel for emergency, if batt is low, to drive a generator. Laptop batteries seem to be the best at the time. Doors and hoods have to be made from carbon, rear and side windows from Makralon. Lighting with LED-tecnology. And so on...

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 08:34:51 PM »
Tomasz on this forum has one, or maybe his dad.  also someone posted a video of an autotest one a while back.  There are some books about building your own EV on amazon.

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2009, 11:39:44 AM »
Yeah, its my girlfriends dad who has one.  It has not seen much use and i think it needs new batteries.  I am not sure what motor it has but i will have a look today. I have driven it, its very odd but it goes quite well.

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 05:53:55 AM »
Hi Everyone!
Just found this site today...
Tomasz I would be interested in some photos and specifications of the electric 126.
I have converted a FSM Niki to an EV. 
The specifications are 8 x Optima D34 agm batteries, Curtis 1231C motor controller, ADCK91-4003 Series wound motor.
I have a couple of videos on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVb-tP30VMU&feature=channel

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 08:56:11 PM »
Theres a chap Called Greg Fordyce In Gallashiels Scotland.
He has been running an elec volvo 440 for 2-3 years I think. When I met him the 126 was still in the early stages of lead acid batteries, but I understand it has come on along way since then:
http://www.evalbum.com/1529
He let me drive the 126 around town, it's very odd... The car is so quiet you can hear all the noises usually blocked out by the engine! but it was very easy to drive, and the build is more than achievable buy most 126 owners.
He's very approachable, and if you are interested in pursuing this I suggest you contact him, he has the advantage of several electric cars under his belt and was more than happy to pass on any lessons he's learned along the way
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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 11:52:27 PM »
i am dreaming of putting electicity in my peglatron for months but dont have money, garage, time....
Sorry for bad english!

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 09:37:56 AM »
With enough time, determination and scavenging it is possible to build an electric car for a low cost. The Forkenswift is a good example.  Here is a link to the Forkenswift http://ecomodder.com/blog/a-672-electric-car/
It uses an electric motor and charger from a forklift and motor controller from a golf cart. 

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 09:50:07 PM »
Havent read through all the posts, but have a look at these guys - http://www.cloudelectric.com/ also have a look at Green Motor Sport and NEDRA.

And I don't know if they still advertise but there used to be a charity or something likes selling an EV kit based on a 126 on Ebay - infact I just found their link http://www.arcvillage.org/our_electric_car.htm

And I have copied a response from www.lmcltd.net below from when I enquired about a EV conversion a while back (if you want copies of the PDF's they emailed me I can forward them on if you send me your email address):...

Ian,

This is certainly possible and you could remove the engine and marry the motor directly to the gearbox and with a simple controller with throttle linkage you can create a working solution however a normal gearbox is very inefficient so it would probably take between 2 to 3KW of energy just to move the vehicle if however you removed all and simply connected the motor to the rear wheel then the power required to move the car would be around 500watts problem here though is you would need 2 motors 1 for each rear wheel.

I have attached a selection of data for your reference but would suggest the LEM-200-D127 with the AXE 7245 controller working on 72v depending on battery and drive set up you should be able to achieve 40mph with a 40 range as a quick guide.

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2009, 10:07:10 PM »
my friend bought the DVD by arcvillage about electric car conversion. In the video they cut out the section where they remove the bis engine, and it cuts back to the main guy looking haggered and out of breath sometime later with engine removed. It turns out they spent somewhere in the region of a few hours trying to remove the engine with a lump hammer before discovering the correct bolts to remove it!
It's a good guide to show how this conversion can be done cheap, but these guys do come across as cowboys, and its worth remembering that a bit more planning can give a much better result.
Greg Fordyce has done a good but cheap job  and is now on Lithium ion batteries which makes his overall weight only slightly greater than the original weight
http://www.evalbum.com/1529
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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2009, 10:22:45 PM »
I might be being cynical here but costwise this kind of conversion can't be cheap surely? And with a top speed of 40ish with a range of maybe about 40-50ish miles with a recharge time of what 8-10 hours? OK, so it might be cheaper per mile post conversion but just remember what Clarkson said:
"And where does the electricity come from, Boris?"
I just can't see electricity ever being a viable alternative to conventional fuels until the source of the electricity can be renewable (solar/wind/hydrogen cells) and the speed/range/refill time matches that of an ordinary car. It seems to me like a lot of faff for no real gain.

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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2009, 11:11:43 PM »
I might be being cynical here but costwise this kind of conversion can't be cheap surely? And with a top speed of 40ish with a range of maybe about 40-50ish miles with a recharge time of what 8-10 hours? OK, so it might be cheaper per mile post conversion but just remember what Clarkson said:
"And where does the electricity come from, Boris?"
I just can't see electricity ever being a viable alternative to conventional fuels until the source of the electricity can be renewable (solar/wind/hydrogen cells) and the speed/range/refill time matches that of an ordinary car. It seems to me like a lot of faff for no real gain.

You're right. Conversion isn't cheap, top speed is lame, recharge time is poor. AS it stands, electric cars are no replacement for petrol, but they have to be used differently to merit their worth.
They are good for a commute car, charge at night and charge while at work. You can have a better car for longer journeys or you can tow a generator which can give you approx 100 mpg. The top speed can be up to 70mph without spending silly money.
NO maintenance on the engine at all.
The electricity comes from fossil fuel burning plants, but they create electricity far more efficiently than a petrol engine uses fuel. Clarkson has a point, but as usual fails to back it up with fact.
Ideally you need one small electric car to get to work and back, and a normal car to go on long journeys, THEN you start to save money and justify an electric car
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Re: 126 EV?
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2011, 11:59:50 AM »
Hi,

I have contacted Greg in Galashiels for an EV conversion quote for my BIS.  I am looking for 55mph / 100 mile range. 

If anyone on the forum went to Greg for this conversion I would be grateful for some feedback on the experience.  However as it stands, subject to the quote being reasonable and no heavily negative feedback, I shall go for it.

Cheers,

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