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dajwid

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« on: September 24, 2008, 07:34:14 PM »
have 126 prices died?
Has demand dropped?
Were people getting too greedy?

A few Bis gone unsold. An aircooled broken for parts as didn't sell, another aircooled tonight unsold with zero bids.

Good time to buy me thinks :shock:

(And my wife taking me to look at a Volvo estate she wants)

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 08:31:41 PM »
DK about the current prices of the 126 (over here their price is pretty much the same for lets say 10 years now...  :???: ) but im sure were talking about a certain future classic, as there are less and less of them on the roads every day... (which is a good and a bad thing actually... :roll: )
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 08:45:30 PM »
Polish prices steady going up a little if anything.

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 11:05:48 PM »
I think you are right about prices dajwid.

I always keep an eye on ebay, I get an alert for 126 under 'cars' and 'classic cars'. No analysis of actual figures here, but I'm sure a Bis with a long MOT a while ago might get to £900 or so, but £600 seems to be more like it now.

High starting prices just might get the starting price (?), if they are lucky, and high reserves die before the end and go unsold, and not that much interest/money in cars without MOT or needing work. Even cars that do 'sell' sometimes seem to re-appear a few weeks later.

That's probably  big generalisation and there are other factors like the location of the cars (I suppose a car within reach of the M1, M6, A1, M25, M62 etc has a much bigger potential market than one in Aberdeen, or Cornwall). Maybe it's just the time of year with more interest in Spring and early Summer, and once people are back from their holidays and back to work, gets darker, looking forward to Christmas....etc - it's a bit like buying houses - you wait til next year.


Anyway that's just what I think I've seen on ebay recently, but might be wrong. I'd like to know what other people think

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 11:16:00 PM »
in my opinion the prices went stupid and have now just returned to about the normal prices they are actually worth , sorry folks but thats what all the trade book prices state too . theres a downturn in used car prices anyway so if your car isnt running and mot d you wont sell because its a gamble and theres enough runners out there to supply peoples needs. so timothy you need to finish it or let it rust in peace or sell for peanuts ..but then again you could hijack this thread as i have given you licence ...timothy has a car for sale didnt you know... or used to be a car ...could be a car ...with a little work...lol

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2008, 07:50:01 AM »
I was in the middle of selling a chrome bumper Air Cooled 126 when this thread started & I found it quite interesting but wanted to complete the deal before I made any comment. There is definately a regional thing about the 126 at the moment. I had never advertised the car before but only ever mentioned it to people on this & other Fiat sites that expressed an interest in a 126. Most people lived a good distance from the London area so no one ever came to see the car so not wanting it to spend another winter outdoors I put it on eBay for the 1st time. During the 10 day auction the listing had 1150 hits & 60 watchers on the car. More than I have ever had on any other item in 5 years ebaying. So for whatever reason the interest was massive. I knew from the e-mails I received that some of the interest was from Fiat 500 owners who wanted the engine & gearbox, in fact I was offered almost twice what I was prepared to accept for the car just for those parts. So it is a sad fact of life that the 126 is still an endangered species. I was determined to protect the car from predators & I think I upset a few in the process, even other 126 owners who wanted me to break it for parts, often wanting bits that you can get new from the specialist suppliers.
I have been following the market in these cars for 20 years or more & I think that it is only in the last 2 years or so that the 126 has got the recognition that it always deserved. It is obvious though that there are still 126 Wannabes out there that are stuck in some kind of timewarp where "Grannie's" old , well maintained , motor can still be picked up for £50. I think that this website has done a lot to raise the status of these cars & like it or not with the evolution of the 126 into the halls of "classicdom" comes the increases in value & costs.
There are some fantastic restorations being shown on this site now & it is great to see. I am sure that our old car will be appearing here soon so good luck to the new owner.  :D

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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 04:43:11 PM »
I guess it's harder for you folks in GB to get parts for an affordable price (at least from what i've read). Specialists probably put a higher price on things, cos demand is low, and they need to make a profit. Here in Eastern Europe it's much easier. Parts are cheap as chips for the 126, though there are little knick knacks that you can't get new, but have to go looking around. Still, there's probably truckloads of parts for the 126's in Poland (after all, the youngest 126 is still only 8 yrs old.. ).
But this is the main problem for cars/cmpanies that have gone out of production. Aftermarket parts aren't always good quality. For e.g good quality Trabant parts are hard to get, cos the factory ceased in 1990, and these after market stuff don't always fit. On the other hand, as my friend has experienced with his 1985 VW Golf 1.3, you can still get factory parts, but they cost an arm and a leg (even at the scrapyard. What is with VW parts?)
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 08:30:00 PM »
Now thats more like it:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190258892158

Sold for £102

I am always amazed to see buy now prices for £2500, I am really happy prices are creeping down, An aircooled recently unsold with £200 reserve.
The car was totally rotten and being sold as 'easy repair'.

PS: well done dubmiester25 looks like a tidy Bis once the head is sorted.

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 07:26:25 PM »
That car looked like a good buy at that price , £102 has got to be value for money. OK so it was a Bis & it came with the usual curse & I have been there believe me . But come on , I spend that much or more on the weekly shop and who ever the new owner is , they will probably put work into the car and ensure its survival. Let's face it , one more 126 back on the road means a whole lot of smiles  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2013, 07:26:09 AM »
Bringing back an old post:-

I don't remember the last time there were so many 126s on Ebay.

15 at the moment, many over valued, one guy selling Four 126s for £450 pounds each, still on Polish plates, but that must be a bargain.

A couple of very tatty Bis that they want silly money for. A very tidy aircoooled that struggled and didn't make £1000. Then there are the mad cars, with crazy prices bid.

I am always amazed, why not just buy a £1000
 and just spend £2000 on stickers, body work, mechanical and have it what ever spec you want.

Looks like prices are down, A pre-spring sale. or may be a Mick said, in my opinion the prices went stupid and have now just returned to about the normal prices they are actually worth ,.



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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2013, 08:41:58 AM »
Been watching prices for a while, I reckon  3.500 is sensible for a concours car, 2.500for a good one that could do with improvement, 1.500 for  something solid and fairly reliable.

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2013, 09:32:29 AM »

This one looks a bit more special and I think the price is right

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1991-FIAT-126-BIS-VERY-LIGHT-RESTO-PROJECT-L-H-DRIVE-FRESH-ITALIAN-IMPORT-/171012682587?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27d126735b

BIS up shame about the wheel covers
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2013, 09:45:59 AM »
No mention of MOT, and an 1800 mile car needing welding, with a water leak, and crash damage (there is barely a straight panel on it!!) sounds a bit odd. The ad doesn't mention the dented rear panel either. And look how polished the accelerator is! And the reflector is rusty in the n/s headlight.
The odometer numbers look to line up well, could be a speedo from another car though, or was replaced 1800 miles ago with a new item.
There is too much to make me suspicious about this.
Lhd, dented everywhere, no MOT, uncertain mileage, should probably be up to £750 absolute tops in my opinion.

Marc

And why the wheel trims? It suggests the wheel have been off a few times. And if you look at the wheels they are not good. They are worse than my 32000 mile wheels.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2013, 09:58:53 AM »

It's not to bad seeing it came from Italy, a 126 aircooled for sale in Italy not too long ago not much 126 left and he still wanted €1200

I dident look at the pictures for long enough though it is a bit worse than I thought it was so may be it is abit pricy but it is an up
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2013, 10:04:07 AM »
Oh yeah :o Didn't see the "Up" sticker, it was hiding behind a crease :D, must be worth loads more with some random vinyl on it ;D

With Milan being 800 miles away, and southern Italy 1518 miles away I suspect the journey from Italy was quite easy, being in a container or on a trailer. Unless it had only done 300-1000 miles beforehand there is no way it drove and has still only done 1800 miles.

Might be an idea to ask the seller how far he has driven it, with no tax, MOT or plates, to know it is an excellent driver!

Just sent this to the seller.

Hello, I am quite interested, had one before, would like another.
You don't mention if there is any MOT, also how far have you driven it to test?
Any photos of the bits that need welding?
Did you get it to top speed? And what was it? That is a good indicator of how good the engine is.
And is it still on the original stomil tyres? They tend to look good then delaminate when they get old, found that out myself!!!
Cheers

Marc

Having trouble sending my email address, so lets try this. showmethecheese then @ then hotmail then . then com  hope it works.
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